[CONFIRMED] Gary Naysmith signs for Huddersfield

[SwissBlade]

Perhaps they could guarantee him first team football

 

[diplomat]

I too don't mind Taylor. He's one of those players where anything good he does is ignored by most of the crowd or just met with silence (like Quinn and Monty) but the slightest indiscretion is met with howls of derision. There are favourites such as Little at the end of last season who would do something shit that the aforementioned would get hammered for butwould be met with encouragement. Ward is a favourite in this sense too.

Stewart however hard he tries should only ever be allowed in the opposition dressing room at BDTBL

 

[diplomat]

Having read all the posts I am less angry. I liked him and thought he would be a good influence on our defence for another year. BUT I suppose we know how fit he is more than anyone so he probably represents a risk and would be one of the big earners. I'm happy to sit and see who we've got lined up to fill the squad up and then decide whether to moan or not.

Hope he has his first ever shot and scores against Wendy for them.

 

[Ollessendro]

What are you all getting so wound up about?

Naysmith wasn't actually that good. He was old, crocked and average. No, no forget about his 46 caps for his country and years of premiership experience, that counts for nothing. It was a complete fluke that he was part of the best defense in the Championship just over one year ago. We have a perfectly dequate replacement in the fantastic talent that is Andrew Taylor.

Anyway Huddersfield are a big club and hence we able to price him out of the market. How on earth do you expect Sheffield United to match the mighty Huddersfield Town on wages? We tried to keep him, but if a player wants to leave!? It was nothing to do with what we were offering. Gary was relishing playing for a bigger club and we tried to stop it but it was out of our hands.

We are very ambitous and are NOT a selling club. We are still on course for an automatic promotion challenge this season.

(**Ollessendro has just got a new job as Trevor Birch's PR spinster**)

WAR IS PEACE, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH AND FREEDOM IS SLAVERY! WILL YOU ALL STOP WHAT TYOU ARE DOING, PUT YOUR PENS, PAPER OR TOOLS DOWN AND HAVE A GOOD OLD CLAP FOR SHEFFIELD UNITED AND THE BAORDS COMMERCIALLY SAVVY DECISIONS!!!

 

[munksyb]

I think Bladesman1889 has hit the nail on the head,
The final outcome suggests to me that, the long drawn out negotiations were because his agent was not satisfied with SUFC offer ,
He must have touted himself around all other interested CCC clubs ( as I would be very suprised if he voluntarilly took the step down to div.1 )
With the result that all the other CCC clubs, had the same mis-givings as did we on his long term fitness.
I would imagine HTFC have taken a bit of a gamble that he may be over the injuries , & that might prove to be a gamble worth taking for them.
But SUFC hopefully have taken the view that we've had a few too many of those lately , and are not prepared to pay large moneys on injury prone players.

 

[Ollessendro]

I think Bladesman1889 has hit the nail on the head,
The final outcome suggests to me that, the long drawn out negotiations were because his agent was not satisfied with SUFC offer ,

That's the spirit soldier! It was those pesky agents!!? Nothing to do with the shitty offer put forward by SUFC. These rumours that we ofered a 1 year contract on peanuts are completely unfounded.

Claperty, clap, clap.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

He had just trousered £1 million plus a 250K loyalty bonus for playing 100 mins last season. Would you really of offered him a two year deal for another million?

 

[Ollessendro]

He had just trousered £1 million plus a 250K loyalty bonus for playing 100 mins last season. Would you really of offered him a two year deal for another million?

Again where do you get your information from? Any evidence to go with the suggesting that Naysmith was on 19k a week?

And to answer your question is yes.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Again where do you get your information from? Any evidence to go with the suggesting that Naysmith was on 19k a week?

And to answer your question is yes.

He was on 18k a week not 19k and he had a 250K loyalty clause in his contract should he complete it, you also should include the whole of the previous summer from his injury.

I get my information from people in and around the club.

That information was hardly difficult to get because Naysmith wasn't exactly shy about talking about it when he joined.
As I always post you either believe it or you do not its no skin off my nose. I have no intention of posting the names of who I talk to or who tells me things, nor do I long to be worshipped as ITK.
But as you won't have information disproving it (mainly because it is correct) you can only say you don't believe it because you don't wish it to be right.

Personally I don't think we should of offered him a two year deal given his recent playing record and the type of horrendous injury received. He may recover but one thing I would raise is why did no one else in the Championship or SPL decide to take the risk? Either the risk or the wage demands must of been too high would you not agree?

 

[sheffielder]

My apologies to those who made the decision on his contract offer. Apparently Naysmith has a Geary knee

 

[munksyb]

Olle,
you seem to be doin the politicians type quote,

take the bit that suits your comment & ignore the other bit ,

The final outcome suggests to me that, the long drawn out negotiations were because his agent was not satisfied with SUFC offer ,
He must have touted himself around all other interested CCC clubs ( as I would be very suprised if he voluntarilly took the step down to div.1 )
With the result that all the other CCC clubs, had the same mis-givings as did we on his long term fitness.

just re-read that , and the next 2 sentences explain the first part of my opinion

 

[Ollessendro]

He was on 18k a week not 19k and he had a 250K loyalty clause in his contract should he complete it, you also should include the whole of the previous summer from his injury.

I get my information from people in and around the club.

That information was hardly difficult to get because Naysmith wasn't exactly shy about talking about it when he joined.
As I always post you either believe it or you do not its no skin off my nose. I have no intention of posting the names of who I talk to or who tells me things, nor do I long to be worshipped as ITK.
But as you won't have information disproving it (mainly because it is correct) you can only say you don't believe it because you don't wish it to be right.

Personally I don't think we should of offered him a two year deal given his recent playing record and the type of horrendous injury received. He may recover but one thing I would raise is why did no one else in the Championship or SPL decide to take the risk? Either the risk or the wage demands must of been too high would you not agree?

ok, ok. I believe you.

However you are manipulating facts to suit your argument. Your disregarding his performances the season before when looking at his loyalty bonus. The fact that he made 30odd appearences and played his part in Unted having the best defence in the league you have purely ignored (and many Blades have quickly forgottten). Naysmith then had a bad injury and it was unfortunate he only played 2 games, but that is life.

Naysmith said he was willing to take a pay cut to stay at united. He realised the question marks around him and also United's finances. United offered him a deal and wanted to keep him. That is all fact. However, Huddersfield beat us to his signature. This is quite simply ridiculous in my mind. It shows that we were offering peanuts and a one year deal. Maybe you know different? (I'm genuinly interested). I think if United wanted to keep him (like they said they did) then they should have given him a decent offer.

Naysmith is still only 31 and despite coming back from a bad injury the guy is of proven quality. He could have done a job for 2 seasons (and possibly more) and young defenders, such as Taylor could leanr from him. Now we are left with 2 defenders who are simply not good enough.

This, for me, just shows that United are going backwards. It's the tip of the iceberg, with Kenny, lack of signings, previous sales, excuses etc making up the rest of it.

Olle,
you seem to be doin the politicians type quote,

take the bit that suits your comment & ignore the other bit ,

The final outcome suggests to me that, the long drawn out negotiations were because his agent was not satisfied with SUFC offer ,
He must have touted himself around all other interested CCC clubs ( as I would be very suprised if he voluntarilly took the step down to div.1 )
With the result that all the other CCC clubs, had the same mis-givings as did we on his long term fitness.

just re-read that , and the next 2 sentences explain the first part of my opinion

those pesky agents!?

(don't take it too seriously mate. I'm not having a dig at you, although I could see how it appears that way. My initial post was a tongue in cheek go at people who are constantly dfending United and refusing to see that the ship has a big fucking whole in it. I appreciate I made you the fall guy in my last post, but it's just a bit of mucking around).

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

ok, ok. I believe you.

However you are manipulating facts to suit your argument. Your disregarding his performances the season before when looking at his loyalty bonus. The fact that he made 30odd appearences and played his part in Unted having the best defence in the league you have purely ignored (and many Blades have quickly forgottten). Naysmith then had a bad injury and it was unfortunate he only played 2 games, but that is life.

I'm not trying to manipulate anything I'm just saying he got the best part of £1.2 Million for last year. Did he deserve the loyalty bonus? Of course he did he saw out his contract.
My point is that I think it would be irresponsible for our board to offer a 31 year old who has just had a horrendous injury a two year deal which would run in the millions.
I rate the player highly but I think sometimes we have to take our fan hats off and look at it properly.

Naysmith said he was willing to take a pay cut to stay at united. He realised the question marks around him and also United's finances. United offered him a deal and wanted to keep him. That is all fact. However, Huddersfield beat us to his signature. This is quite simply ridiculous in my mind. It shows that we were offering peanuts and a one year deal. Maybe you know different? (I'm genuinly interested). I think if United wanted to keep him (like they said they did) then they should have given him a decent offer.

I don't know the facts of the deal we offered, but I will ask the question. Incidentally what would you think we should of been offering over 2 years?

Naysmith is still only 31 and despite coming back from a bad injury the guy is of proven quality. He could have done a job for 2 seasons (and possibly more) and young defenders, such as Taylor could leanr from him. Now we are left with 2 defenders who are simply not good enough.

This, for me, just shows that United are going backwards. It's the tip of the iceberg, with Kenny, lack of signings, previous sales, excuses etc making up the rest of it.

.

I think Taylor is steady enough, but I would agree not as good as Naysmith.
While I can understand that you think we are going backwards (and you might have a point as we certainly aren't going to have the wage budget of previous years) I think you should see who we bring in. If we lose Paddy and bring in Simmo then I think we've moved forward. We'd have to go some to replace Naysmith like for like but I'll be interested to see where the wages go.

 

[shorehamview]

Are the people complaining about us letting Naysmith go the same ones who complained about signing Williamson because he is injured half the time? Are they the ones who want us signing young players? Yes, Naysmith was good, but he's had almost a year out with a serious injury. Maybe we weren't prepared to take the gamble on his fitness. Maybe he just wanted a change of scenery and a big signing-on fee.

 

[Ollessendro]

Incidentally what would you think we should of been offering over 2 years?

Good question (as it is a tough one to answer). Bearing in mind I am merley a fan and I have nothing to with Naysmith, have never met or know little about him (factors that would affect this) I'd say offer him a basic salary of around 8-10k a week. I would however include a bonus for number of appearences, say 100k for over 30 apperences, rising to 250k for over 50 appearences.

Note that the argument 'Huddersfield offered better than that and hence if you were at United you wouldn't have kept him' doesn't work, because I could/would adjust any offer depending on what other clubs are offering.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Good question (as it is a tough one to answer). Bearing in mind I am merley a fan and I have nothing to with Naysmith, have never met or know little about him (factors that would affect this) I'd say offer him a basic salary of around 8-10k a week. I would however include a bonus for number of appearences, say 100k for over 30 apperences, rising to 250k for over 50 appearences.

Note that the argument 'Huddersfield offered better than that and hence if you were at United you wouldn't have kept him' doesn't work, because I could/would adjust any offer depending on what other clubs are offering.

My problem is the contract being over 2 years. I would of agreed to a 1 year plus one at our discretion at around the levels you are talking about but Hudderfield offered a straight 2 year deal, I wouldn't of done that.

Structured my way we have the option of letting him go next season if his injuries are still hampering his appearances or if we feel that Callum McFadzean has progressed ahead of schedule. While people far smarter than I negotiate these deals I would think that wouldn't off been far off the structure of the deal offered to him.