Chris Wilder says..........

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FMBlade1 said:
There are players in the championship like Helder Costa who cost 13 million and play for lowly Wolves who score 35 yard screamers, have we got something to match that? Will Evans, Sharp Clarke etc score enough goals? Will Moore cope being under so much more pressure? And the full backs?
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I'll take your 35 yard screamer and give you a Freeman 3 yard smash.

I believe that's one all.

Lots of clubs will have better players than us but I doubt many will have a better team, and it's a team game.
 
For what it's worth I agree with FM.
I have said before some of our fans need to take the Blades specs off.
The side did brilliantly last season and they deserve a chance to prove themselves in the Championship.
The team spirit we had last season will hopefully continue and stand us in good stead.
But they are players who have either not played at championship level or have previously been deemed not good enough for championship sides and sold.
The signings so far are from lower league, and while they are promising no one knows if they can make the step up.

Holmes does not excite me at all,) 30 never played higher than league one.
Leonard on the other hand does, right age, athletic etc.
But whoever pulls on the Red & White shirt will get my full backing.
Know one knows which players will make the step up, some will disappoint some will surprise.
Personally I think we will finish middle to bottom half.

I backed United to win the league last season at all odds ranging from 10's when we were at the bottom of the league.
I won't be backing us this season and I doubt many none Blades will.
 
FMBlade1 said:
Bristol City smashed the league a few years back and struggled afterwards. We're relying on an awful amount of players to make the step up and Wilder hasn't managed at their level yet.

Suppose saying we might find things difficult makes me less of a true Blade xd
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You certainly suffer from Bladey Inferiority Complex. I prescribe a dose of Tuftyball, twice a week for nine months. It's remarkable medicine. It prevents excessive cap-doffing and assists cognitive thinking. In no time you begin to appreciate we have a very good team and the Championship isn't populated by the giants of world football.
 
Pinchy said:
You certainly suffer from Bladey Inferiority Complex. I prescribe a dose of Tuftyball, twice a week for nine months. It's remarkable medicine. It prevents excessive cap-doffing and assists cognitive thinking. In no time you begin to appreciate we have a very good team and the Championship isn't populated by the giants of world football.
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Give over. It's absolutely full of internationals, half the Scotland team play in the championship.
 
Maidenhead said:
I'll take your 35 yard screamer and give you a Freeman 3 yard smash.

I believe that's one all.

Lots of clubs will have better players than us but I doubt many will have a better team, and it's a team game.
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The one that hit the net following a sequence of 17 passes, perhaps? Such flowing football is no doubt commonplace at Championship venues. How will we ever cope?
 
BushBlade said:
Give over. It's absolutely full of internationals, half the Scotland team play in the championship.
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Sadly half the Scotland team doesn't equate to much.

That said, it would be very naive to think the Championship is any less than a very very competitive league. There is plenty of money being thrown at it and for that alone it is a major step up from L1.
That said i just have a feeling that most ( not all ) our players have enough about them to make that step up.

If we hit the ground running we will be a club with potentially Welsh, Irish and Scottish players going off on international duty by Christmas.
 
Championship clubs can throw money about all they want, all they're buying are the same standard of player still as they were 10 years ago. As this season has proven there's plenty of value out there - it's why we've invested heavily in Paul Mitchell and the scouting team.

Absolutely no problem with our approach and hope we keep unearthing a few gems. It's certainly a refreshing change to what we've been used to.
 
larkymasher said:
Sadly half the Scotland team doesn't equate to much.

That said, it would be very naive to think the Championship is any less than a very very competitive league. There is plenty of money being thrown at it and for that alone it is a major step up from L1.
That said i just have a feeling that most ( not all ) our players have enough about them to make that step up.

If we hit the ground running we will be a club with potentially Welsh, Irish and Scottish players going off on international duty by Christmas.
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There was an element of sarcasm in my comment.
 



For anyone thinking that we will struggle next season amongst the giants such as the almighty Wolves who can spend 13 million on one player (which is stupid), I give you Brentford - promoted 2014 in nowhere near as convincing fashion as we have been this year - then reached the play offs in their first season. You know Brentford, that big spending team with the huge stadium and millions of fans...
 
Gimli said:
For anyone thinking that we will struggle next season amongst the giants such as the almighty Wolves who can spend 13 million on one player (which is stupid), I give you Brentford - promoted 2014 in nowhere near as convincing fashion as we have been this year - then reached the play offs in their first season. You know Brentford, that big spending team with the huge stadium and millions of fans...
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Absolutely. Nobody is being naive here. Of course the Championship is highly competitive and has clubs with big money and quality players.

What the cap-doffers fail to acknowledge is:

1.There are plenty of relatively poor teams in there as well. I can think of at least five without troubling the alphabet beyond the letter 'B'.

2. You can spend big money foolishly as easily as you can wisely. Now then, who wants to take a penalty?

3. We will be spending ourselves (wisely, I suggest) at a decent level before kick-off.

4. The evidence is that we have a very good team already.

We'll be fine. Anyone who thinks we'll go down can make a good deal of money from me if they'd like a wager on it.
 
Pinchy said:
Ey up, pal. Leon here. I'll weigh in with over 200 games if you don't mind... :)
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If Evans and Sharp start, Clarke won't. Did miss off O'Connell as only played 16 games in Championship so not really had much Championship experience.
 
This may just be hopeful but reading between the lines i think we are just trying to nick players on the cheap at the moment who have good pedigree in the division below and are ready for the next level and are holding back on more expensive purchases on the basis of, if we splash 2m on a player now Southend will suddenly add another 500k on there valuation of Leonard etc.
 
MobileBlade said:
If Evans and Sharp start, Clarke won't. Did miss off O'Connell as only played 16 games in Championship so not really had much Championship experience.
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But it's a squad game sir....and as Wilder says they all have a part to play!

Large number of our current squad have experience of Championship and above.
 
Grizzly blade said:
But it's a squad game sir....and as Wilder says they all have a part to play!

Large number of our current squad have experience of Championship and above.
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Agree but I was replying to the original quote which we lacked experience and I was suggesting that 7 players who will potentially start are very experienced at that level. You can pick any 7.
 
Pinchy said:
Absolutely. Nobody is being naive here. Of course the Championship is highly competitive and has clubs with big money and quality players.

What the cap-doffers fail to acknowledge is:

1.There are plenty of relatively poor teams in there as well. I can think of at least five without troubling the alphabet beyond the letter 'B'.

2. You can spend big money foolishly as easily as you can wisely. Now then, who wants to take a penalty?

3. We will be spending ourselves (wisely, I suggest) at a decent level before kick-off.

4. The evidence is that we have a very good team already.

We'll be fine. Anyone who thinks we'll go down can make a good deal of money from me if they'd like a wager on it.
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Both your good self and Gimli have summarised perfectly. We already have good players, and ones who I think will not look out of place in the Championship. I watched the interview with Wilder and once again he made a perfect case for what he chooses to do. It was adult, it didn't pander to the infantile perspective that will only be satisfied if we go about our business by spending several million on a single player.

Wilder also alluded to changing times, where the spend and wage differentials will alter, "inevitable" was how Wilder described it. He clearly believes in maintaining a wage bill that doesn't swing too far this way or that, but he did accept that in time this will change. There's nothing complicated about Wilder's approach to signing a player, the money will take care of itself, but first and foremost the player has to want to play for the Blades, without that desire to play for United Wilder will look elsewhere.

And so it runs through everything else he said, easy to grasp reasons why he does what he does, and no arrogance or assumptions, just hard work, a clear and astute understanding of the game and what he expects, and from there it's down to the players to impress and achieve.
 
Grizzly blade said:
Yet another one comparing our team to that of another from previous seasons.

Listen....and listen good.
Bristol City battered their way out of the league, big and strong, set pieces...think Bolton!
We played good football, controlled possession, created chances a plenty from open play, and had an attacking system with encouragement from the manager to score goals.

Arrogant it may be...:but we are head and shoulders superior to Bristol....and for every Bristol that has struggled there has been a Barnsley that's done well (and might have done even better if they didn't sell Winall and Hourihane)

So stop with this negative shit, and knocking these players down. You talk about a "step up" like we are moving from non league to the premier league. The gap isn't that huge, and anyone who has spent any time at all watching football across the championship will know that, and anyone who has seen our team and knows a little bit about football can see we have several players capable of playing and doing well next season.

If we had gone up playing like Bolton then I would agree, but stop ignoring what is plain in your face.
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Not to mention the shower of shite that beat them 3-1 at their place!
 
FMBlade1 said:
Holmes is the wrong age, never played in the championship and will cost a relatively large amount of money and doesn't really fit into our present system.

Of course we all trust Wilder but that doesn't forgo the right to be skeptical. We are relying on an awful amount of players making the step up. For every Vardy there are around 5 Bogles
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Holmes doesn't fit into our current system FM? I think he would to be fair mate. Wilder tried to sign him last season but Holmes chose Charlton due to family location - I remember Wilder saying that. Holmes works his socks off, he's unusual in that although he's a flair player he puts in a shift too. In the current system of the 3-5-2 he'd play in the position that Duffy is currently the most picked option.

Moving onto Wilders contract situation, I went to bad last night slightly worried by the comments on here about Wilder not ruling out other jobs. Listened to it today and I was more reassured than what some were last night. He said he was 1 year into a three year contract. He didn't say I'm going nowhere, but by saying he's under contract with us is far different to the standard answer where managers say its just speculation, and he's concentrating on his job.

I do wish we'd give Wilder a new contract though! He deserves it!
 
Gimli said:
For anyone thinking that we will struggle next season amongst the giants such as the almighty Wolves who can spend 13 million on one player (which is stupid), I give you Brentford - promoted 2014 in nowhere near as convincing fashion as we have been this year - then reached the play offs in their first season. You know Brentford, that big spending team with the huge stadium and millions of fans...
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The big spending bit isn't far from the truth. Matthew Benham has put a huge amount of money into them.
 
FMBlade1 said:
Criticizing Wilder for signing Evans seems to be fair game on here, god forbid if its used to apply for anyone else
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Kin hell. And I thought I was a pessimist when it came to our club, but you definitely take the biscuit! BTW, I called the Evans signing a win, win for the club.
 
BushBlade said:
The big spending bit isn't far from the truth. Matthew Benham has put a huge amount of money into them.
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Yeah you're right he has, but their policy is to buy players who have sell on value - Andre gray, odebajo, hogan, tarkoswki, Bidwell, button for example.
But yeah I take your point. Although I don't think they've spent money that we would consider our of our range.
 
Wow I really seem to have struck a chord, but that's a good thing as that's what forums are all about :)

Sheffsteel Yes we were far better than Bristol City, but something no-one has mentioned is that the quality of the league this year has been extremely poor. There's an pattern that the teams who have managed to cope with the step up are the same ones who went up when the quality of the league was much better, so much so that we weren't able to go up ourselves back then xd We played very well as a team for sure, but the reason championship clubs didn't go in for Freeman for example was because of the skepticism whether he'd be able to cope in the league above.

I too of course do look forward to this season very much, I just think we should be wary and manage expectations. Doing that seems to get you accused of not watching us play or not being a 'proper' fan for some reason.

finlaytheblade Where am I being negative and fearful? I'm just being cautious and there is good reason to be for the reasons I've given

hello As it happens I don't think we will be in a relegation fight but wouldn't be surprised, some people are getting ahead of themselves

MobileBlade Moore hardly played, Basham didn't cut it, Freeman and Lafferty only appeared sporadically, Coutts was mostly injured, Evans was a very long time ago and can't rely on him for obvious reasons, Sharp I'll give you so that's one player.

Grizzly blade Fact is this season we haven't faced a single player who has the quality of Helder Costa, and we will face them week in week out next season, Abrahams, Hernandez etc. We will concede a fair few amount of goals that good management and team spirit can't litigate against and there's no telling how we'll react to that. Sharp's goal against the mighty Shrewsbury was the only one outside the box he scored, and I made a whole thread about Lafferty's goal against the titans of Rochdale.

EddieColquhoun Almost all those players you've listed were deemed surplus to requirements at championship clubs, or have been relegated with them

Maidenhead We have a great team spirit and gel really well, no-one is disputing that, but there is an undisputed step in quality and there's evidence to suggest that this season COULD be a struggle. I'm not talking us down or into trouble, just trying to be realistic

Pinchy I've watched this team just over a dozen times over this past year, granted not as much as most, yet my concerns remain. I have never stated that we don't have a good team or that the championship is full of giants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man When was the last time a team in the championship scored a goal with 17 passes beforehand? You simply don't get the time and space like that the higher you go in football.

Gimli That's a good example, but there's also MK Dons, I'm just saying we should be confident but wary, cautiously optimistic.

Booker4 Fair enough, I was under more of the impression that he was an attacking winger, whether he'd adapt to that role we'll have to wait and see. We already have Duffy and Carruthers there however, so is he really an improvement of what we already have?

Norderner Its funny whilst I was in 'the other place' I was accused of being a clapper xd its more of an aghast reaction to some on here thinking we could get promoted again, expectations are soaring and whilst I don't want to be a downer just want to ground things a bit

UTB as always, would be delighted to be proved wrong in what I've said
 



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