CONFIRMED Chris Wilder - new blades boss!

[Grecian2000]

Then I thought there must be a contingency plan.

I'm afraid your post fails right there.

Surely no-one actually expected a contingency plan of any kind, it would certainly go against everything we've learned about our club in the last few seasons.

 

[Grecian2000]

How about lets just give the new manager a bit of support and wait and see?

But we haven't got a new manager. We've got a rumour (which may well be true but no confirmation).

What is wrong with expressing an opinion NOW? Isn't that what places like this are for?

I'm absolutely certain Wilder will be given a better reception than Wilson if he's appointed. Until that time opinions are what it's about.

 

[OllyBlade]

I've been calm for 50 years mate. It's time for a bit of focused anger. I'm starting with useless managers and parochial, one dimensional supporters who can't see past the club badge.

I'm inclined to agree with you, but not so sure I see why you are so angry that he's got his managerial experience in the lower leagues? Much rather have someone who has worked under limited conditions than someone who can only walk into positions because of contacts. Taken this from an Oxford United forum -

Martin Allen has already turned it down, they are suffering financially. Chris Wilder imo would be a good appointment for them. He came to us when we were on our knees, and was pretty much an unknown quantity. However he's turned us into a football league club again, and some what steaded the ship. He would be a cheap option for them, and someone who know's what Sheffield United is all about, after having two playing spells there. He doesn't play HOOFball, and i think it could be good for both parties. I certainly fancy his chances, and im sure he will do much better than Mickey Adams.

Read more: http://www.yellowsforum.proboards.com/thread/14046/page/1/wilder-favourite-sheff-utd-job?page=4#ixzz2ShdyOsJM

There are certainly some Oxford fans there who would be happy to get rid of him but the situation between Oxford then and us now might stand him in good stead IF he were to be appointed. I wouldn't be over the moon if he were, but then again this is definitely not the kind of appointment to make me want to stop going and supporting the club. You've said it yourself Pinchy that you don't really know who the outstanding candidates are- but we have to appoint someone. A lot of people seem to me trying to suggest that he's had years of sustained failure as a manager but I can't see any disasters on his CV, he has steadily progressed up and achieved a few promotions. So as I said I do take your point but not so sure why you're convinced he'll be 'useless?'

 

[Torrix1889]

Odds drifting for Wilder slightly, now only 4/5 on. Southgate is the big mover today, in at 5/2....McCall at 10's....20/1 bar the rest

 

[blade too long]

much a Id love us to go to the lane and watch pretty , pass and move football, our sole objective next season is to get out of this division , and if someone comes in buys 11 cloggers who walk a fine line between tackling and gbh , but they get us up I wont care a jot, if we sling in high balls and win ugly in 40 games Ill be ecstatic

 

[Pinchy]

I'm inclined to agree with you, but not so sure I see why you are so angry that he's got his managerial experience in the lower leagues? Much rather have someone who has worked under limited conditions than someone who can only walk into positions because of contacts. Taken this from an Oxford United forum -



There are certainly some Oxford fans there who would be happy to get rid of him but the situation between Oxford then and us now might stand him in good stead IF he were to be appointed. I wouldn't be over the moon if he were, but then again this is definitely not the kind of appointment to make me want to stop going and supporting the club. You've said it yourself Pinchy that you don't really know who the outstanding candidates are- but we have to appoint someone. A lot of people seem to me trying to suggest that he's had years of sustained failure as a manager but I can't see any disasters on his CV, he has steadily progressed up and achieved a few promotions. So as I said I do take your point but not so sure why you're convinced he'll be 'useless?'

But you have it the wrong way round mate. The question is "What has he done to merit becoming manager of the Blades"? Answer - Nothing that would entitle him to a second glance if he were not ex-Blade Chris Wilder. His experience, on balance, is of achieving little or nothing in the lower leagues - that's not experience one should admire - it's failure by another name. If we were interested in ex-Melchester boss Frank Average with a record of achieving very little at, wait for it, Halifax and Oxford, over a 12 year period, and nothing at all in recent years, you'd rightly think we'd taken leave of our senses.

He's not a good manager. He's proved that where it matters. His team has just finished 9th in Division Four, for heaven's sake! Shall we interview Mickey Adams, Steve Evans, Mark Yates, Paul Cook? No, and no-one suggests we should.

Wilder has demonstrated he is a run of the mill lower league manager. We've had them before - they are useless.

The appointment of Wilder would be throwing in the towel at the end of the 11th round. I have already bought my season ticket but I too have been a Blade Too Long. If its Wilder, fine - those of you who delight in mediocrity can enjoy a little bit more. I shall be on the golf course perfecting my 70-90 yard pitching. I shall tell the chairman why.

 

[Pinchy]

But we haven't got a new manager. We've got a rumour (which may well be true but no confirmation).

What is wrong with expressing an opinion NOW? Isn't that what places like this are for?

I'm absolutely certain Wilder will be given a better reception than Wilson if he's appointed. Until that time opinions are what it's about.

I wouldn't be so sure about that mate! I'm organising a "Trilbies On, Cigars lit" car park protest as we speak.

 

[blade too long]

Wilder is inadequate in every aspect we are looking to fulfil
he ticks one box , he played for us, that is all Morgans got
again not what we need right now

from wikkipee
"
In their first season back in the Football League in four years, Wilder guided Oxford to safety. The team finished 12th, in the top half of the table, their highest finish in seven years.[8] The next season Oxford finished ninth, after poor form late in the season led to the team dropping out of the play-off position they had occupied for most of the year.[9] Oxford's chairman Kelvin Thomas gave Wilder his backing, meaning he would remain manager for the 2012–13 season.[10] Despite failing to achieve a play-off place again in Oxford's third season back in the League, and intense speculation about his future at the club, Wilder was offered and accepted a further one-year contract for the 2013–14 season.[11]"
So hes signed to another year there , thank goodness

 

[TAMUS]

The Bookies know how to play us mugs better than the Chairman.

 

[OllyBlade]

But you have it the wrong way round mate. The question is "What has he done to merit becoming manager of the Blades"? Answer - Nothing that would entitle him to a second glance if he were not ex-Blade Chris Wilder. His experience, on balance, is of achieving little or nothing in the lower leagues - that's not experience one should admire - it's failure by another name. If we were interested in ex-Melchester boss Frank Average with a record of achieving very little at, wait for it, Halifax and Oxford, over a 12 year period, and nothing at all in recent years, you'd rightly think we'd taken leave of our senses.

He's not a good manager. He's proved that where it matters. His team has just finished 9th in Division Four, for heaven's sake! Shall we interview Mickey Adams, Steve Evans, Mark Yates, Paul Cook? No, and no-one suggests we should.

Wilder has demonstrated he is a run of the mill lower league manager. We've had them before - they are useless.

The appointment of Wilder would be throwing in the towel at the end of the 11th round. I have already bought my season ticket but I too have been a Blade Too Long. If its Wilder, fine - those of you who delight in mediocrity can enjoy a little bit more. I shall be on the golf course perfecting my 70-90 yard pitching. I shall tell the chairman why.

Yep it's good you don't "delight in mediocrity" but it's very hard to find a manager who will 100% be a success. Just trying to debate the names that do come up. I agree with you about the parochialism of just looking at Wilder because he has the Blades crest tattooed on his arse, or whatever, but equally it is counter productive to dismiss certain kinds of experience/achievement and from what I can tell the BSP is a shitty league to get out of even if you are a big club and he got Oxford out of it and then stabilised in the division above. Before you go apeshit on me I AGREE WITH YOU. We can do better.

 

[blade too long]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22292993

 

[Flakey]

I drove through Oxford this morning, local radio says 'nothing doing', speculation is all down to Yorkshire Press.

Mind you if their traffic news is anything to go by, they know Jack Sh*t

 

[Pinchy]

I wouldn't go 'apeshit' on you, mate. You seem to be a sensible chap who expresses himself well. I was not suggesting that you necessarily tolerate mediocrity either - just a generic reference.

I have strong views and express them accordingly. I get equally strong views fired back at me and that's great.

 

[Pinchy]

I drove through Oxford this morning, local radio says 'nothing doing', speculation is all down to Yorkshire Press.

Mind you if their traffic news is anything to go by, they know Jack Sh*t

I hope they don't tell McCabe about him! He'll be in the job by Friday.

 

[Bradford Blade]

...Mind you if their traffic news is anything to go by, they know Jack Sh*t

Trafficing of 'managers'

UTB!

 

[Crouchy]

I drove through Oxford this morning, local radio says 'nothing doing', speculation is all down to Yorkshire Press.

Mind you if their traffic news is anything to go by, they know Jack Sh*t

You should have come off the ring road at the Iffley Road roundabout and come through Sandford and Littlemore. That's what I did

 

[Ted Danson]

McCalls favourite now at evens

 

[blade too long]

stuart mccall , ex blade took a club to a champions league place would be far more enthusiastic about that

 

[Pinchy]

McCalls favourite now at evens

He wouldn't be many people's first choice but equally few would be hugely disappointed. If its him or Wilder, sit down Stuart, make yourself at home!

He doesn't set the pulse racing but at least he'd keep me off the golf course and save me writing to the chairman.

He was a proper footballer. I do hope he has carried those principles into management. Anyone in the know about Motherwell?

 

[Ted Danson]

Ive been thinking it will be McCall since there was a big article in the Star saying it definitely wouldn't be him. I would rather him than Wilder but it wouldnt get me really excited. Thing is I dont see anyone realistically that will get me excited

 

[Bergen Blade]

It's fair to say there are positives and negatives to any appointment - but let's be honest here - Chris Wilder would be an absolute measure of our fall into obscurity, rather than a calculated judgement of an appointment.

He "might" prove to be a good manager, in the same way as you might. There is insufficient evidence to make a decision on either of you - so why take that risk?

Sadly, in this case it would be because he's cheap, available and Pinchy is right, a Blade. Nothing else.

UTB

There's nothing dishonest about what I've written. Regardless of whether I personally want him as manager or not, I am interested in knowing what type of football a managerial candidate stands for.

 

[KenMcnaughtsNuts]

a few neverton fans saying on twitter they want mccall as their manager.

bit surprising. i dont really think hes good enough for us. though if it were him or wilder thered be no contest, at least mccall has a decent cv. cant really call spending 5 years trying to get oxford promoted, but not getting anywhere near it, much of an accomplishment. would he come here though? surely not?

 

[alcoblade]

There's nothing dishonest about what I've written. Regardless of whether I personally want him as manager or not, I am interested in knowing what type of football a managerial candidate stands for.

Of course "let's be honest" is a figure of speech, which possibly doesn't translate well. But back on topic;

"You need to calm down. There are positives and negatives connected with any appointment. If Wilder tries to get his team playing good attacking football that is better than if he was thought to be negative and one dimensional."

I am suggesting that there are FAR more negatives to the potential appointment of Wilder than positives, that's all. His style of management is interesting to me too, but much less so than any proof that it has translated into some success.



UTB

 

[JohnDenver]

I am suggesting that there are FAR more negatives to the potential appointment of Wilder than positives, that's all. His style of management is interesting to me too, but much less so than any proof that it has translated into some success.

Success is a relative concept. Without having a scooby what sort of constraints Wilder worked under in his previous jobs, I wouldn't like to judge him.

Not that he's my choice, but you know what I'm getting at...

 

[judge]

i remember being bitterly disapointed when wildon got the job ,not because hes an ex pig i just thought he was the cheap option
people like ollesondro and micalijo mocked me for getting emotional but the truth is ive never supported the blades in the same way since then and i cant see the next manager being anything other than an underwhelming appointment hired simply to get the wage bill down and with no expectation of promotion or building anything for the future

if i had a son ,no way would i take him to a blades game and put him through what ive been through the last few decades

 

[sitwell]

Surely McCall played for us and therefore Pinchy will have to hate him ,'McCawful' there Ive done it for you. Who gives 2 shits whether these guys have played for Utd or not ,you are so full of contradictions. McCall failed at Bradford ,arguably a worse job than Wilder has done ,he has less experience ,was a better player ,so was Robson. Has managed in the micky mouse one team league that is the SPL ,Murphy should highlight the standards in that league. So tell me what has McCall got over Wilder ?

As an aside ,I will get behind whoever we appoint ,I would love Coyle ,as long as it isnt Blackwell or Megson.

 

[ListerBlade]

I wouldn't mind him, he is in the mould of what we should be looking at as others have mentioned but I find it hard to think of any reasonable option that I can be excited about. I think unless something incredibly special happens, the next appointment will be received with a shrug of the shoulders and a pessimistic outlook on the future.

 

[VolcanicAsh]

His Oxford record isn't that bad...

• Played: 235
• Won: 106
• Drawn 59
• Lost: 70

Still would prefer someone like McCall

 

[alcoblade]

Success is a relative concept. Without having a scooby what sort of constraints Wilder worked under in his previous jobs, I wouldn't like to judge him.

Not that he's my choice, but you know what I'm getting at...

I agree entirely mate, but then again, I could say that about Morgan, or Bergs, or you. Have we fallen so low that we appoint bloke who's done nothing good, or bad, but possibly might have done if he'd had some resource? Surely we should at least ask for a bit more?

UTB

 

[Blade58]

He would also be well in tune to the fans way of thinking. He wouldnt put up with players not giving there all ,he is a strong character doesnt suffer fools and plays entertaining football. Given the tools I think it could work.

S0 ..................... when does Micky Adams start then?