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My question is do you think NC is over harsh on mcnulty

I am a fan of mcnulty but he didn't play particular well tonight - that said how the hell is he supposed to work with the utter garbage service he is getting

Some may say Done makes a better job with the same service and I don't disagree but sitting where I do in the south stand I can see cloughs reaction virtually every time he can't say hold up play or can't win a header against a kid a foot taller and 3 stone heavier .

Heard NC interviewed on drive home and whilst he wasn't on his own mcnulty got slated ... again.

Is it me ???
 



Fully agree with you. McNulty had zero service tonight, and it was wrong for Clough to single him out for a slating.
 
Has anyone ever heard him slate with £1.5/2 million pound game changing, natural born motivator and leader right back? Cardiff must be p*ssing themselves at that bit of business. He could have bought 3 good players where we needed them.
 
Has anyone ever heard him slate with £1.5/2 million pound game changing, natural born motivator and leader right back? Cardiff must be p*ssing themselves at that bit of business. He could have bought 3 good players where we needed them.

He's shit then?
 
He's shit then?

no, but was he any better than McNulty tonight?

He's a ridiculous waste of money given our issues. The money should have been spent where needed and not a player who hardly looks head and shoulders above everyone else.If we'd bought 2 or 3 players in the important positions and then him, great. But to spend that money on a fullback in this league is insane.
 
McNulty on Clough, for yesterday's Star.

“I’m a big boy now and I can take it,” McNulty continued. “It’s a man’s business and you’ve got to be able to take the rough with the smooth.

“I’m certainly not going to cry about it. Why would I?

“To be honest, other people make a lot more of things like that than I do because I know he only wants the best for me and has got my best interests at heart. It certainly keeps you on your toes.”

His suspicions are correct. Away from the television cameras and dictaphones, Clough has been at pains to stress his often brutal critiques are designed to ensure McNulty realises his potential. Makes the most of the talent which, earlier this term, prompted goalkeeper Mark Howard to describe him as “the best natural finisher” among United’s squad.

“The gaffer was a brilliant player,” McNulty said. “You don’t represent your country, like he did, without being one of the best of your generation so there’s tons I can learn from him and also the rest of the lads here.

“Even when I’m on the bench, I stay focused and take on board what he’s saying and asking people to do because that’s how you learn what he wants and how he reads the game.

“If you didn’t then, you’d be wasting a real opportunity. I’ve still got lots to get better at and work on.

“And I know, if he didn’t rate me or think I had it in me, then he wouldn’t have brought me here in the first place. At a club like this, you can never stand still or take things for granted.”
 
no, but was he any better than McNulty tonight?

He's a ridiculous waste of money given our issues. The money should have been spent where needed and not a player who hardly looks head and shoulders above everyone else.If we'd bought 2 or 3 players in the important positions and then him, great. But to spend that money on a fullback in this league is insane.

Stop it and go to bed. You really are making yourself look silly.
 
Cloughy I am sorry you got a big call wrong tonight. Everyone could see that Flynny was struggling a good 25 minutes before the end, but then laughably leaves him on, and subs Done with 5 minutes to go because he was supposedly knackered even though he was still running around like a spring chicken. Flynn looked like he was blowing through his ass well before the end and had also been on the end of some hefty whacks from the opposition, takes another after the subs had been made and was then a passenger. Will this side go up, probably not, does it deserve to go up, no.
 
Cloughy has pissed me off no end tonight and you simply don't berate your players in public, very amateurish indeed.

I would guess he seems to think that motivates McNuts.
 
2 points.

Forget service, McNulty was dog-shite tonight. Lack of service has nothing to fo with a lack of running, effort and the ability to control a football properly. Done had the similar service and got himself a goal through application and desire. McNulty was lucky to make HT for me. Another awful, awful performance from him.

Clough does appear to go out of his way to single McNulty out - do you honestly think that Clough is stupid and doesn't realise he's doing it? It's calculated, clearly Clough is of the opinion that this is a way to fire McNulty up. Public criticism, private criticism, arm round shoulders,a whisper in his ear - all players react good/bad to different things. The amount of times Clough has been critical of McNulty publically suggests that this approach is effective and gets the desired reaction.
 



McNulty has really been overated by some all season. I hope he comes good but his work rate is shocking and he may as well be a buffer in a pinball machine for how much the ball bounces off him - why , because his first touch is shocking. In fact I'm struggling to think of another player we've had with a worse touch. If he was a midfielder or defender no one would want him in the team because he would be a liability.
NC had a go at several players tonight not just him.
Fans want honesty from a manager and he's given that since he came in based on his opinion as the manager of our team, he has always told it how he sees the players.
McNulty I hope will come good as do I hope for any of our players,coaches, managers and board.
 
I think that's harsh. He has come good. 12 goals in 17 starts isn't too bad for a first season in the league. Today didn't work out for him but his first touch wasn't bad for his goal at Rochdale. We need to find another way to motivate him because we can't just ostracise him alone for poor team performances repeatedly. We need our midfield to support him more by pressing higher up the pitch and running off the ball to offer support. If Coutts is unwell or unfit he should be replaced. We can't afford both Doyle and Coutts to take a position just in front of defence and put all our eggs in the wing play working from long punts upfield and balls kicked over ones shoulder from midfield.
 
2 points.

Forget service, McNulty was dog-shite tonight. Lack of service has nothing to fo with a lack of running, effort and the ability to control a football properly. Done had the similar service and got himself a goal through application and desire. McNulty was lucky to make HT for me. Another awful, awful performance from him.

Clough does appear to go out of his way to single McNulty out - do you honestly think that Clough is stupid and doesn't realise he's doing it? It's calculated, clearly Clough is of the opinion that this is a way to fire McNulty up. Public criticism, private criticism, arm round shoulders,a whisper in his ear - all players react good/bad to different things. The amount of times Clough has been critical of McNulty publically suggests that this approach is effective and gets the desired reaction.

That's why I made the OP a question mate because it would better show what peoples own views were ... Seems to be mixed and I myself am torn
At the end of the season if he plays a decent amount I bet he will have 17-18 goals which is pretty good in my opinion for a developing striker.
But the notion of publicly criticising players is not one I am a fan of unless it's constructive which it wasn't..
To be fair if someone put a microphone in my face after a loss like that I might say something in heat of the moment
 
It was disappointing that Clough took no blame at all for last night. His substitutions were baffling anf he shouldve just brought Flynn off when he got injured, we panicked when he was wondering about the pitch in an aimless manner and lost all our shape. Shouldve set up with 10 with Murphy up top and got our shape correct.
 
Thing with McNutly and a lot of pro's is consistency...he's relatively young and a good finisher...he can reach the levels required occasionally and look great , ie Spurs...but is that level of performance the exception?

It would appear so at the moment.
Sad to say also, the physical aspect is a big part of the game as you get higher up the leagues, if you're less talented/quick you compensate with strength/size...which Mcnulty doesn't have..he should look at Keegan as the way to go if he wants to play higher than this level...
 
Then, if that's the case, it would come down to a discussion between the player and the manager before he made his last sub....
discussion?? it i've hooked him.. mind you i'd have never picked him in the first place.. ;)
 
My view of the game was that quite a few had off-night.
Coutts was terrible,plenty of mis-placed passes
McNulty's ball control was poor by his own standards
McCleverly made 3 or four really bad mistakes (that luckily we didn't get punished for)
Reed, who set up the goal for us with a long ball that Done scored from, later continued to concentrate on first-time flicks that went astray, the second of which led to the winning goal.
Holt had an ineffective game when brought on.
Clough should not have started with Coutts, by Clough's own admission, he was suffering from a virus before the game.
Clough should have substituted Flynn in the first half after a succession of tough tackles limited his effectiveness.
Clough not putting on another front man, such as Adams, capable of keeping the Peterborough defenders in their own half
Clough publicly berating his own players while on the pitch and on the radio. Good managers (those with any proper managerial training) are taught to discuss shortcomings with their staff on a 1:1 basis. in private.
Baxter was not available through a ridiculous challenge against Coventry. limiting his manager's selection options
 
My question is do you think NC is over harsh on mcnulty

I am a fan of mcnulty but he didn't play particular well tonight - that said how the hell is he supposed to work with the utter garbage service he is getting

Some may say Done makes a better job with the same service and I don't disagree but sitting where I do in the south stand I can see cloughs reaction virtually every time he can't say hold up play or can't win a header against a kid a foot taller and 3 stone heavier .

Heard NC interviewed on drive home and whilst he wasn't on his own mcnulty got slated ... again.

Is it me ???

Whilst I don't agree with him naming players, what he said I agreed with. McNulty tried to flick the ball through first time far too often. He should've just put his foot on it and passed it to another player rather than force it.

He also mentioned Holt saying he had a poor game. Again, I agree, he never really got into the game.

Mentioned one more but I can't remember who.
 



My view of the game was that quite a few had off-night.
Coutts was terrible,plenty of mis-placed passes
McNulty's ball control was poor by his own standards
McCleverly made 3 or four really bad mistakes (that luckily we didn't get punished for)
Reed, who set up the goal for us with a long ball that Done scored from, later continued to concentrate on first-time flicks that went astray, the second of which led to the winning goal.
Holt had an ineffective game when brought on.
Clough should not have started with Coutts, by Clough's own admission, he was suffering from a virus before the game.
Clough should have substituted Flynn in the first half after a succession of tough tackles limited his effectiveness.
Clough not putting on another front man, such as Adams, capable of keeping the Peterborough defenders in their own half
Clough publicly berating his own players while on the pitch and on the radio. Good managers (those with any proper managerial training) are taught to discuss shortcomings with their staff on a 1:1 basis. in private.
Baxter was not available through a ridiculous challenge against Coventry. limiting his manager's selection options


Well said, in particular the public humiliations of players, there's a time and a place.

I would add:

I welcome 4-4-2 but the Coutts / Doyle central pairing is far too limited in the final third. Play one or the other together with a creator. In Baxter's and scougall's absence we should have played Reed from the start. We are in League 1 not Champions League! I thought both Doyle and Coutts played well individually but both far too deep as a pair. We should be looking to win games FFS. Coutts was great for half an hour and then lost it, maybe due to his illness.

The substitutions were bizarre, not just poor.
45 mins - Holt (why?) for Coutts. Reed is one of our best players and Holt has been weak in his short time here.
60 mins - Reed for McNulty. midfielder for a striker at 0-0.
Why oh why didn't we put Adams on for McNulty? Answer - to go 4-5-1 presumably, but what's wrong with icluding Adams in that formation like every other time he's played - and scored.
80 mins thereabouts. Freeman for Done -full back for a striker at 1-0 up.

The net effect after an hour, in a game with a lenient referee who allowed so much physical contact and against a team which had buffeted our forward players all night, was to play a midfield 5 of: Flynn, Doyle, Holt, Reed and Murphy. HOW SMALL AND LIGHTWEIGHT IS THAT MIDFIELD? Added to that our teamwork disintegrated and we were hacking the ball forward aimlessly. Clough said his subs were changed to "win the game" - WHAT? Our goal happened purely out of the perseverence of Done, well done sir, but not through good play. Reed's ball was intended at least, more than could be said for most hoofed forward balls in the second half, but Done would only score that goal once every 30 or so attempts.

Flynn's injury was unfortunate but we were only exposed because we had put a full back on for a striker at 1-0 up.

"No strikers on the bench" - well we have only one striker with an injury, so who's fault is that? We've just spent over £2m on two players and there is such a thing as a loan system anyway.

In the final analysis their keeper made 2 saves - one easy shot from Doyle and another good one he ti[[ed over the bar. Simply not good enough.

If you play 4-5-1 or 4-4-2 IF YOUR MIDFIELD DOESNT GET UPFIELD IN AND AROUND THE BOX YOU WILL NEVER SCORE ENOUGH GOALS. Last night Done and McNulty did not get enough service, nor were they supported with enough numbers in forward areas. We attack in twos and threes against defences of 8 and 9 players. It's rubbish.

McEveley has two or three mistakes in him per game and therefore the Kennedy injury is devastating news.

Like him or not, Campbell- Ryce was missed last night; he would have been a good option in that second half. Bizarre.
 

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