Danny Kelly wants the Blades promoted

[Torrix1889]

When asked who he wants promoted, Danny Kelly says

"Sheffield United. Look, we all know, English football, as far as I can see is by and large very very honest, there's very little corruption in it. Yet, when one or two times things have been a bit odd, the team that's been affected has been Sheffield United. Indeed their relegations, as their fans will tell you, should never have been aloud to stand. So if Chris Wilder can get them up then that would be fantastic"

Always liked him!

Bit harsh to call Mark Stein odd....what was odd was Phil Jagielka catching the ball in his own area..

 

[Torrix1889]

Well if we're being fair minded about it all i'd like to see
Middlesborough up in second for the time they were deducted points leading to a relegation for being unable to fulfil a fixture when they didn't have enough players.
Leeds nowhere near the top 6 for multiple admins. (Yeah I know they were punished but not enough IMO).
And the rest can fight for a place in the top 6.

And Leicester stripped of the Premier League title and relegated for not getting a points deduction when they should have!

 

[Sean Thornton]

Which is the conspiracy - Fashanu's handball or ref's ignoring of it?

If it's the handball, then why on Earth would the ref have missed it? If it's the referee decision, why did he give the first one? If they were colluding (i.e. "I'll handle it, but you don't give the penalty), wouldn't it have been easier to just not handball it in the first place? Or were they both being dodgy, just in different directions?

Why would they collude over a handball that wasn't intended to be given?

 

[Champagneblade]

I think the sad thing about that season, is that we weren’t actually that bad a side. Certainly not the 3rd worst in the division. In retrospect we’d probably peaked the season before in 14th, the old guard were losing their effectiveness and alarms bells should’ve rung in the boardroom. If you look at our best 11, the names conjure up good memories. Competent, decent at the back, but unfortunately with little goal threat. Selling Deane was unforgivable, not investing all the transfer monies and more so, to reinforce the squad, doubly so. But then again, we had a circus upstairs at that time didn’t we?

We sold Deane, who as you say the previous season, was basically winning a header, chasing down his own flick ons, crossing the ball into the box to a team mate and then picking up the rebound. We’d become reliant on his goals (14) and set up play & so had Littlejohn (8). It was a decent partnership to be honest. Big man/small man. We sold Deane and bought Flo, and went with him (10), AL (3), Cork (3) & Davison (0). In the NY, too little too late, we signed Blake (5). £3m in for Deane, £400k out for Flo & £300k out for Blake. I appreciate other players came in & out, but I think we had a £2m transfer profit. In retrospect another season of Deane and AL, plus the addition of Flo & Blake and the phasing out of Cork, Scott & Davison, would’ve kept us up with ease. Basically a £700k outlay. The same price that Wednesday paid for Guy ‘fucking’ Whittingham or 50% of what they paid for Mark Bright. But no, we chance it, get relegated and missed out on the big sky money. Penny wise, pound foolish, eh?

You just hope somehow we’ve learnt our lesson because if ever there is going to be a Carpe Diem moment it’s going to be JTW2019.

 

[Geordie Blade]

Why would they collude over a handball that wasn't intended to be given?

That was my point.

 

[Topplayersleave]

There is a lot of truth in this. I have no doubt shady things went on at Goodison Park and obviously West Ham should have been punished with a points deduction but on both occasions it shouldn't have been us who were the fall guys.

The relegation under Basset was always coming and as he said at the time "we played Russian Roulette one too many times". We simply couldn't survive with age old United trait of not building when in a position of strength and eventually selling your best player without adequately replacing him.

United have always been in a situation where the sale of ONE OR TWO PLAYERS would put us in trouble.
Russian Roulette is a very fair assessment of our activities over the last few decades

Even now some of our fans can't get their head around us needing a new striker when we've already got Sharp

 

[Revolution]

There is a lot of truth in this. I have no doubt shady things went on at Goodison Park and obviously West Ham should have been punished with a points deduction but on both occasions it shouldn't have been us who were the fall guys.

The relegation under Basset was always coming and as he said at the time "we played Russian Roulette one too many times". We simply couldn't survive with age old United trait of not building when in a position of strength and eventually selling your best player without adequately replacing him.

The exact quote was, from memory: "if you play Russian Roulette enough times eventually you're going to get the bullet"

 

[Harry's Game]

It’s not the selling of the best players that is the issue, all clubs of our level will sell their best players.

For us it’s the timing., Deane, Deane again with Fjortoft, Beattie, Blackman, even Brooks.

That then combined with not replacing them, although it could be argued we’ve used the Brooks money to buy Norwood but it’s not a direct replacement.

 

[Sean Thornton]

We were chasing a winner at Chelsea when a point would have been enough.

 

[Lil red rooster]

Always liked Danny Kelly too (and I generally find people talking about football pretty boring).

I remember the 90s show Under the Moon on Channel 4. The Friday night football show he did on BT Sport with Danny Baker was pretty much the only decent thing on that channel.

and this is the greatest conversation in human history...

Man alive thats sensational,so funny.

 

[super_pig]

jags was a decent player and nice lad by all accounts but why did he blatantly handle the ball vs wigan ?

 

[pesch the mini genius]

speaking of those 2 seasons , it's the hope that kills you!

Beating ( Newcastle?) 2-0 at home with Blake getting both and West Ham 3-0 with Tonges and Steads great strikes, both games near the end of these seasons
, it just felt we were going to be ok in both those seasons !

then despair .....

 

[grafikhaus]

As my dad used to say, 'Where there's money, there's fiddle.' Could it still be happening?

At least one club in ‘dirty’ money probe, says minister

AT LEAST one professional football club is under investigation for alleged money laundering, a Government minister said yesterday. Ben Wallace, security minister, told MPs that the sports industry ‘is as susceptible as anything else’ to being used to hide the source of ‘dirty’ money. At the Treasury Select Committee, Wallace admitted clubs could be vulnerable to crime and said authorities have not done enough to report suspicious activity. Asked by Labour MP John Mann how many professional football clubs have been deemed as requiring investigation, Wallace said: ‘I know of a professional football club or clubs under investigation. I couldn’t reveal how many and what they are. That is an operational matter.’ Pressed on numbers, Wallace added: ‘There are live investigations... to expand any more could threaten investigations. ‘The sports industry is as susceptible as anything else to dirty money being invested or their organisations being used as a way to launder money.’ He added that reporting suspicious activity should be made ‘by anyone’ and not just banks. He said ‘not enough’ had come from football authorities. A spokesman for the National Crime Agency said: ‘We do not routinely confirm or deny the existence of investigations.’ Football has long been regarded as being vulnerable to money laundering. In 2009, a report by the international Financial Action Task Force suggested that the sport could be targeted because it involves large sums crossing national borders, making the origins of the cash harder to trace. Earlier this month, authorities in Belgium raided a number of top-flight clubs and charged 19 people with offences linked to alleged money laundering and match-fixing.

Link

Oh please let it be them. Is 'Dirty' where the D-Taxis comes from?

 

[FinchleyBlade]

jags was a decent player and nice lad by all accounts but why did he blatantly handle the ball vs wigan ?

Please don't be one of those people who suggest he did it deliberately to get us relegated so he could get a move to a better premier league club. Its a ridiculous conspiracy theory. A player who had been with us since a teenager and was made captain.

 

[Bath Blade]

Well if we're being fair minded about it all i'd like to see
Middlesborough up in second for the time they were deducted points leading to a relegation for being unable to fulfil a fixture when they didn't have enough players.

They might not have had enough of the first team squad to put out a team, but they had more than enough reserves and youth players to play the match. You can't just postpone a match because your best players aren't available, and it was a catastrophic misjudgement which deservedly resulted in a points deduction, made all the funnier with hindsight because it was Bryan Robson in charge at the time.

 

[8lade]

They might not have had enough of the first team squad to put out a team, but they had more than enough reserves and youth players to play the match. You can't just postpone a match because your best players aren't available,

I was always under the impression that they could not put out a match day team, let alone a squad (thought they had something like 8 players available).
And a quick search reveals 23 players ill or injured, not sure what the allowable squad size was back then.

 

[BushBlade]

So if Segers was paid off to throw the Everton game which of our players were paid off to throw the Chelsea game?

 

[Fanny magnet]

Please don't be one of those people who suggest he did it deliberately to get us relegated so he could get a move to a better premier league club. Its a ridiculous conspiracy theory. A player who had been with us since a teenager and was made captain.

It's moronic and conveniently washes over the fact he set up the equaliser that day with a peach if a cross for stead

 

[Sean Thornton]

Please don't be one of those people who suggest he did it deliberately to get us relegated so he could get a move to a better premier league club. Its a ridiculous conspiracy theory.



A player who had been with us since a teenager and was made captain.

Just to play devils advicate, Peter Swan.

 

[Sikkim]

Here, have something depressing to watch.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

It's moronic and conveniently washes over the fact he set up the equaliser that day with a peach if a cross for stead

Makes the conspiracy even more subtle. Makes it look as if he's doing all he can to save us from relegation, then handles the ball deliberately. And he knew all along that Unsworth never misses a penalty at the Lane...And if Webber had scored instead of hitting the post, Jags would have planted a 30-yarder in his own net. Dangerous drivel. Have any key-board warriors got the courage to ask him to his face about it?

 

[Punk Blade]

They might not have had enough of the first team squad to put out a team, but they had more than enough reserves and youth players to play the match. You can't just postpone a match because your best players aren't available, and it was a catastrophic misjudgement which deservedly resulted in a points deduction, made all the funnier with hindsight because it was Bryan Robson in charge at the time.

I was going to post something similar. We can hardly claim the victim in Tevezgate and say Middlesbrough were hard done by. If Boro had been let off without a points deduction some other poor sods would have been relegated instead, and they would have been the ones stitched up.

 

[super_pig]

Please don't be one of those people who suggest he did it deliberately to get us relegated so he could get a move to a better premier league club. Its a ridiculous conspiracy theory. A player who had been with us since a teenager and was made captain.

i’m not .. that wasn’t my point
. i’d love to know what possesed him.. didn’t he make our equaliser?

 

[Kev Gee]

Regarding the Brian Deane sale............

If the same situation was to occur today, with our current board and manager, and also being in the premier league and we had an offer for Deane.

Would the board sanction the sale?

I dont think they would? It would be suicidal.

 

[Harry's Game]

So if Segers was paid off to throw the Everton game which of our players were paid off to throw the Chelsea game?

Ipswich would have gone down instead of us or Everton. It was about keeping Everton up not relegating us specifically, that’s were the bets were won.

 

[BushBlade]

Ipswich would have gone down instead of us or Everton. It was about keeping Everton up not relegating us specifically, that’s were the bets were won.

Were Ipswich playing Southampton? It’s a long time ago now and my memory isn’t what it was. I never expected it to fuck us up as much as it did. Fucking owners we’ve had, we’re like a twat magnet.

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

There’s also the Tottenham affair. Can’t remember the details but they faced a possible points deduction for the same offence Swindon were denied promotion to the Premier League and instead relegated one division (from memory) which if justice was served, would have saved us,

 

[Sheffsteel]

Were Ipswich playing Southampton? It’s a long time ago now and my memory isn’t what it was. I never expected it to fuck us up as much as it did. Fucking owners we’ve had, we’re like a twat magnet.

No, it’s worse than that. I’m sure Ipswich were away at 2nd in the table Blackburn Rovers (although the result meant nothing to Blackburn as they couldn’t finish top and couldn’t finish 3rd).

It’s was obvious Shearers Blackburn would beat relegation threatened Ipswich.
But incredibly massive underdogs Ipswich Town held on for a 0-0 draw.
I even remember their match finished about 3 minutes after ours.
So when the table showed we were in relegation place Blackburn were still doing loads of attacking in injury time and could have saved us, i was totally numb when we went down, I never expected it.

Unless my memory is playing tricks and I imagined it all.

 

[Harry's Game]

Were Ipswich playing Southampton? It’s a long time ago now and my memory isn’t what it was. I never expected it to fuck us up as much as it did. Fucking owners we’ve had, we’re like a twat magnet.

They were Away at Blackburn the league runners up. Who had won their previous six home games.

Drew Nil - Nil

It’s the Blades way

 

[Deadbat]

Man alive thats sensational,so funny.

Baker and Kelly together were side splitting. See Baker is doing a weekly podcast with Lineker. Not sure it will be the same. The 90s Quickly Kevin will he score is a superb podcast and if you liked Baker and Kelly you will love that also.