Craft bar shambles

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Come on you Nay Saying Cheeky Monkeys, make your mind up. Are "we" scruffy, beardy, smelly tramps. Or skinny trousered, ex banking, hipsters. It's time to call it - you narrow minded gimps (or similar....)
You can't seriously continue to accuse "us" of both

 

[Sean Thornton]

Most of that is curmudgeonly nonsense.

Who cares what it’s called if it tastes good? What’s wrong with having artwork on the can which is a collaboration with a local artist / designer? You can give stuff like this as much or as little attention as you think it merits, the key point is there is so much beer, for every palate and every thirst, and lots of it tastes great. Fill yer boots. Brewed with love rather than a chemical formula. By businesses who often live reasonably locally, spend their profits locally and pay their fair share of tax.

Banksy’s bitter is Shite as is the artwork on the bottle.

I’d hate to think what Tracy Emin puts in her beer, the scruffy skank.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Come on you Nay Saying Cheeky Monkeys, make your mind up. Are "we" scruffy, beardy, smelly tramps. Or skinny trousered, ex banking, hipsters. It's time to call it - you narrow minded gimps (or similar....)
You can't seriously continue to accuse "us" of both

Chickens coming home to roost?

(Earthy, redolent of blue unction, crayfish spit and dandelion honey matured in sileage casks 9.7abv best drunk from a leather soled Oxford shoe, tan, with segs)

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Like you I'm fortunate in that I travel a lot and agree with you regarding the proliferation of craft beer brewing abroad. I've visited tiny micro breweries in small Spanish and Mallorcan towns; in Budapest: Munich; Lisbon; New York and Malta just in the past 12 months and find it fascinating. Funnily enough I enjoy a pint of the stuff in the summer heat of Iberia but not in the UK.

I can relate to that too. I'm fine with a cold lager abroad when it's hot.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Come on you Nay Saying Cheeky Monkeys, make your mind up. Are "we" scruffy, beardy, smelly tramps. Or skinny trousered, ex banking, hipsters. It's time to call it - you narrow minded gimps (or similar....)
You can't seriously continue to accuse "us" of both[/QUOTE)

Phil, possibly there's a third option that is far removed from those descriptions you seem to think encapsulate everything that captures those punters who thrive on non-corporate lubrication? Maybe a hybrid of the two you've described, but with the essence of laddish interloper who's never been able to fit in no matter how hard he tries? Maybe that's why hops, water, and whatever else validates a 'decent' pint seems to take the fancy of anyone drawn towards the romance of the hand pulled 'nectar'.

I must add, stereotypes, of which I've contributed perhaps unfairly, are often the amalgam of what many people have observed on a regular basis.

 

[vorpal blade]

Brewed with love rather than a chemical formula. By businesses who often live reasonably locally, spend their profits locally and pay their fair share of tax.

but sadly cannot match the quality standard of the breweries they have replaced.

The snobbery is pathetic "Brewed with love rather than a chemical formula." I can't stand that, I've been in Fagan's with men who have refused to drink perfectly fine Tetley's in favour of Guinness® .... because for some reason Tetley's is infra dig .... is Guinness® brewed with more love than Tetley's and is it any less a chemical reaction of yeast and sugar than Tetley's ????

 

[Grappler]

but sadly cannot match the quality standard of the breweries they have replaced.

The snobbery is pathetic "Brewed with love rather than a chemical formula." I can't stand that, I've been in Fagan's with men who have refused to drink perfectly fine Tetley's in favour of Guinness® .... because for some reason Tetley's is infra dig .... is Guinness® brewed with more love than Tetley's and is it any less a chemical reaction of yeast and sugar than Tetley's ????

Maybe they just preferred Guinness?, I have a few mates who only drink Guinness and have done since the early 80's, mainly because it was the only beer (at the time) that you couldn't tamper with and water down in pubs in town.

 

[vorpal blade]

vorpal blade you ever had a go on this one pal?

No, but the Americaness of the fake 'craft' beer (suggestive that all the beers that preceded it weren't brewed by craftsmen btw), is one of the things that turns me off it. The ingratiating over-description of food & beer in American pubs (think M&S food adverts), is just vacuous.

I call myself what I do because I love Carroll.

 

[vorpal blade]

Maybe they just preferred Guinness?

no, 'real' ale drinkers from Manchester .... they turned their noses up at the Tetley's out of pure prejudice ... they wouldn't sip it because of something they'd read about it.

 

[Grappler]

No, but the Americaness of the fake 'craft' beer (suggestive that all the beers that preceded it weren't brewed by craftsmen btw), is one of the things that turns me off it. The ingratiating over-description of food & beer in American pubs (think M&S food adverts), is just vacuous.

I call myself what I do because I love Carroll.

Well I don't think Andy is signing for us pal, but no harm in being a fan I guess

(joking, I remember the poem from school, a fave of mine)

 

[Sean Thornton]

Maybe they just preferred Guinness?, I have a few mates who only drink Guinness and have done since the early 80's, mainly because it was the only beer (at the time) that you couldn't tamper with and water down in pubs in town.

The Guinness in There is very good.
I assume Tommy is still there?

 

[Grappler]

no, 'real' ale drinkers from Manchester .... they turned their noses up at the Tetley's out of pure prejudice ... they wouldn't sip it because of something they'd read about it.

Young people I assume? Can't be anyone my era who has never had Tetley's, one of the best tea bag companies I know......

(Joking, the best Tetley's used to be the Hallamshire on West Street, a few of those before the Limit Club, those were the days................)

 

[Wapping Blade]

but sadly cannot match the quality standard of the breweries they have replaced.

The snobbery is pathetic "Brewed with love rather than a chemical formula." I can't stand that, I've been in Fagan's with men who have refused to drink perfectly fine Tetley's in favour of Guinness® .... because for some reason Tetley's is infra dig .... is Guinness® brewed with more love than Tetley's and is it any less a chemical reaction of yeast and sugar than Tetley's ????

HPT in the old days (brewed in L***s) was an awesome pint. Not sure I’ve seen it on hand pump since they moved it (to Wolverhampton?).

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

but sadly cannot match the quality standard of the breweries they have replaced.

The snobbery is pathetic "Brewed with love rather than a chemical formula." I can't stand that, I've been in Fagan's with men who have refused to drink perfectly fine Tetley's in favour of Guinness® .... because for some reason Tetley's is infra dig .... is Guinness® brewed with more love than Tetley's and is it any less a chemical reaction of yeast and sugar than Tetley's ????

Well. It's not less of a chemical reaction, but it's a different chemical reaction. The malts in those two beers are treated in a very different way, and different quantities are used to produce different sugar compounds. Combine that with the different yeast strains & as you'd expect, the chemical reaction is different. Is that what you're driving at? And, as I've explained earlier in this thread, every batch of Timothy Taylor's tastes differently. Because it's made from natural ingredients in a big chemistry set. Malts from different farms. Water with different minerals if it has rained. Hops from different locations & stored differently. Sure, TT try hard to make every batch taste similar. Sure, by "branding" they hope customers either won't notice are aren't bothered. But, natural ingredients in a chemical recipe - they can't/don't/won't taste the same batch to batch.

 

[Grappler]

The Guinness in There is very good.
I assume Tommy is still there?

Yes it is good, as is the Moonshine, it's a good old boozer all round

 

[Snowman]

Well I don't think Andy is signing for us pal, but no harm in being a fan I guess

(joking, I remember the poem from school, a fave of mine)

I was thinking he was a mate of Carol Voordeman.

 

[Grappler]

I was thinking he was a mate of Carol Voordeman.

Carol was in the British Airways lounge at Manchester Airport last year, gave me a cheeky smile, she was probably trying to quickly work out my height in inches multiplied by my weight in pounds..!

 

[Pierre's PC]

Chickens coming home to roost?

(Earthy, redolent of blue unction, crayfish spit and dandelion honey matured in sileage casks 9.7abv best drunk from a leather soled Oxford shoe, tan, with segs)

A lively beer to be sure and one that will tickle the taste buds.

You should try 'Freya and sons angelic winter juice'. A wildly exotic mixture of cranberry and ferret sweat made with the purest water filted through 15 celestial Virgins. At 7.421% abv it has a light an fluffy taste that comes from the addition of unicorn horn.

 

[Sean Thornton]

A lively beer to be sure and one that will tickle the taste buds.

You should try 'Freya and sons angelic winter juice'. A wildly exotic mixture of cranberry and ferret sweat made with the purest water filted through 15 celestial Virgins. At 7.421% abv it has a light an fluffy taste that comes from the addition of unicorn horn.

Currently thinking about 10.9% Goan Chocolate and Lincolnshire sausage roll stout, but haven't got a wasps nest to sample it from. Which is a pity. No red trousers or smelly jumper though. Bollock naked at Cerberus Blade s local........

 

[Sean Thornton]

Currently thinking about 10.9% Goan Chocolate and Lincolnshire sausage roll stout, but haven't got a wasps nest to sample it from. Which is a pity. No red trousers or smelly jumper though. Bollock naked at Cerberus Blade s local........

And before anyone asks, yes it is cold.......

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Young people I assume? Can't be anyone my era who has never had Tetley's, one of the best tea bag companies I know......

(Joking, the best Tetley's used to be the Hallamshire on West Street, a few of those before the Limit Club, those were the days................)

Mmmm, a old fashioned pint of Tetley's. What I'd give for one of them...











...about £4!

 

[Eddiecolquhounsleg]

Karen

Banksy’s bitter is Shite as is the artwork on the bottle.

I’d hate to think what Tracy Emin puts in her beer, the scruffy skank.

Karen's Greasy Fanny.

Ummmmm.

The forum always provides the answers.

 

[Bill Johnson]

The Guinness in There is very good.
I assume Tommy is still there?

Tommy??? Tommy???
It's Tom; and yes both he and Barbara are still hosting and the gents is still reassuringly worse than a mediaeval modern.
Keeps a good pint does Tom and knocks up some good grub as well on that baby belling!

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

I have no idea why people think there are any craft beer pretentions. In October 2014, I had a collaboration beer (called Smoked In History) by Alechemy Brewing, Livingston (Scotland) & BrewDog, Ellon (near Aberdeen). It was a lovely dark smoked porter. To produce dark beers like stout & porter, the malt is toasted, burnt, roasted, smoked over a flame or in an oven to give the characteristic dark/black colour to the beer. The malt used in this particular beer had been smoked over a fire made from wood salvaged from the deck of Captain Scott's Antarctic Voyage ship RSS Discovery. Proper beer that..... Good. Honest. Who could have a problem with that?

 

[Rusty view]

Drink what you want to drink.

It's the company that counts.

Soppy bastards. I drink larger. Real ale. Craft ale. Spirits. The lot.

Its the people I'm with that matter

 

[Bill Johnson]

I drink 8 Ace, White Lightening and Buckfast.
I'm more of a solitary drinker.

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

why does it refer to Imperial Russia then?


(I'm going to take a wild guess, it's 'based on' some bottle sent to Tsar Nicholas by Bass that wasn't brewed by a Sheffielder exiled to Leicestershire?)

Imperial Russian stout is style of beer brewed for well over 100 years (Russia stopped being an empire 101 years ago!) by a number of British brewers. It's a style of beer. As for beers named after the brewery founder, I believe that Messrs Ward, Stones, Tenant, Bentley, Whitbread, Boddington etc, are long gone, as are their underwhelming ales.

 

[Freddie]

Larger Blade alert.

 

[Freddie]

Drink what you want to drink.

It's the company that counts.

Soppy bastards. I drink larger. Real ale. Craft ale. Spirits. The lot.

Its the people I'm with that matter

Larger Blades we are here wo-oh.

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

I used to drink a lot of Tetley's when I was a lad, mainly because there wasn't a lot else (after I grew out of old style British lager - yuk!). I lived in Coal Aston and 3 out of 4 pubs were Tetley's - the other was Stones. None of it was great, although at least the Tetley's then benefitted from being brewed in the old brewery in Leeds, rather than a beer factory in Northampton, where it's made now - don't drink it, it's rubbish. The point is now, we have the choice. If you choose to drink Carling or Fosters or John Smith's Smooth, that's fine. I don't have to drink that stuff anymore, I choose to drink other stuff which I prefer. Unlike some on here, who may (or may not!) have given more "unusual" beers a quick try and decided they "don't like it", I have over 40 years experience drinking crap beer, and I'm very happy about the current huge choice of beers.