Chris Wilder says..........

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Suppose we already knew this but not from the horses mouth.

Sounds like the negotiations are ongoing, but will we sign both of them?
 
Holmes is the wrong age, never played in the championship and will cost a relatively large amount of money and doesn't really fit into our present system.

Of course we all trust Wilder but that doesn't forgo the right to be skeptical. We are relying on an awful amount of players making the step up. For every Vardy there are around 5 Bogles
 
Holmes is the wrong age, never played in the championship and will cost a relatively large amount of money and doesn't really fit into our present system.

Of course we all trust Wilder but that doesn't forgo the right to be skeptical. We are relying on an awful amount of players making the step up. For every Vardy there are around 5 Bogles
Bogle didn't exactly do terribly?
 
And yet only a year older than Ched

And what has that got to do with anything? I've said that if we're relying on Ched to score the goals to keep us in the championship that will be another major disappointment. Playing the poster not the post how tedious zz...
 
And what has that got to do with anything? I've said that if we're relying on Ched to score the goals to keep us in the championship that will be another major disappointment. Playing the poster not the post how tedious zz...

You seem determined to talk us into a relegation fight? There won't be one. We have very good players who together make a formidable team. I'm not tipping a double promotion but it's at least as likely as the doomsday scenario.
 
Aww bless.

As you were one of the bigger advocates for Evans return, I just wondered what difference a year makes?

No I wasn't one of the biggest advocates of his return WRONG

Why are you trying to turn this into a Ched thread?
 
You seem determined to talk us into a relegation fight? There won't be one. We have very good players who together make a formidable team. I'm not tipping a double promotion but it's at least as likely as the doomsday scenario.

Bristol City smashed the league a few years back and struggled afterwards. We're relying on an awful amount of players to make the step up and Wilder hasn't managed at their level yet.

Suppose saying we might find things difficult makes me less of a true Blade xd
 



Didn't quash any rumours re other managerial positions either.

To be fair, he will be wary that he's not going to put himself in a strong position to negotiate a new contract with McCabe, if he lets slip that he is currently in his dream job and wild horses wouldn't drag him away from the Lane, which I believe is probably not far from the truth ;)
 
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Bristol City smashed the league a few years back and struggled afterwards. We're relying on an awful amount of players to make the step up and Wilder hasn't managed at their level yet.

Suppose saying we might find things difficult makes me less of a true Blade xd

Steve Cotterill
 
Holmes is the wrong age, never played in the championship and will cost a relatively large amount of money and doesn't really fit into our present system.

Of course we all trust Wilder but that doesn't forgo the right to be skeptical. We are relying on an awful amount of players making the step up. For every Vardy there are around 5 Bogles

Kin spiders
 
Bristol City smashed the league a few years back and struggled afterwards. We're relying on an awful amount of players to make the step up and Wilder hasn't managed at their level yet.

Suppose saying we might find things difficult makes me less of a true Blade xd


Yet another one comparing our team to that of another from previous seasons.

Listen....and listen good.
Bristol City battered their way out of the league, big and strong, set pieces...think Bolton!
We played good football, controlled possession, created chances a plenty from open play, and had an attacking system with encouragement from the manager to score goals.

Arrogant it may be...:but we are head and shoulders superior to Bristol....and for every Bristol that has struggled there has been a Barnsley that's done well (and might have done even better if they didn't sell Winall and Hourihane)

So stop with this negative shit, and knocking these players down. You talk about a "step up" like we are moving from non league to the premier league. The gap isn't that huge, and anyone who has spent any time at all watching football across the championship will know that, and anyone who has seen our team and knows a little bit about football can see we have several players capable of playing and doing well next season.

If we had gone up playing like Bolton then I would agree, but stop ignoring what is plain in your face.
 
Yet another one comparing our team to that of another from previous seasons.

Listen....and listen good.
Bristol City battered their way out of the league, big and strong, set pieces...think Bolton!
We played good football, controlled possession, created chances a plenty from open play, and had an attacking system with encouragement from the manager to score goals.

Arrogant it may be...:but we are head and shoulders superior to Bristol....and for every Bristol that has struggled there has been a Barnsley that's done well (and might have done even better if they didn't sell Winall and Hourihane)

So stop with this negative shit, and knocking these players down. You talk about a "step up" like we are moving from non league to the premier league. The gap isn't that huge, and anyone who has spent any time at all watching football across the championship will know that, and anyone who has seen our team and knows a little bit about football can see we have several players capable of playing and doing well next season.

If we had gone up playing like Bolton then I would agree, but stop ignoring what is plain in your face.

We'll see, as always I would be delighted to be proved wrong, all I am saying is that I would take a 21st place finish but apparently that is a some kind of crime on here. If our players are so amazing why did none of them leave in January? I do know a lot about football and have seen this team many many times, my opinion differing from yours with regards to how we'll get on next season has nothing to do with that.

I'm not knocking the players, as you're surely too intelligent to realize (if not you are being overtly cynical which is beneath you) I'm simply pointing out that many of them are making a step up to the championship and they may not be able to cope.

There are players in the championship like Helder Costa who cost 13 million and play for lowly Wolves who score 35 yard screamers, have we got something to match that? Will Evans, Sharp Clarke etc score enough goals? Will Moore cope being under so much more pressure? And the full backs?

You're saying because we play a certain style we'll be fine. That's naive beyond parody
 
Didn't quash any rumours re other managerial positions either.

Wilder was being honest and I didn't expect any different.

He's not going to say I love it here and would never move anywhere no matter what.
Because if Man Utd sacked Mourinho, then came in and offered his £100K a year making him an instant millionaire then he would leave us and look silly because he had told us he'd never leave.

He know if massive/ stupid bids come in then all managers and players could be sold.

For example if a club bid 20 million for Fleck and 10 million for Bashambauer then off course both would be sold.
 
We'll see, as always I would be delighted to be proved wrong, all I am saying is that I would take a 21st place finish but apparently that is a some kind of crime on here. If our players are so amazing why did none of them leave in January? I do know a lot about football and have seen this team many many times, my opinion differing from yours with regards to how we'll get on next season has nothing to do with that.

I'm not knocking the players, as you're surely too intelligent to realize (if not you are being overtly cynical which is beneath you) I'm simply pointing out that many of them are making a step up to the championship and they may not be able to cope.

There are players in the championship like Helder Costa who cost 13 million and play for lowly Wolves who score 35 yard screamers, have we got something to match that? Will Evans, Sharp Clarke etc score enough goals? Will Moore cope being under so much more pressure? And the full backs?

You're saying because we play a certain style we'll be fine. That's naive beyond parody

I remember Bristol C from that season, last season we were a far far better outfit.
I've not seen any team as good as us at Bramall Lane in league 1 since we lost 0-3 to Huddersfield in 2012.

Put it this way. In the second half of the season we were head and shoulders better than the opposition including the other promoted sides Bolton and Millwall. Opposition forums consistently said we were the BEST team they had played all season and some even commented that we were the best team they'd seen at their place for a few years.

Personally I'd be really disapointed and shocked if we finished 21st.
Most experts, bookmakers and opposition fans have us down for mid table but Wilder appears to have the Midas Touch and I think we are dark horses for the playoffs, although being cautious I predict 10th.

Also regards your comment about "if the players were so amazing then why did none leave in Jan". The great thing last season if there were no stand out fantastic saleable assets, like in previous seasons.

It wasn't any individual player that was so amazing, it was the TEAM that was so amazing.
A club is hardly likely to buy all 11 of our first team players.
 
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FMBlade,

I do agree though that it may prove wise to be extra cautious like your good self.
We have very few players with Championship experience and a manager with no Championship experience.

Eventhough we were great last season, playing an expansive almost Barcelona-esque quick passing game we don't know whether attacking positive tactics will work. Just because a team ripped a league apart playing confident open attacking football doesn't always mean they can produce the same form In a higher league where players may close them down and stop their previous great play.

Sometimes its the pragmatic Nigel Clough type tactics that work better.
Clubs that play the physical organised Preston style might have a better chance of success in the CC.

That's why I'm looking forward to next season more than any other season in my 40 years watching the Blades because there's strong arguments why we could finish close to the playoffs and also strong arguments why we could finish near relegstion. Anything could happen.
 
We'll see, as always I would be delighted to be proved wrong, all I am saying is that I would take a 21st place finish but apparently that is a some kind of crime on here. If our players are so amazing why did none of them leave in January? I do know a lot about football and have seen this team many many times, my opinion differing from yours with regards to how we'll get on next season has nothing to do with that.

I'm not knocking the players, as you're surely too intelligent to realize (if not you are being overtly cynical which is beneath you) I'm simply pointing out that many of them are making a step up to the championship and they may not be able to cope.

There are players in the championship like Helder Costa who cost 13 million and play for lowly Wolves who score 35 yard screamers, have we got something to match that? Will Evans, Sharp Clarke etc score enough goals? Will Moore cope being under so much more pressure? And the full backs?

You're saying because we play a certain style we'll be fine. That's naive beyond parody
Sounds like championship is better than premiership
I hope the players are not as fearful as you
we go in with confidence and Beleafe ,Wilder will not tolerate negativity amongst the players.
He sure is strengthening the squad to have a go this season
 
You seem determined to talk us into a relegation fight? There won't be one. We have very good players who together make a formidable team. I'm not tipping a double promotion but it's at least as likely as the doomsday scenario.
Well said.
Remember the man Bassett?
Double promotion.
Wilder at right back. Deane up front.
 
We'll see, as always I would be delighted to be proved wrong, all I am saying is that I would take a 21st place finish but apparently that is a some kind of crime on here. If our players are so amazing why did none of them leave in January? I do know a lot about football and have seen this team many many times, my opinion differing from yours with regards to how we'll get on next season has nothing to do with that.

I'm not knocking the players, as you're surely too intelligent to realize (if not you are being overtly cynical which is beneath you) I'm simply pointing out that many of them are making a step up to the championship and they may not be able to cope.

There are players in the championship like Helder Costa who cost 13 million and play for lowly Wolves who score 35 yard screamers, have we got something to match that? Will Evans, Sharp Clarke etc score enough goals? Will Moore cope being under so much more pressure? And the full backs?

You're saying because we play a certain style we'll be fine. That's naive beyond parody


Anyone would take 21st place, but to suggest that as in some way saying you expect a long hard season and relegation struggle is unfounded.
Stating you have seen this side many times and know football looks silly when you then talk about an individual that cost 13million and wondering if some of our players will cope!
Of course they will cope, this fabled gap or "step up" is only a problem if the players lack ability and have relied on brawn and set pieces to score goals.
Several members of this squad have played there before and are merely returning to that division. Others have shown the necessary skills to be successful there too.

As for Wolves signing £13m Costa....good for them. Doesn't make him better than anyone else because some silly feckers paid over the odds for him. Jordan fucking Rhodes cost £10m and he's bang average. This isn't a football manager game, magical numbers aren't put against a player and a price put on them accordingly. There are many many players who move from lower league clubs up and do it with a club they have got promoted.
As for screamers....I wonder how far out Sharp was against Shrewsbury? That strike by Lafferty wasn't shabby against Rochdale....

Quite simply it's about more than players. We have bought expensive championship and premier league players in league one and they were shit. It's about the manager, and the players giving their all week in week out for him. Luckily, many of those players are already quite talented too.

Of our best side last season....Moore, Freeman, Lafferty, OConnell, Coutts, Sharp, Clarke, Duffy, Basham have all played Championship football or higher.
Fleck played in the Scottish Premier and the champions league for Rangers as a kid!!!
So tell me, why are these lads going to have a problem with this non step up?
 



Yet another one comparing our team to that of another from previous seasons.

Listen....and listen good.
Bristol City battered their way out of the league, big and strong, set pieces...think Bolton!
We played good football, controlled possession, created chances a plenty from open play, and had an attacking system with encouragement from the manager to score goals.

Arrogant it may be...:but we are head and shoulders superior to Bristol....and for every Bristol that has struggled there has been a Barnsley that's done well (and might have done even better if they didn't sell Winall and Hourihane)

So stop with this negative shit, and knocking these players down. You talk about a "step up" like we are moving from non league to the premier league. The gap isn't that huge, and anyone who has spent any time at all watching football across the championship will know that, and anyone who has seen our team and knows a little bit about football can see we have several players capable of playing and doing well next season.

If we had gone up playing like Bolton then I would agree, but stop ignoring what is plain in your face.
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