Cup matches?

[Matlock Blade]

Is Wilder treating matches against the teams near the bottom of the table like cup matches against lower league competition?

His selections against Hull, Portsmouth, and Luton have been awful, similar to the changes a manager would make in cup matches.

We have been fortunate to get 6 points from those 3 games. Luton could easily have been 2 or 3 goals up by half time yesterday, which would have made it even more difficult to come back after the substitutions.

Although Wilder has done well results wise so far, the idea of him managing us if we go up is quite concerning.

 

[Proper Blade]

If we do go up, I'd be far more concerned about the fact we would be competing against 19 other teams who have better players than us in every single position

 

[HeySethUTB]

Yeah because we won’t sign anyone and come straight back down, despite the 6 points our changed side isn’t good enough. FFS give it a rest. We’re top of the league

 

[Snowflake]

If we do go up, I'd be far more concerned about the fact we would be competing against 19 other teams who have better players than us in every single position

..at the moment ! We may buy some good ones ?

 

[crazyblade1889]

If we go up it should be thank you Chris and we look to someone who has the required experience to keep us up. Look at Forest under Cooper and now Nuno

 

[GymClassHero]

If we go up it should be thank you Chris and we look to someone who has the required experience to keep us up. Look at Forest under Cooper and now Nuno

Give it a rest mate. I've been critical of Chris lately but if he gets us up then he gets another crack at the Prem, simple as that.

 

[Jon Bon II]

Is Wilder treating matches against the teams near the bottom of the table like cup matches against lower league competition?

His selections against Hull, Portsmouth, and Luton have been awful, similar to the changes a manager would make in cup matches.

We have been fortunate to get 6 points from those 3 games. Luton could easily have been 2 or 3 goals up by half time yesterday, which would have made it even more difficult to come back after the substitutions.

Although Wilder has done well results wise so far, the idea of him managing us if we go up is quite concerning.

WYEDP? Not heard anyone else mention anything about poor team selection.

 

[sheff_blade90]

we need to rotate. players cant play 3 games a week & still be at the high standards.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

If we go up it should be thank you Chris and we look to someone who has the required experience to keep us up. Look at Forest under Cooper and now Nuno

No, leave Wilder to build the dynasty he's started, be heavily backed if we go up

 

[SwissBlade]

Is Wilder treating matches against the teams near the bottom of the table like cup matches against lower league competition?

No, quite simply. He’s managing a squad and has done so all season. We’ve still had a shocking bit of luck with 2 season ending injuries as well as others getting injuries which have been 4 weeks plus in many cases.

It’s a rough league for injuries and we have suffered with a smaller squad

But something is working as we’ve accumulated the most wins and points

 

[Bl4desutd]

Great……another post about Wilder…yes/no?

 

[dsr-burnley]

we need to rotate. players cant play 3 games a week & still be at the high standards.

Fortunately they don't have to play 3 matches per week. 5 league games in February, 5 league games in January, 6 league games in December - that's 1 match per weekend plus 3 midweek games.

 

[CrookesBlade]

If we go up it should be thank you Chris and we look to someone who has the required experience to keep us up. Look at Forest under Cooper and now Nuno

Cooper had a season and a half at Forest in the PL before they replaced him.

Teams just don’t sack their manager on promotion - I don’t know why some people are so obsessed with doing it. If we go up I’d like to think there will be a proper transfer policy and funds in place to give Wilder and co a proper crack at it.

 

[N20 Blade]

Cooper had a season and a half at Forest in the PL before they replaced him.

Teams just don’t sack their manager on promotion - I don’t know why some people are so obsessed with doing it. If we go up I’d like to think there will be a proper transfer policy and funds in place to give Wilder and co a proper crack at it.

Exactly. I'm not sure why this theory has gathered momentum recently. I can't think of an example of a promoted club sacking their manager before the first game of their next in the top flight. Which is hardly surprising either.

 

[Selly]

If we go up it should be thank you Chris and we look to someone who has the required experience to keep us up. Look at Forest under Cooper and now Nuno

So ideally we'd be looking for someone in the last 10 years who has taken a club up to the PL and then kept them up for at least 1 season????

 

[Bladezz]

Is Wilder treating matches against the teams near the bottom of the table like cup matches against lower league competition?

His selections against Hull, Portsmouth, and Luton have been awful, similar to the changes a manager would make in cup matches.

We have been fortunate to get 6 points from those 3 games. Luton could easily have been 2 or 3 goals up by half time yesterday, which would have made it even more difficult to come back after the substitutions.

Although Wilder has done well results wise so far, the idea of him managing us if we go up is quite concerning.

Another Wilder hater. Trying to cover it up.

On course for 100+ points, whilst having a huge net transfer profit all whilst playing the second youngest side (Don’t know if it still is), while blooding the youth team players in.

We have the odd fan concerned. Incredible.

 

[Bladezz]

If we go up it should be thank you Chris and we look to someone who has the required experience to keep us up. Look at Forest under Cooper and now Nuno

There’s about 5 members on this forum that just hate Wilder. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but some people are just using multiple accounts to make echo their nonsense.

 

[sheff_blade90]

Fortunately they don't have to play 3 matches per week. 5 league games in February, 5 league games in January, 6 league games in December - that's 1 match per weekend plus 3 midweek games.

since the derby. im looking at the fixtures. & id say we had 6 blocks of 3 games in a week

• Coventry Oxford Sunderland
• WBA Millwall Plymouth
• Cardiff Burnley West Brom
• Sunderland Watford Cardiff
• Norwich Swansea Hull
• Portsmouth Middlesbrough Luton

 

[sheff_blade90]

So ideally we'd be looking for someone in the last 10 years who has taken a club up to the PL and then kept them up for at least 1 season????

but where would you find such a person

 

[dsr-burnley]

since the derby. im looking at the fixtures. & id say we had 6 blocks of 3 games in a week

• Coventry Oxford Sunderland
• WBA Millwall Plymouth
• Cardiff Burnley West Brom
• Sunderland Watford Cardiff
• Norwich Swansea Hull
• Portsmouth Middlesbrough Luton

You're working on the basis that a week has two weekends? I really don't see that playing a match every Saturday can count as playing two games a week, let alone that playing Saturday-Thursday-Sunday counts as three games a week.

What you're saying is that there are 6 times in 4 months when the players have had to play a midweek game between two weekend games, and only 5 when they were all league games. They really ought to be fit enough for that.

 

[crazyblade1889]

So ideally we'd be looking for someone in the last 10 years who has taken a club up to the PL and then kept them up for at least 1 season????

Very unambitious to set your sights surviving just one season. We need a manager who has experience of signing premier league quality players and taking a club/s forward at that level. Shame Potter got snapped up by West Ham as he’d be ideal.

 

[crazyblade1889]

There’s about 5 members on this forum that just hate Wilder. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but some people are just using multiple accounts to make echo their nonsense.

I doubt anyone hates him. I think it’s more likely some people accept him for what he is - a good motivator of average players but tactically a bit lacking. Others think the sun shines out of his arse and believe that he’s the second coming of Jesus Christ.

 

[Selly]

What you're saying is that there are 6 times in 4 months when the players have had to play a midweek game between two weekend games, and only 5 when they were all league games. They really ought to be fit enough for that.

But it isn`t about whether they are fit enough to do it - as you say they are professionals and should be able to - its about whether they can play and maintain the same level of performance that is required to maintain a promotion push.

If rotating the squad allows them to play 2/3% better in the two remaining sets of three games where we have 3 games in the space of 7 days - then that might be the difference between a Wigan at home performance from Leeds, and a Forest at Home performance from us. (in 2018/19)

 

[sheff_blade90]

You're working on the basis that a week has two weekends? I really don't see that playing a match every Saturday can count as playing two games a week, let alone that playing Saturday-Thursday-Sunday counts as three games a week.

What you're saying is that there are 6 times in 4 months when the players have had to play a midweek game between two weekend games, and only 5 when they were all league games. They really ought to be fit enough for that.

ask anyone in football & that is called 3 games in week

yes i think they are capable & fit enough for that. but in the same way theres a reason why all 11 players dont play the full 120 mins in cup games & why fresh legs are brought on. football is avsquad game. the last few years this been a cornerstone of Guardiolas success because he makes sure that when others might be limping over the line. his team are peaking for march April & May

 

[Selly]

ask anyone in football & that is called 3 games in week

yes i think they are capable & fit enough for that. but in the same way theres a reason why all 11 players dont play the full 120 mins in cup games & why fresh legs are brought on. football is avsquad game. the last few years this been a cornerstone of Guardiolas success because he makes sure that when others might be limping over the line. his team are peaking for march April & May

PRECISELY!

Its safe to say that we all saw the downside of 5 subs when in the PL - The fact that Liverpool are able to field a lot of rotational players and then throw on Salah, TAA, Nunez, Jotam Diaz if the game isn`t heading their way on 60 mins is a massive advantage. And then those players are fresher when they play Man C/Arsenal.

Now we are in that position - we are the good team that can rotate and throw on Campbell, BBD, Peck, Ohare if the game isn`t in the bag by 60 mins.

Sometime it wont work (Hull), and others it will (Luton/Portsmouth) - if it keeps the player fresh for Boro/Leeds/Burnley - then its good squad management

 

[sheff_blade90]

Sometime it wont work (Hull), and others it will (Luton/Portsmouth) - if it keeps the player fresh for Boro/Leeds/Burnley - then its good squad management

yeah & long term planning as you say. the leeds game is massive. if we win that. i think we hugely demoralise burnley. we would needing 18pts from 12 games remaining.

 

[Nick Jansky]

There’s about 5 members on this forum that just hate Wilder. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but some people are just using multiple accounts to make echo their nonsense.

You’ve come out with this shite about multiple accounts before. Care to back it up & name names?

 

[Matlock Blade]

Blades, I don't have multiple accounts. Who else do you think I am? I can assure you I'm not schizophrenic!

Regarding Wilder, I don't hate or dislike him. I think it's a bit babyish of people to think you must either hate or love Wilder. There is nothing wrong in voicing opinions about a manager's tactics.

 

[Bladezz]

You’ve come out with this shite about multiple accounts before. Care to back it up & name names?

You are one of them

Most likely while you messaged.

 

[Nick Jansky]

You are one of them

Most likely while you messaged.

Wrong, as usual. But don’t let that stop you making yourself look ridiculous