Danny Kelly wants the Blades promoted

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So if Segers was paid off to throw the Everton game which of our players were paid off to throw the Chelsea game?

It was in our hands to stay up, can’t blame anyone else for it we just sound bitter.

I get more wound up though with people blaming Warnock, we got 38 points that season and would have been enough to keep us up 9 out of 10 seasons.
 

It was in our hands to stay up, can’t blame anyone else for it we just sound bitter.

I get more wound up though with people blaming Warnock, we got 38 points that season and would have been enough to keep us up 9 out of 10 seasons.

He changed formation away at villa and we slumped to a 3-0 defeat against a shit team. If we lose by 1 we stay up. Simple.
 
He changed formation away at villa and we slumped to a 3-0 defeat against a shit team. If we lose by 1 we stay up. Simple.

We could have lost 5-0 if he played 2 up front that day, we just don’t know. 38 points with that team was a decent return and would have kept us up most seasons. To sack him after that was madness.
 
We could have lost 5-0 if he played 2 up front that day, we just don’t know. 38 points with that team was a decent return and would have kept us up most seasons. To sack him after that was madness.

Or 5-4, we'd never know.
 
I was in my first year of uni in Liverpool when we went down in 94. My halls of residence were on Scotland Road just down from Goodison. I still remember standing on the balcony 10 floors up watching those Everton tw*ts' celebration procession outside. Car horns honking, flags out everywhere.

The beer and weed didn't help; I felt like my heart had been ripped out.
 
They were Away at Blackburn the league runners up. Who had won their previous six home games.

Drew Nil - Nil

It’s the Blades way
The ref missed a blatant handball by Dave Linighan in the final 15 mins. If he had spotted it then Shearer would have taken the penalty
 
The real kicker in the 06-07 Premier League season, was Liverpool playing their second team at Fulham. Fulham won 1-0, and stayed up by 1 point. If Liverpool had won that game like they should have, we would have stayed up.

Only 2 players who played in the Champions league game vs Chelsea, which was the game before Fulham, played against Fulham:
Team vs Chelsea - Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Agger, Riise, Pennant (Alonso 78), Gerrard, Mascherano (Fowler 118), Zenden, Kuyt, Crouch (Bellamy 106)
Team vs Fulham - Reina, Arbeloa, Paletta, Hyypia, Insua (Finnan 75), Pennant (El Zhar 65), Alonso, Sissoko, Gonzalez (Kewell 77), Fowler, Bellamy

Lets also not forget Tevez scoring the winner at Old Trafford for West Ham. If West Ham had lost that game, they would have been below us on goal difference!
 
Lets also not forget Tevez scoring the winner at Old Trafford for West Ham. If West Ham had lost that game, they would have been below us on goal difference!

And let’s not forget that Man U then signed him for about £2-3m despite lots of noise about how the fee would show that West Ham owned him and there was no outside influences. I bet the agent got more than West Ham did. His next transfer was for more than 10x that.

Edit: Wiki has his move to Man U as a loan.... from MSI the ‘third party’. Then two years later his transfer fee was £47m!
 
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The ref missed a blatant handball by Dave Linighan in the final 15 mins. If he had spotted it then Shearer would have taken the penalty

Ipswich lost 9-0 at Old Trafford the following year. Commenting on this result Shearer said something like "there are no easy games in this division...except Ipswich home", which made my blood boil, given that his team couldn't win that fixture when it mattered to us the season before.
 
The real kicker in the 06-07 Premier League season, was Liverpool playing their second team at Fulham. Fulham won 1-0, and stayed up by 1 point. If Liverpool had won that game like they should have, we would have stayed up.

Only 2 players who played in the Champions league game vs Chelsea, which was the game before Fulham, played against Fulham:
Team vs Chelsea - Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Agger, Riise, Pennant (Alonso 78), Gerrard, Mascherano (Fowler 118), Zenden, Kuyt, Crouch (Bellamy 106)
Team vs Fulham - Reina, Arbeloa, Paletta, Hyypia, Insua (Finnan 75), Pennant (El Zhar 65), Alonso, Sissoko, Gonzalez (Kewell 77), Fowler, Bellamy

Lets also not forget Tevez scoring the winner at Old Trafford for West Ham. If West Ham had lost that game, they would have been below us on goal difference!

To be fair in this........
The PL needed to give West Ham a seriously suitable punishment.
I expected them to receive a points deduction but they were basically already down, so it wouldn’t have been a punishment.
The PL took the unusual step, knowing they were basically already relegated, to give them a massive fine instead.
At the time no clubs were strongly complaining. The PL justified the massive record fine by saying the lack of a fine gives WH a fighting chance of staying up, saying it would be unfair on their fans to instantly relegate them.
The truth was that West Ham were already practically down and needed a miracle to stay up.

But amazingly West Ham performed a miracle winning 8 out their last 10 league matches (I think)
Even winning their last match against top of the table Man United away at Old Trafford (which was another miracle).
 
that's true for many teams tbf ;)


Yes, all fans want to keep their best player, but it never seems to have the same devastating effect on them as selling one player has on us

David Brooks is the only single sale I can remember that hasn't effected us to badly
 
Regarding the Brian Deane sale............

If the same situation was to occur today, with our current board and manager, and also being in the premier league and we had an offer for Deane.

Would the board sanction the sale?

I dont think they would? It would be suicidal.
To be fair mate, I don’t think a 50 year old Brian Deane would be the difference between relegation and staying up this time!
 
Baker and Kelly together were side splitting. See Baker is doing a weekly podcast with Lineker. Not sure it will be the same. The 90s Quickly Kevin will he score is a superb podcast and if you liked Baker and Kelly you will love that also.

I once had to park up listening to them. A caller rang in to say that he’d played against somebody with a false leg. That set them off on a long hypothetical discussion about what would happen if the leg fell off and fouled an opponent.

They then imagined the game taking place on Hackney Marshes where there are lots of pitches and the leg coming off and fouling a player on an adjacent pitch and which referee would produce the yellow card.

That bow tie story is even better, never heard that one. I listen to Danny Baker on Saturday mornings sometimes and he seems to attract funny calls/callers and has the kind of mind that goes off at odd tangents and makes the calls even better.
 

And let’s not forget that Man U then signed him for about £2-3m despite lots of noise about how the fee would show that West Ham owned him and there was no outside influences. I bet the agent got more than West Ham did. His next transfer was for more than 10x that.

Edit: Wiki has his move to Man U as a loan.... from MSI the ‘third party’. Then two years later his transfer fee was £47m!
The most suspicious thing about that for me was a picture of tevez out on some end of season do with the man yoo players ,it was well before they played west ham and always stuck in my head as he was wearing a cream suit and I was thinking "what the fuck "?
Seems like I'm the only person in the universe who saw it
 
The most suspicious thing about that for me was a picture of tevez out on some end of season do with the man yoo players ,it was well before they played west ham and always stuck in my head as he was wearing a cream suit and I was thinking "what the fuck "?
Seems like I'm the only person in the universe who saw it

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We were chasing a winner at Chelsea when a point would have been enough.

Jostein Flo mentioned this in an interview long ago, he wasn't particulary impressed with Dave's approach when leading at Stamford bridge. We gave Chelsea every opportunity to counter that day and they did. Trivia: did you know Chelsea was Shell island or as the vikings named it Shells ey, Hackney was Haakon's ey( island)
 
Jostein Flo mentioned this in an interview long ago, he wasn't particulary impressed with Dave's approach when leading at Stamford bridge. We gave Chelsea every opportunity to counter that day and they did. Trivia: did you know Chelsea was Shell island or as the vikings named it Shells ey, Hackney was Haakon's ey( island)


Carl Bradshaw said the same.

For Gods sake don't mention the Vikings on here...... :)
 
I once had to park up listening to them. A caller rang in to say that he’d played against somebody with a false leg. That set them off on a long hypothetical discussion about what would happen if the leg fell off and fouled an opponent.

They then imagined the game taking place on Hackney Marshes where there are lots of pitches and the leg coming off and fouling a player on an adjacent pitch and which referee would produce the yellow card.

That bow tie story is even better, never heard that one. I listen to Danny Baker on Saturday mornings sometimes and he seems to attract funny calls/callers and has the kind of mind that goes off at odd tangents and makes the calls even better.
I remember a story Baker told about a one armed player who had a penalty awarded against him when the ball hit his dangling empty sleeve!
 
To be fair in this........
The PL needed to give West Ham a seriously suitable punishment.
I expected them to receive a points deduction but they were basically already down, so it wouldn’t have been a punishment.
The PL took the unusual step, knowing they were basically already relegated, to give them a massive fine instead.
At the time no clubs were strongly complaining. The PL justified the massive record fine by saying the lack of a fine gives WH a fighting chance of staying up, saying it would be unfair on their fans to instantly relegate them.
The truth was that West Ham were already practically down and needed a miracle to stay up.

But amazingly West Ham performed a miracle winning 8 out their last 10 league matches (I think)
Even winning their last match against top of the table Man United away at Old Trafford (which was another miracle).
And to be fair, the weakened Man U team absolutely battered them and did everything but score. It wasn’t like they played walking football against them. It was a freak result.
 
I’m going against the grain here ,
Firstly agree totally about our relegation regarding the Chelsea game
But totally disagree about our relegation concerning the West Ham / Tevez affair
Were just looking for a convenient scapegoat to cover our own / clubs inadequacys in that season
Score one of the penos v Blackburn, we got 2 ffs , turn 0-0 into a win , score peno v Chelsea at home we might have drawn 2-2 , we got the peno when it was 0-0 btw , that’s 4 points dropped at the end of the season it wouldn’t have mattered about gd , or the shit tactics at Villa
Take care of our own business, and we would have been ok
 
It’s not the selling of the best players that is the issue, all clubs of our level will sell their best players.

For us it’s the timing., Deane, Deane again with Fjortoft, Beattie, Blackman, even Brooks.

That then combined with not replacing them, although it could be argued we’ve used the Brooks money to buy Norwood but it’s not a direct replacement.

You don’t have to directly replace a substitute who was mostly unremarkable when given a start.
 

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