Crowds back from October

[Broomhall Blade]

The molecules of CV have a downwards trajectory and fall forwards, to the ground. Vape stream rises and disperses.
The only person that could be at risk is the one directly in front of you, and even then the molecules will be hitting their back and not near the eyes, nose or mouth. Wearing a mask would also go some way to preventing that.

I thought I saw somewhere last week that there was scientific evidence that CV droplets could linger in the air alot long than was first thought.
Also that the ideal temperature CV loves was 4° hence why we have seen a drop in cases in the Summer and why they are predicting a 2nd wave in Autumn.

So if 4° is the ideal Temperature just give everyone a free Pyro that will kill the bloody virus, or fit those heat lamps in the roof of the stands. We would all have to go dressed like Tango in our Bermuda shorts but at least we can watch the Blades live.

I'm sure Crab Industries could sort a good deal out with the Club for either.

 

[Snowflake]

Forget the vaccine for the coming season.
It cannot be fully tested and ready for production before November and probably not until early 2021, if at all.
Manufacturing will take a little time and then it has to be distributed and individuals inoculated.
I hope to be ready for our FA cup final !

 

[S64 Blade]

Utterly ridiculous. We should be allowed in now. Infact we shouldn’t have ever been stopped.

Football grounds are outdoor, which reduces the chance of infection to minuscule amounts. You are also side by side and all face the same way, with next to no face to face contact, reducing risk even further.

Maybe the concourse bars should have been shut (perhaps with the exception of the outdoor kop bar), but the actual act of standing and watching a football match is among the safest of things.

Do you sit in silence and hold your breath all game?

 

[georgethecat]

Do you sit in silence and hold your breath all game?

Just sit quietly and suck on your Werther's. That should do the trick.

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

Latest Sheffield figures show approx 1.5 people per 10,000 received a positive result in the last week. Going to be incredibly unlucky to come into contact with anyone based on that! Get those crowds back!!

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Good news for folks who are getting married and were desperately thinking of reasons not to invite certain members of the family.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Papers now saying October will be start of limited capacity even though test events begin as soon as this month in certain sports.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Devil is in detail. Full or partial etc.

Also as he says second wave depending.

 

[LenTednTony]

You can carry the virus and not have symptoms

I tested positive and hadn’t felt better for weeks. I had no symptoms what so ever.

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

I tested positive and hadn’t felt better for weeks. I had no symptoms what so ever.

What made you get a test? Work or contact with someone with positive result ?

 

[LenTednTony]

What made you get a test? Work or contact with someone with positive result ?

My wife is shielding and I had returned to work. She is petrified at the thought of contracting it so she sent off for some tests. Mine came back positive even though scrupulous about masks and hand washing. 8 days later, second test came back negative.

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

My wife is shielding and I had returned to work. She is petrified at the thought of contracting it so she sent off for some tests. Mine came back positive even though scrupulous about masks and hand washing. 8 days later, second test came back negative.

Cheers .. that’s the big question. How many of us have had it without knowing ? Will they sort a reliable antibodies test ? If so, will they be able to prove conclusively we wouldn’t contract it again? Imo as important as a vaccine.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

It's not impossible to live normally without a cure. New Zealand have been doing it for weeks. October is quite a way away. If we get our numbers down to new Zealand levels by then then I can see it happening. Today's announcement however seems a bit murky to me. No word on numbers allowed in and a return to normal life 'by Christmas' so reading between the lines full capacity closer to that if everything goes well.

I agree.

There will never be a cure for the coronavirus infection, because there is no cure for any infection caused by a virus. None. Whether that's hepatitis, influenza, herpes, HIV, shingles, or the common cold. You cannot "cure" a viral infection. A vaccine isn't a "cure". All you can do is reduce the symptoms and slow down the spread of such diseases. There are "treatments" but none of these are "cures". I think it's about time that message was conveyed a bit more clearly to the general public - along with all the other garbled messages perhaps?

The last "coronavirus" known as SARS - struck originally in 2003. That was supposed to be the next big global killer. Nearly 17 years later we still do not have a vaccine for it. It is still under development. Fortunately that particular coronavirus seems to have disappeared off the map. If we do have a vaccine for COVID-19 this year that will be a minor miracle, but it will take at least another 12 months, or more, before we've vaccinated enough of the population for it to offer protection to the majority of us. And that's assuming that it works and is safe and that people do build up antibodies to COVID-19 and that those antibodies remain in our system to protect us in case we become exposed to it. The concerning thing from what we know so far about COVID-19 is it seems like few people actually produce antibodies to it and even in those that do the antibodies don't hang around for very long. If this is the case, then the vaccine is going to be of limited benefit.

Too early to say yet, but it's really important people stop thinking that the vaccine is going to be a "cure". No vaccine is.

So, given that, here's a question for everybody...

How are you planning to spend the rest of your life?

Locked away indoors, not socialising with people or going to work, for fear of catching something that will cause a serious health problem in less than 1% of the population?

I'm really concerned about the social and economic impact of this coronavirus. We've created a nation now of folks who are scared, folks who are ignorant of the facts, folks who are going to lose their livelihoods, folks who are going to die unnecessarily of other diseases that could have been treated, but aren't, because of the focus on this particular virus.

It's a long way back from here and I do think it's about time we got some honest and factual information out there to people and started letting them take responsibility again for their own lives.

 

[ATL Recs]

Utterly ridiculous. We should be allowed in now. Infact we shouldn’t have ever been stopped.

Football grounds are outdoor, which reduces the chance of infection to minuscule amounts. You are also side by side and all face the same way, with next to no face to face contact, reducing risk even further.

Maybe the concourse bars should have been shut (perhaps with the exception of the outdoor kop bar), but the actual act of standing and watching a football match is among the safest of things.

Oh dear me sand head

Boris is hoping for the Vaccine...remember he knows more than us

sorry that’s funny “Boris knows more than us”

 

[ATL Recs]

I agree.

There will never be a cure for the coronavirus infection, because there is no cure for any infection caused by a virus. None. Whether that's hepatitis, influenza, herpes, HIV, shingles, or the common cold. You cannot "cure" a viral infection. A vaccine isn't a "cure". All you can do is reduce the symptoms and slow down the spread of such diseases. There are "treatments" but none of these are "cures". I think it's about time that message was conveyed a bit more clearly to the general public - along with all the other garbled messages perhaps?

The last "coronavirus" known as SARS - struck originally in 2003. That was supposed to be the next big global killer. Nearly 17 years later we still do not have a vaccine for it. It is still under development. Fortunately that particular coronavirus seems to have disappeared off the map. If we do have a vaccine for COVID-19 this year that will be a minor miracle, but it will take at least another 12 months, or more, before we've vaccinated enough of the population for it to offer protection to the majority of us. And that's assuming that it works and is safe and that people do build up antibodies to COVID-19 and that those antibodies remain in our system to protect us in case we become exposed to it. The concerning thing from what we know so far about COVID-19 is it seems like few people actually produce antibodies to it and even in those that do the antibodies don't hang around for very long. If this is the case, then the vaccine is going to be of limited benefit.

Too early to say yet, but it's really important people stop thinking that the vaccine is going to be a "cure". No vaccine is.

So, given that, here's a question for everybody...

How are you planning to spend the rest of your life?

Locked away indoors, not socialising with people or going to work, for fear of catching something that will cause a serious health problem in less than 1% of the population?

I'm really concerned about the social and economic impact of this coronavirus. We've created a nation now of folks who are scared, folks who are ignorant of the facts, folks who are going to lose their livelihoods, folks who are going to die unnecessarily of other diseases that could have been treated, but aren't, because of the focus on this particular virus.

It's a long way back from here and I do think it's about time we got some honest and factual information out there to people and started letting them take responsibility again for their own lives.

Excellent post

 

[ATL Recs]

Cheers .. that’s the big question. How many of us have had it without knowing ? Will they sort a reliable antibodies test ? If so, will they be able to prove conclusively we wouldn’t contract it again? Imo as important as a vaccine.

The levels of immunity are short lived by the sounds of it

 

[bartman]

Being reported in a coupme of the papers today that 25% capacity will be used. 8k fans at BDTBL so I assume no away fans will be allowed.

If this is the case I assume there will be no season tickets sold and fans will be allocated tickets using the loyalty point system and the club will have to allocate where you sit to ensure social distancing whilst at the same time letting you sit with your family/friends hub. Fans may have a preferred choice of behind one of the goals or at the side. Ticket office allocate the seats and post out. The corporate areas will be sold out i would have thought.

Hopefully the club will look at system where all registered fans can get to a game. Maybe matches go on sale in groups of three and you can buy a ticket for one of those three games using the points system to prioritise. Once you have booked a ticket in that batch if 3, you have to wait for the next batch of 3 to go on sale. This would give all 'members' a chance to go to at least six games next season

 

[Blade56]

Is it time to make matches home fans only, no away travel?

 

[originaltrueblade]

Oh dear me sand head

sorry that’s funny “Boris knows more than us”

What makes it even funnier like it or not, he knows more than you

 

[S64 Blade]

Presumably test events, could be pre-season games. The only large crowd I ever recall was Inter Milan and that’s not going to happen in the foreseeable future (well not as friendly at least ).

If the League Cup is to go ahead, perhaps that can precede the season too? Another chance to build up to full capacity.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Cheers .. that’s the big question. How many of us have had it without knowing ? Will they sort a reliable antibodies test ? If so, will they be able to prove conclusively we wouldn’t contract it again? Imo as important as a vaccine.

Article.on radio other week sounded pessimistic about how long immunity lasts. Few months or so. Which also sounded like vaccine would have to be annual like flu.
If thats the case, might be tough decisions time coming up....

 

[Roygbiv]

Am I right in thinking antibodies don't hang around anyway? They reappear if you are exposed to the same virus and then prevent you from becoming reinfected?

I think it will be a yearly vaccine and it's here forever. It won't be a cure but it will help get us back to a normal way of life The main question is how long do you wait and whether we are damaging ourselves more by living the way we are now

 

[Bladesman]

Is it time to make matches home fans only, no away travel?

No Leeds fans in our away end.

 

[JOEYDEE]

The molecules of CV have a downwards trajectory and fall forwards, to the ground. Vape stream rises and disperses.
The only person that could be at risk is the one directly in front of you, and even then the molecules will be hitting their back and not near the eyes, nose or mouth. Wearing a mask would also go some way to preventing that.

They could sell these in the club shop !

 

[LenTednTony]

Cheers .. that’s the big question. How many of us have had it without knowing ? Will they sort a reliable antibodies test ? If so, will they be able to prove conclusively we wouldn’t contract it again? Imo as important as a vaccine.

They are questions we all would like the answer to. Especially contract it again. I think we will as it’s a virus that will probably mutate as time goes on

 

[gordoncharles]

Am I right in thinking antibodies don't hang around anyway? They reappear if you are exposed to the same virus and then prevent you from becoming reinfected?

I think it will be a yearly vaccine and it's here forever. It won't be a cure but it will help get us back to a normal way of life The main question is how long do you wait and whether we are damaging ourselves more by living the way we are now

When we talk about getting back to normality it should be very much age-based. John Hopkins University produced a study of CV19 related deaths in Geneva and from that worked out the likely risk of dying from it if you contract it

Age 5-9: 0.0016%
Age 10-19: 0.00032%
Age 20-49: 0.092%
Age 50-64: 0.14%
Age 65+: 5.6%

The huge increase for over 65s (two thirds of whom are over 80) is exaggerated because half the deaths that occurred in that age group were people living in care homes.

Although there could be long lasting health complications in some cases after surviving it, those rates are very low for under 65s, and considering the current estimate is that fewer than 1 in 3,000 people have it, the chances of even catching it at a football match are remote

 

[Charlieblade]

Stay calm, remain sensible. There is an economic imperative to get life back to as normal as possible. It just has to happen sooner or later.
Life cannot go on like before, but sooner or later, the new normal has to get on with it.

 

[pesch the mini genius]

Control the fear and you control people with fear , panic and stress (huge killers)

Face masks becoming mandotory is the newest scare factor

Sadly we will only be allowed back when the powers that be want to allow us to get back to normal and that sadly isn't for a while , add to the fact sky sports and bt will make a fortune with more behind closed door games

 

[blade too long]

why are they only letting pilots in

is it to ease british airways staff pay cut

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

I agree.

There will never be a cure for the coronavirus infection, because there is no cure for any infection caused by a virus. None. Whether that's hepatitis, influenza, herpes, HIV, shingles, or the common cold. You cannot "cure" a viral infection. A vaccine isn't a "cure". All you can do is reduce the symptoms and slow down the spread of such diseases. There are "treatments" but none of these are "cures". I think it's about time that message was conveyed a bit more clearly to the general public - along with all the other garbled messages perhaps?

The last "coronavirus" known as SARS - struck originally in 2003. That was supposed to be the next big global killer. Nearly 17 years later we still do not have a vaccine for it. It is still under development. Fortunately that particular coronavirus seems to have disappeared off the map. If we do have a vaccine for COVID-19 this year that will be a minor miracle, but it will take at least another 12 months, or more, before we've vaccinated enough of the population for it to offer protection to the majority of us. And that's assuming that it works and is safe and that people do build up antibodies to COVID-19 and that those antibodies remain in our system to protect us in case we become exposed to it. The concerning thing from what we know so far about COVID-19 is it seems like few people actually produce antibodies to it and even in those that do the antibodies don't hang around for very long. If this is the case, then the vaccine is going to be of limited benefit.

Too early to say yet, but it's really important people stop thinking that the vaccine is going to be a "cure". No vaccine is.

So, given that, here's a question for everybody...

How are you planning to spend the rest of your life?

Locked away indoors, not socialising with people or going to work, for fear of catching something that will cause a serious health problem in less than 1% of the population?

I'm really concerned about the social and economic impact of this coronavirus. We've created a nation now of folks who are scared, folks who are ignorant of the facts, folks who are going to lose their livelihoods, folks who are going to die unnecessarily of other diseases that could have been treated, but aren't, because of the focus on this particular virus.

It's a long way back from here and I do think it's about time we got some honest and factual information out there to people and started letting them take responsibility again for their own lives.

Brilliant post. I'd like this a thousand times if I could.

You're correct in saying you cannot cure a virus. The common cold being the major example. We've been exposed to the cold for years and years. It doesn't hurt us. I suspect this will be the same in years to come.