Competition - Total league goals and who scores them?

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Interesting up to now how few generally, Hussey and Brooks are expected to get. Brooks could well feature more than people think, and if Hussey takes free-kicks he could bag a few.
 



cooperblade said:
If there's loads of predictions on this, it could be a useful (but incredibly simplistic) 'wisdom of crowds' type guide to what price each player should be on the anytime goalscorer betting market.

e.g. if 100 predictions give Billy Sharp an average of 23 goals, you could say he should be Even money to score at anytime. Basham is usually around 11/1 to score so, if that was the correct price, you'd expect him to get an average of 4 a season - wonder how many people will predict that he gets that many?

Loads of things it won't take into account (opposition, venue etc) but I'll find it interesting at least.
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Anyone would think you work for a bookmaker :)
 
Player Goals
George Long 0
Aaron Ramsdale 0

John Brayford 2
Kieron Freeman 0
Chris Hussey 4
Graham Kelly 0
Kieran Wallace 0
James Wilson 2
Jack O'Connell 2
Jake Wright 1

Chris Basham 2
David Brooks 2
Paul Coutts 0
John Fleck 2
Louis Reed 1
James Wallace 0
Ben Whiteman 1

Dominic Calvert-Lewin 2
Mark Duffy 6
Stefan Scougall 4
Martyn Woolford 0
Che Adams 0
Leon Clarke 15
Matt Done 6
Marc McNulty 10
Billy Sharp 25

Total goals 87
 
TOTAL GOALS- 73


Goalkeepers
  • George Long-0
  • Aaron Ramsdale-0

Defenders
  • John Brayford-2
  • Kieron Freeman-0
  • Chris Hussey-2
  • Graham Kelly-0
  • Kieran Wallace-0
  • James Wilson-1
  • Jack O'Connell-3
  • Jake Wright-0

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham-4
  • David Brooks-0
  • Paul Coutts-0
  • John Fleck- 5
  • Louis Reed-0
  • James Wallace-0
  • Ben Whiteman-0

Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin- 5
  • Mark Duffy- 6
  • Stefan Scougall- 2
  • Martyn Woolford- 0
  • Che Adams- 1
  • Leon Clarke- 14
  • Matt Done- 6
  • Marc McNulty- 5
  • Billy Sharp - 18
 
Goalkeepers
  • George Long
  • Aaron Ramsdale

Defenders
  • John Brayford - 1
  • Kieron Freeman - 0
  • Chris Hussey - 2
  • Graham Kelly - 0
  • Kieran Wallace - 0
  • James Wilson - 1
  • Jack O'Connell - 1
  • Jake Wright - 0

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham - 2
  • David Brooks - 0
  • Paul Coutts - 1
  • John Fleck - 3
  • Louis Reed - 0
  • James Wallace - 0
  • Ben Whiteman - 0

Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin - 0
  • Mark Duffy - 4
  • Stefan Scougall - 1
  • Martyn Woolford - 1
  • Che Adams - 6
  • Leon Clarke - 9
  • Matt Done - 5
  • Marc McNulty - 2
  • Billy Sharp - 14
Total 53

Still not enough creativity from midfield for me.

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Goalkeepers
  • George Long - 0
  • Aaron Ramsdale - 0

Defenders
  • John Brayford - 1
  • Kieron Freeman - 0
  • Chris Hussey - 3
  • Graham Kelly - 0
  • Kieran Wallace - 0
  • James Wilson - 2
  • Jack O'Connell - 3
  • Jake Wright - 0

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham - 2
  • David Brooks - 0
  • Paul Coutts - 1
  • John Fleck - 5
  • Louis Reed - 0
  • James Wallace - 0
  • Ben Whiteman - 1

Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin - 3
  • Mark Duffy - 6
  • Stefan Scougall - 2
  • Martyn Woolford - 0
  • Che Adams - 2
  • Leon Clarke - 9
  • Matt Done - 7
  • Marc McNulty - 8
  • Billy Sharp - 20

Total Goals 86 (to be scored by og and as yet unsigned peeps)
 
Bladepicker said:
Now Sitters, you know mine and your thoughts are aligned when it comes to Coutts and most football matters in general tbh but I think even given our appreciation of his footballing abilities you've done a typo there haven't you :)
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I thought my McNulty would be more outrageous o_O
 
Goalkeepers
  • George Long 0
  • Aaron Ramsdale 0

Defenders
  • John Brayford 1
  • Kieron Freeman 0
  • Chris Hussey 1
  • Graham Kelly 0
  • Kieran Wallace 0
  • James Wilson 1
  • Jack O'Connell 3
  • Jake Wright 0

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham 0
  • David Brooks 1
  • Paul Coutts 0
  • John Fleck 5
  • Louis Reed 0
  • James Wallace 0
  • Ben Whiteman 0

Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin 3
  • Mark Duffy 3
  • Stefan Scougall 5
  • Martyn Woolford 0
  • Che Adams 5
  • Leon Clarke 15
  • Matt Done 3
  • Marc McNulty 5
  • Billy Sharp 20
Own Goals 3

Total - 74
 
Bergen Blade said:
How do we implement them into Blade56 's system though?
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BB, looks like a few want to get involved. Are you going to run a spreadsheet and weekly updates? As predictions have already been submitted I suggest we all have to fill in the list in post #6 as a start point by KO Satdi. Any additional players between now and then can be added upto KO Satdi. Any players leaving between now and KO are void (total score to be adjusted accordingly allowing for said departures). Goals are for league games only?
 
SouthEssexBlade said:
Interesting up to now how few generally, Hussey and Brooks are expected to get. Brooks could well feature more than people think, and if Hussey takes free-kicks he could bag a few.
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Hussey has 7 goals in 174 appearances so far. The Brooks thing is obviously dependant on how Wilder uses him but I think I might have underestimated how many Scoogall will get us.
I think him and Done are going to be our main impact player coming off the bench when we need a goal.
 
Goalkeepers
  • George Long 0
  • Aaron Ramsdale 0

Defenders
  • John Brayford 3
  • Kieron Freeman 2
  • Chris Hussey 2
  • Graham Kelly 0
  • Kieran Wallace 0
  • James Wilson 2
  • Jack O'Connell 2
  • Jake Wright 2

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham 3
  • David Brooks 1
  • Paul Coutts 2
  • John Fleck 6
  • Louis Reed 1
  • James Wallace 0
  • Ben Whiteman 3

Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin 3
  • Mark Duffy 5
  • Stefan Scougall 4
  • Martyn Woolford 0
  • Che Adams 0
  • Leon Clarke 18
  • Matt Done 10
  • Marc McNulty 2
  • Billy Sharp 20
Total: 90
 
Blade56 said:
BB, looks like a few want to get involved. Are you going to run a spreadsheet and weekly updates? As predictions have already been submitted I suggest we all have to fill in the list in post #6 as a start point by KO Satdi. Any additional players between now and then can be added upto KO Satdi. Any players leaving between now and KO are void (total score to be adjusted accordingly allowing for said departures). Goals are for league games only?
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Wasn't planning on doing weekly updates to be honest! :D I could put things into an Excel sheet and show the standings every now and then? Unless you want to take over the entire thing, which I'd be fine with! :)
 
oooh i'll muck in a have a go for a bit of fun if you don't mind! :)

what does it mean if i win though?
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Goalkeepers
  • George Long 0
  • Aaron Ramsdale 0

Defenders
  • John Brayford 1
  • Kieron Freeman 1
  • Chris Hussey 1
  • Graham Kelly 0
  • Kieran Wallace 0
  • James Wilson 1
  • Jack O'Connell 2
  • Jake Wright 0

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham 1
  • David Brooks 4
  • Paul Coutts 0
  • John Fleck 5
  • Louis Reed 0
  • James Wallace 1
  • Ben Whiteman 1

Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin 5
  • Mark Duffy 5
  • Stefan Scougall 2
  • Martyn Woolford 0
  • Che Adams 12
  • Leon Clarke 17
  • Matt Done 5
  • Marc McNulty 3
  • Billy Sharp 22
Total: 89 Own Goals: 5
 
JonnyRed(WCFC) said:
oooh i'll muck in a have a go for a bit of fun if you don't mind! :)

what does it mean if i win though?
embarrassed-smiley51.gif


Goalkeepers
  • George Long 0
  • Aaron Ramsdale 0

Defenders
  • John Brayford 1
  • Kieron Freeman 1
  • Chris Hussey 1
  • Graham Kelly 0
  • Kieran Wallace 0
  • James Wilson 1
  • Jack O'Connell 2
  • Jake Wright 0

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham 1
  • David Brooks 4
  • Paul Coutts 0
  • John Fleck 5
  • Louis Reed 0
  • James Wallace 1
  • Ben Whiteman 1

Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin 5
  • Mark Duffy 5
  • Stefan Scougall 2
  • Martyn Woolford 0
  • Che Adams 12
  • Leon Clarke 17
  • Matt Done 5
  • Marc McNulty 3
  • Billy Sharp 22
Total: 89 Own Goals: 5
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Don't worry, you won't win, not with 89 goals.
 



Goalkeepers
  • George Long - 1
  • Aaron Ramsdale - 0

Defenders
  • John Brayford - 4
  • Kieron Freeman - 2
  • Chris Hussey - 2
  • Graham Kelly - 0
  • Kieran Wallace - 0
  • James Wilson - 5
  • Jack O'Connell - 3
  • Jake Wright - 2

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham - 4
  • David Brooks - 2
  • Paul Coutts - 0
  • John Fleck - 4
  • Louis Reed - 3
  • James Wallace - 0
  • Ben Whiteman - 0

Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin - 8
  • Mark Duffy - 7
  • Stefan Scougall - 7
  • Martyn Woolford - 0
  • Che Adams - 0
  • Leon Clarke - 25
  • Matt Done - 21
  • Marc McNulty - 13
  • Billy Sharp - 18

131 goals there.

Im erring on caution


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JonnyRed(WCFC) said:
Northampton only scored 82 when they won Lg2 last season..

or do you think i've gone too high??
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Too high. Anything above 80 is unlikely, 89 is exceptional. We're not going to be exceptional. Any potent attacking team is made more by their play and creativity than their goalscorers, we have goalscorers but not ones who create that much for themselves, and we don't have enough pace and creativity. Nor do we have a big side so we won't run riot at set pieces.

Everybody seems to be going too high, it's tempting to post what you think individual players are capable of without factoring in anything else.
 
Ricky said:
Too high. Anything above 80 is unlikely, 89 is exceptional. We're not going to be exceptional. Any potent attacking team is made more by their play and creativity than their goalscorers, we have goalscorers but not ones who create that much for themselves, and we don't have enough pace and creativity. Nor do we have a big side so we won't run riot at set pieces.

Everybody seems to be going too high, it's tempting to post what you think individual players are capable of without factoring in anything else.
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Wilder wants to play with tempo though so thats what has skewed the thought of a few more goals than before, plus there was plenty of goals scored at BDTBL last season so its not beyond the realms of possibility.
 
Goalkeepers
  • George Long - 0
  • Aaron Ramsdale - 0

Defenders
  • John Brayford - 2
  • Kieron Freeman - 1
  • Chris Hussey - 2
  • Graham Kelly - 0
  • Kieran Wallace - 0
  • James Wilson - 2
  • Jack O'Connell - 5
  • Jake Wright - 1

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham - 2
  • David Brooks - 1
  • Paul Coutts - 0
  • John Fleck - 4
  • Louis Reed - 0
  • James Wallace - 0
  • Ben Whiteman - 1

Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin - 5
  • Mark Duffy - 5
  • Stefan Scougall - 2
  • Martyn Woolford - 0
  • Che Adams - 15
  • Leon Clarke - 14
  • Matt Done - 3
  • Marc McNulty - 3
  • Billy Sharp - 17

Total goals: 85





That's as it stands. Not sure how you're planning to do it when new signings arrive.

I will revisit and amend accordingly.
 
NewGoalkeepers
  • George Long - 0
  • Aaron Ramsdale - 0

Defenders
  • John Brayford - 2
  • Kieron Freeman - 0
  • Chris Hussey - 3
  • Graham Kelly - 0
  • Kieran Wallace - 0
  • James Wilson - 1
  • Jack O'Connell - 4
  • Jake Wright - 0

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham - 4
  • David Brooks - 2
  • Paul Coutts - 0
  • John Fleck - 7
  • Louis Reed - 0
  • James Wallace - 0
  • Ben Whiteman - 0

Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin - 4
  • Mark Duffy - 8
  • Stefan Scougall - 2
  • Martyn Woolford - 0
  • Che Adams - 0
  • Leon Clarke - 16
  • Matt Done - 6
  • Marc McNulty - 8
  • Billy Sharp - 21

Total goals: 88
 
cooperblade said:
If there's loads of predictions on this, it could be a useful (but incredibly simplistic) 'wisdom of crowds' type guide to what price each player should be on the anytime goalscorer betting market.

e.g. if 100 predictions give Billy Sharp an average of 23 goals, you could say he should be Even money to score at anytime. Basham is usually around 11/1 to score so, if that was the correct price, you'd expect him to get an average of 4 a season - wonder how many people will predict that he gets that many?

Loads of things it won't take into account (opposition, venue etc) but I'll find it interesting at least.
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HA Ha Ha. The wisdom of crowds line had me laughing my nuts off. Thanks for that .

Wisdom of crowds (old man shakes his head)

be looking a long time on here to see that
 
Goalkeepers
  • George Long 0
  • Aaron Ramsdale 0

Defenders
  • John Brayford 3
  • Kieron Freeman 0
  • Chris Hussey 4
  • Graham Kelly 0
  • Kieran Wallace 0
  • James Wilson 2
  • Jack O'Connell 3
  • Jake Wright 2

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham 5
  • David Brooks 1
  • Paul Coutts 0
  • John Fleck 3
  • Louis Reed 2
  • James Wallace 0
  • Ben Whiteman 2

Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin 5
  • Mark Duffy 2
  • Stefan Scougall 7
  • Martyn Woolford 0
  • Che Adams 8
  • Leon Clarke 11
  • Matt Done 6
  • Marc McNulty 7
  • Billy Sharp 22
okay total goals i got on here is 95 had 115 at first and can't get it any lower if new signings come in i would change it around a bit depending on who we sign
 
Bergen

great idea, hope I've met the rules

Goalkeepers
  • George Long -0
  • Aaron Ramsdale - 0

Defenders
  • John Brayford - 3
  • Kieron Freeman - 0
  • Chris Hussey - 5
  • Graham Kelly - 0
  • Kieran Wallace - 2
  • James Wilson - 2
  • Jack O'Connell - 4
  • Jake Wright - 1

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham - 2
  • David Brooks - 1
  • Paul Coutts - 0
  • John Fleck - 4
  • Louis Reed - 0
  • James Wallace - 0
  • Ben Whiteman - 2

  • Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin - 7
  • Mark Duffy - 5
  • Stefan Scougall - 0
  • Martyn Woolford - 0
  • Che Adams - 2
  • Leon Clarke - 12
  • Matt Done - 6
  • Marc McNulty - 10
  • Billy Sharp - 18
Own goals - 6
92 goals in total I think
 
I really hope Scougall doesn't get given the amount of starts/game time he'd need to even have a chance of getting 7 goals.
 
Only about two or three of us will be anywhere near the correct total goals at this rate...
 
And the correct goals total will be?

Got my pencil sharpened.
 
blade too long said:
Goalkeepers
  • George Long - 1
  • Aaron Ramsdale - 0

Defenders
  • John Brayford - 4
  • Kieron Freeman - 2
  • Chris Hussey - 2
  • Graham Kelly - 0
  • Kieran Wallace - 0
  • James Wilson - 5
  • Jack O'Connell - 3
  • Jake Wright - 2

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham - 4
  • David Brooks - 2
  • Paul Coutts - 0
  • John Fleck - 4
  • Louis Reed - 3
  • James Wallace - 0
  • Ben Whiteman - 0

Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin - 8
  • Mark Duffy - 7
  • Stefan Scougall - 7
  • Martyn Woolford - 0
  • Che Adams - 0
  • Leon Clarke - 25
  • Matt Done - 21
  • Marc McNulty - 13
  • Billy Sharp - 18

131 goals there.

Im erring on caution


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It's the last day of the season, the blades need a point to secure second place and go up automatically. We're into the second minute of three additional minutes at the end of the second half. We're 2-1 down thanks to a Ched Evans brace.

It's eerily quite as the bramall lane faithful stare down the barrel of another playoff lottery. A Hussey free kick goes straight into the wall but deflects out for a corner in front of the kop.

George Long looks to the dugout. Wilder gives him the signal...

A legend is born.
 
Goalkeepers
  • George Long - 0
  • Aaron Ramsdale - 0

Defenders
  • John Brayford - 2
  • Kieron Freeman - 0
  • Chris Hussey - 3
  • Graham Kelly - 0
  • Kieran Wallace - 0
  • James Wilson - 1
  • Jack O'Connell - 2
  • Jake Wright - 0

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham - 3
  • David Brooks - 0
  • Paul Coutts- 0
  • John Fleck - 4
  • Louis Reed - 0
  • James Wallace - 0
  • Ben Whiteman - 0

Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin - 4
  • Mark Duffy - 6
  • Stefan Scougall - 4
  • Martyn Woolford - 0
  • Che Adams - 8
  • Leon Clarke - 13
  • Matt Done - 6
  • Marc McNulty - 7
  • Billy Sharp - 18
Own goals - 2

Total - 83
 



Goalkeepers
  • George Long 0
  • Aaron Ramsdale 0

Defenders
  • John Brayford 5
  • Kieron Freeman 0
  • Chris Hussey 3
  • Graham Kelly 0
  • Kieran Wallace 0
  • James Wilson 0
  • Jack O'Connell 2
  • Jake Wright 0

Midfielders
  • Chris Basham 1
  • David Brooks 2
  • Paul Coutts 0
  • John Fleck 3
  • Louis Reed 0
  • James Wallace 1
  • Ben Whiteman 0

Attacking midfielders/Forwards
  • Dominic Calvert-Lewin 6
  • Mark Duffy 3
  • Stefan Scougall 6
  • Martyn Woolford 0
  • Che Adams 8
  • Leon Clarke 16
  • Matt Done 11
  • Marc McNulty 8
  • Billy Sharp 26
I've put too many goals on all the strikers, only one of Adams, Done or McNulty will get that many. I've got more than 100 if you add them up, but think we'll score about 81.
 
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