Outgoing? David Brooks

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

If the headline is true, and Spurs pay £80m for that pair, they'll have wanked the money away. Neither are the level of player that they need to be recruiting if they want to trouble the top 3 of the prem or the latter stage of the CL again in the near future.

 

[Ricky]

Callum Wilson has done incredibly well to get anywhere near that level considering he's torn both knee ligaments. Great effort.

 

[BladeInIreland]

Essentially Brooks allowed us to sign Hogan and Madine. Personally think Brooks would have done better, and we would have a bigger asset. Whereas the loan players have returned to there parent clubs.

Hopefully any new owners will see the flaws in this.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

Essentially Brooks allowed us to sign Hogan and Madine. Personally think Brooks would have done better, and we would have a bigger asset. Whereas the loan players have returned to there parent clubs.

Hopefully any new owners will see the flaws in this.

We would have done better than being promoted to the highest division possible ,how exactly could Brooks have bettered that ?

 

[Westran]

Essentially Brooks allowed us to sign Hogan and Madine. Personally think Brooks would have done better, and we would have a bigger asset. Whereas the loan players have returned to there parent clubs.

Hopefully any new owners will see the flaws in this.

And Egan and Norwood, we would have been light weight without those players and other teams would have exploited it. But hey, at least we would have had a 15m player instead of playing in the prem

 

[Mouth of the South]

Essentially Brooks allowed us to sign Hogan and Madine. Personally think Brooks would have done better, and we would have a bigger asset. Whereas the loan players have returned to there parent clubs.

Hopefully any new owners will see the flaws in this.

Egan certainly wouldn't have been signed had Brooks not been sold. Imho Egan saved Utd more points last season than Brooks would have won.

 

[BladeInIreland]

And Egan and Norwood, we would have been light weight without those players and other teams would have exploited it. But hey, at least we would have had a 15m player instead of playing in the prem

Egan certainly wouldn't have been signed had Brooks not been sold. Imho Egan saved Utd more points last season than Brooks would have won.

Egan was signed without the Brooks money according to Wilder.

 

[BladeInIreland]

We would have done better than being promoted to the highest division possible ,how exactly could Brooks have bettered that ?

I said Brooks would have done better than Madine and Hogan.

We would have done better business wise how I said and possibly finished 1st.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

I said Brooks would have done better than Madine and Hogan.

We would have done better business wise how I said and possibly finished 1st.

Brooks was in the team the year before when we finished tenth ,Hogan and madine were in the team when we finished 2nd

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Essentially Brooks allowed us to sign Hogan and Madine. Personally think Brooks would have done better, and we would have a bigger asset. Whereas the loan players have returned to there parent clubs.

Hopefully any new owners will see the flaws in this.

Of all the signings, wage payments, loans, running costs of the club, you've singled out those two and determined that the Brooks money was only used for that? Where did you get that information?

 

[BladeInIreland]

Brooks was in the team the year before when we finished tenth ,Hogan and madine were in the team when we finished 2nd

That’s a silly way to judge who the better players are. Sharp was in a mid table league one team.

 

[BladeInIreland]

Of all the signings, wage payments, loans, running costs of the club, you've singled out those two and determined that the Brooks money was only used for that? Where did you get that information?

Talking about players, and what his money allowed us to bring in. People are quick to say that he funded the Norwood and Egan transfers. According to Wilder he didn’t.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

That’s a silly way to judge who the better players are. Sharp was in a mid table league one team.

You started making silly hypothetical
Claims and now you don't want to play that game ,ok .let's deal with reality then .Brooks left and he left because he wanted to go

Also the money wilder spent last season was from.sell on clauses for walker and Maguire and then the Brooks money ,what was left over after the financial holes were plugged was used for transfers ,so in short if Brooks didn't go
No Egan
No Norwood
No madine
No Hogan
No Dowell

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Talking about players, and what his money allowed us to bring in. People are quick to say that he funded the Norwood and Egan transfers. According to Wilder he didn’t.

What about the running costs of the club? If they aren't met and are shouldered by the owners, they will ultimately reduce the size of the budget available to Wilder, if not immediately, it'll happen eventuallly. A more comfortable cash flow also eases money tensions and if Wilder was given a freer hand when looking for loans in the final push he had more chance of getting the players he wanted. We don't know for sure but there may have been more money available to him than he used.
I think it's too easy to allocate funds to one signing or another, the finances of the club are all linked.
Besides, as I've said before, it's immaterial, because he wanted to leave and Wilder has said he only wants players that want to be at the club.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

You started making silly hypothetical
Claims and now you don't want to play that game ,ok .let's deal with reality then .Brooks left and he left because he wanted to go

Also the money wilder spent last season was from.sell on clauses for walker and Maguire and then the Brooks money ,what was left over after the financial holes were plugged was used for transfers ,so in short if Brooks didn't go
No Egan
No Norwood
No madine
No Hogan
No Dowell

No promotion

 

[andy m]

Talking about players, and what his money allowed us to bring in. People are quick to say that he funded the Norwood and Egan transfers. According to Wilder he didn’t.

I think Wilder was trying to deflect pressure from the owners. They put nothing in last season. Brooks sale funded the purchases.

 

[BladeInIreland]

You started making silly hypothetical
Claims and now you don't want to play that game ,ok .let's deal with reality then .Brooks left and he left because he wanted to go

Also the money wilder spent last season was from.sell on clauses for walker and Maguire and then the Brooks money ,what was left over after the financial holes were plugged was used for transfers ,so in short if Brooks didn't go
No Egan
No Norwood
No madine
No Hogan
No Dowell

I was talking hypothetical because I don’t have access to parallel universes. What you said wasn’t hypothetical, it was just a illogical way of judging a players worth in comparison to another. But ok.

By all means, let Wilder know he is mistaken.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Not angry, just disappointed. But understand the reasons.

As I've said earlier in the thread, I don't think Wilder would've had funds to spend £6m on Egan and Norwood.

If only we had a magic ball and could see the tangent we went on in the parallel universe where we kept him.

In that parallel universe,the first game after turning down a move to Bournemouth,he could have suffered a serious injury

 

[BladeInIreland]

I think Wilder was trying to deflect pressure from the owners. They put nothing in last season. Brooks sale funded the purchases.

That was my initial thoughts, but I was assured by the same people on here that our owners backed Wilder with a decent budget. So what he says must be true. If we ignore the court case.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

I was talking hypothetical because I don’t have access to parallel universes. What you said wasn’t hypothetical, it was just a illogical way of judging a players worth in comparison to another. But ok.

By all means, let Wilder know he is mistaken.

You started this to and fro by stating that Brooks would have done better than two players who got the team promoted to the richest league in sport .i just assumed you did have use of parallel universe's, in fact I assumed you had just arrived from.one

 

[BladeInIreland]

You started this to and fro by stating that Brooks would have done better than two players who got the team promoted to the richest league in sport .i just assumed you did have use of parallel universe's, in fact I assumed you had just arrived from.one

That’s a perfectly reasonable opinion to arrive on, in a place where your supposed to talk about opinions.

 

[Peaktrade]

Great, for the first time this club is making money left right and centre with no clear direction of ownership to steer us to a stable future...

 

[Th!stledo]

The 'ifs' and 'buts' about the path we have taken will always be open to debate. But the fact is we will play Premier League football next season.
For me it is not that Brooks was sold but for how much. Hopefully our future bargaining ability and resolve has been more finely honed and we stop being the mugs we have been in the past.

 

[Harrisblade]

Great, for the first time this club is making money left right and centre with no clear direction of ownership to steer us to a stable future...

We haven't made any money yet, the court case will be over in a couple of weeks and CW and backroom team already have a budget to work with.
Calm dow dear!

 

[Peaktrade]

We haven't made any money yet, the court case will be over in a couple of weeks and CW and backroom team already have a budget to work with.
Calm dow dear!

Well we have on one side an owner who wants rid of us and be sold to a yank Mormon.. on the other a bog roll Prince with shallow pockets...

The club will be making money and of course there's investment.. basic business of investment and improvement. My point is, which ever way the court goes the scenarios above seems apparent.

 

[nopigfansintown]

I'd rather be going up with him in our squad. It's not an either or scenario.

 

[super_pig]

he wouldn’t really fit into our system if we’re being absolutely honest with ourselves

 

[Groucho Blade]

I'd rather be going up with him in our squad. It's not an either or scenario.

Sorry, but I think you’ll find it definitely is an either or scenario

 

[nopigfansintown]

Sorry, but I think you’ll find it definitely is an either or scenario

You have no evidence for that assertion. It's all hypothetical

 

[Niceguyeddie]

You have no evidence for that assertion. It's all hypothetical

It didn't happen so it's a hypothesis