Chris Wilder is no Dinosaur

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I am in no hurry to tout Wilder for other people’s posts, but given the Blades’ flying start back in the top flight, I have to ask the question.
How long is it before Chris Wilder gets a crack at one of the top jobs?
If he was in charge of a side playing with such style and a mean defensive record in Europe, clubs over here would be falling over themselves to land him.

He already has a top job, thanks anyway Robbie.
 
Robbie Savage

NA NA NA NA, he’s a blade and he’s a blade

I was watching most of the Man Utd v Partizan Belgrade Europa League match last night.

Early in the 2nd half there was a long break in play due to an injury.
Robbie Savage was one of the commentators and to pass time him and his fellow commentator talked about the surprises in the PL.
They talked about how Man Utd and Spurs had had surprisingly poor starts then Savage said

”then you have another surprise package in Sheffield United. They were everyone’s prediction to finish bottom but are currently 6th” then he said

“I’ve even heard some football critics say they play basic football and are a direct long ball team, which is absolutely ridiculous”

When he said this....I smiled....as I think he was referring to to the Garth Crookes comments about us.
 
I am in no hurry to tout Wilder for other people’s posts, but given the Blades’ flying start back in the top flight, I have to ask the question.
How long is it before Chris Wilder gets a crack at one of the top jobs?
If he was in charge of a side playing with such style and a mean defensive record in Europe, clubs over here would be falling over themselves to land him.

He already has a top job, thanks anyway Robbie.

This has already been discussed.....there’s a big snobbery in the PL.
When anyone suggests Wilder for a top job..the fans of those clubs burst into laughter with the comments they’d rather have Gene Wilder or Van Wilder as manager.
Everton have done a poll on their main site. There was a list of 20 potential mangers, less than 1% of their fan base voted to appoint Wilder.

Fortunately for us the top clubs wouldn't touch Wilder with a barge pole and unless we reach the later stages of the Champions League I don’t think it will change.
 
This has already been discussed.....there’s a big snobbery in the PL.
When anyone suggests Wilder for a top job..the fans of those clubs burst into laughter with the comments they’d rather have Gene Wilder or Van Wilder as manager.
Everton have done a poll on their main site. There was a list of 20 potential mangers, less than 1% of their fan base voted to appoint Wilder.

Fortunately for us the top clubs wouldn't touch Wilder with a barge pole and unless we reach the later stages of the Champions League I don’t think it will change.
long may it continue.. by the time they realise how good he is we’ll be a big team ourselves
 
Wish pundits would shut up about "Top jobs" because they don't know what one is.

They were touting Brendan Rodgers for the Arsenal job on Sky the other day, as if Leicester isn't a top job. On for a top 4 finish, great squad, won the league a couple of years ago, in comparison to Arsenal, crap squad apart from the strikers, toxic entitled fans. He'd be mad to go there.

Wilder has the top job right now, whilever he's backed that'll remain the case.

They should respect the clubs managers are at.
 
Robbie Savage

NA NA NA NA, he’s a blade and he’s a blade

I think your predictive text is playing up,

The correct answer is

"NA NA NA NA, he's a twat and he's a twat"

He's got on board with the 'Wider is a genius' zeitgeist and is earning some corn with it. He is not, and never has been, at the cutting edge of football analysis. I listen to a lot of R5L and he loves shcmoozing with Alan 'complete twat' Green*, talking about the neighbouring Cheshire towns they live in. Don't get me wrong, he's not daft and is no Danny Mills, but he isn't that perceptive either.

Think about when you've actually seen him on the pitch. Your abiding memory has to be that he's a twat. You are right in that. He's a twat.


* Uber-twat-Green spends most of his time complaining about the fee paying punters who happen to be in front of him. Moaning about them standing up (in order to queue 10 minutes before half time for a pie). We don't all get paid £750 to attend a game and get free food in a warm lounge, you sponging parasitic twat.
 
long may it continue.. by the time they realise how good he is we’ll be a big team ourselves

Agree......our 1st season back in the top flight just shows how brain washed, influenced and stupid most football fans are.
It’s like in the story “The Emporers New Clothes”, if you repeat something enough, doesn’t matter how stupid or unreasonable it is
then it becomes true and accepted by virtually everyone.

The Arsenal fan Hughwizzy talks about it on his YouTube channel.
He says how some of the football experts can’t have done any research because in early matches they say Sheff Utd are a basic long ball side.
This Arsenal fan says if Wilder was foreign the media would be lauding him as a tactical genius regards his overlapping centre backs.
He also says he’s watched us and can’t see what these supposed experts have been watching because he says we play neat passing football.

For example most PL fans judge ability based on transfer fee and cost.
So they prefer an expensive big name that’s plays poorly compared to an unknown player who performs brilliantly.
At the moment no fans of other clubs would take any of our players apart from maybe Mousset because most are classed as cheap and nasty.
They prefer a good looking foreign player even if he’s crap compared to a plain looking over weight English manager.
and if that English manager has a strong northern accent then it’s a definite no..no..

As I say the snobbery of the average PL fan means we’ll be able to keep Wilder much longer.
Really think he‘s got to win honours with us and/ or get into Europe before any PL club shows interest.
 
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Wish pundits would shut up about "Top jobs" because they don't know what one is.....

They should respect the clubs managers are at.

They can't stop themselves thinking about the 'big 6'.

Witness the wankfest over Fat Frank's amazing season keeping Chelsea out of the relegation zone. A club with an unbelievably good academy and some top players who had an underachieving season last year. Suddenly Fat Frank is god's gift to footie. Did anyone bother watching how out of his depth he was at Derby? He had no answer to us at the Lane and he managed to finish one place and one point lower than Gary Rowett. Is Rowett regarded as a genius and the future of the English game? No, of course not, but it seems shit doesn't stick to our FF.

Arsenal are still 'top 4' lazily based on the Wenger years. They will finish this year below Leicester and whilst personally I think Rodgers is a posturing tosspot, I still have to admit he is a good manager of a team on the up (a certain Nigel Adkins springs to mind).

Basically the media are full of unimaginative tosspots. Not all of them, but plenty still toe the shitty old party lines. Long may it remain so, with 'Dinosaur Chris' under the radar.
 



Agree......our 1st season back in the top flight just shows how brain washed, influenced and stupid most football fans are.
It’s like in the story “The Emporers New Clothes”, if you repeat something enough, doesn’t matter how stupid or unreasonable it is
then it becomes true and accepted by virtually everyone.

The Arsenal fan Hughwizzy talks about it on his YouTube channel.
He says how some of the football experts can’t have done any research because in early matches they say Sheff Utd are a basic long ball side.
This Arsenal fan says if Wilder was foreign the media would be lauding him as a tactical genius regards his overlapping centre backs.
He also says he’s watched us and can’t see what these supposed experts have been watching because he says we play neat passing football.

For example most PL fans judge ability based on transfer fee and cost.
So they prefer an expensive big name that’s plays poorly compared to an unknown player who performs brilliantly.
At the moment no fans of other clubs would take any of our players apart from maybe Mousset because most are classed as cheap and nasty.
They prefer a good looking foreign player even if he’s crap compared to a plain looking over weight English manager.
and if that English manager has a strong northern accent then it’s a definite no..no..

As I say the snobbery of the average PL fan means we’ll be able to keep Wilder much longer.
Really think he‘s got to win honours with us and/ or get into Europe before any PL club shows interest.
‘football manager’ (game) generation.. think success == player value
had to laugh at OGS saying ‘top 4 team has to win here’.. you’re not top 4 mate :D
 
I like Robbie Savage and to his credit he watches the Championship and knows who's who and what's what in that division. He's not jumping on the bandwagon.

As for Lampard, I'll give him some credit as he is doing a great job at Chelsea. They're playing good football, the youngsters are becoming their stand out players and Abraham is having a better season than most expected. They're downfall will be their ropey defence as they have a cavalier Keegan style approach to games. You score two, we'll score three. He's not God's gift to management but he is doing a fine job and it's not his fault that the media cream themselves over him. Both as a player and manager he's let the football on the pitch do the talking for him and he conducts himself very well in the media.
 
This will not be a popular opinion here, but I think on achievements Eddie Howe is in front of Wilder. He has done it for a number of seasons now after taking Bournemouth up.
Having said that, I don't think either him or Wilder will be in line for "big job" anytime soon. I do think Wilder will prove to be a better manager than smug Eddie, think we have to acknowledge that currently.
Someone above mentions that by the time Wilder is approached by a big club, we will be a big club. I was thinking exactly the same thoughts this morning.
 
Though in the comments section below the article.


An English manager has done a half decent job for 11 matches. Let's pretend he's the second coming of Christ.

Love a little jealousy.
 
This will not be a popular opinion here, but I think on achievements Eddie Howe is in front of Wilder. He has done it for a number of seasons now after taking Bournemouth up.
Having said that, I don't think either him or Wilder will be in line for "big job" anytime soon. I do think Wilder will prove to be a better manager than smug Eddie, think we have to acknowledge that currently.
Someone above mentions that by the time Wilder is approached by a big club, we will be a big club. I was thinking exactly the same thoughts this morning.
Wonder how significant it may be, should others consider making a move for Wilder, that Howe clearly failed when he went to Burnley and appears to have his niche at Bournemouth. I'm hoping the boards of those established prem clubs will take this view - should they push their incumbent out.
 
Wonder how significant it may be, should others consider making a move for Wilder, that Howe clearly failed when he went to Burnley and appears to have his niche at Bournemouth. I'm hoping the boards of those established prem clubs will take this view - should they push their incumbent out.
Is it really that relevant? Howe couldn’t settle in Burnley but did sign some of the players that got them promoted. Rodgers bombed at Reading and you could say he ‘failed’ at Liverpool. I’ve already heard pundits suggesting him for the Arsenal job, as I have Eddie Howe.
I can only think of two ‘modern’ managers who’ve been in the game for a substantial amount of time and never been sacked and one of those retired about six years ago.
 
Witness the wankfest over Fat Frank's amazing season keeping Chelsea out of the relegation zone. A club with an unbelievably good academy and some top players who had an underachieving season last year. Suddenly Fat Frank is god's gift to footie. Did anyone bother watching how out of his depth he was at Derby? He had no answer to us at the Lane and he managed to finish one place and one point lower than Gary Rowett. Is Rowett regarded as a genius and the future of the English game? No, of course not, but it seems shit doesn't stick to our FF.

I share the opinion that the job Lampard did at Derby didn't warrant the media attention it got. In his defence, you could say he maintained the position that Derby were in under Rowett, while simultaneously reducing the budget and blooding youngsters, but I'm not sure that justifies him getting the Chelsea job.

I have to play devils advocate though, as I think he's doing a good job at Chelsea. He inherited a side in a transfer embargo, yet has managed to plug the gaps with academy graduates and returning loanees. Chelsea do have a great academy, but Lampard is seemingly the only manager they've ever had able to utilise this. He's turned Mount, Abraham and Tomori from championship players, to players that don't look out of place in the Champions League.

To me, that's impressive, though the most impressive thing is how he's coped with the loss of Hazard. To (so far) maintain their position in the PL, despite losing one of the worlds best players, who was responsible (goals & assists) for 43% of their goals last season is no mean feat, in my opinion.

Still not fit to place Wilder's boots obviously, but who is?
 
This has already been discussed.....there’s a big snobbery in the PL.
When anyone suggests Wilder for a top job..the fans of those clubs burst into laughter with the comments they’d rather have Gene Wilder or Van Wilder as manager.
Everton have done a poll on their main site. There was a list of 20 potential mangers, less than 1% of their fan base voted to appoint Wilder.

Fortunately for us the top clubs wouldn't touch Wilder with a barge pole and unless we reach the later stages of the Champions League I don’t think it will change.

If Wilder got us to the champions league why the fuck would he ever go somewhere else?

Us and him would have enough dosh to keep both happy, there would never be any reason for him to leave BDTBL if he pulled that off.
 
If Wilder got us to the champions league why the fuck would he ever go somewhere else?

Us and him would have enough dosh to keep both happy, there would never be any reason for him to leave BDTBL if he pulled that off.

What if he has aspirations to win the Champions League?
 
Is it really that relevant? Howe couldn’t settle in Burnley but did sign some of the players that got them promoted. Rodgers bombed at Reading and you could say he ‘failed’ at Liverpool. I’ve already heard pundits suggesting him for the Arsenal job, as I have Eddie Howe.
I can only think of two ‘modern’ managers who’ve been in the game for a substantial amount of time and never been sacked and one of those retired about six years ago.
Actually, that’s bollocks, I don’t think Klopp, Poch or Guardiola have been sacked either.
 



Agree......our 1st season back in the top flight just shows how brain washed, influenced and stupid most football fans are.
It’s like in the story “The Emporers New Clothes”, if you repeat something enough, doesn’t matter how stupid or unreasonable it is
then it becomes true and accepted by virtually everyone.

The Arsenal fan Hughwizzy talks about it on his YouTube channel.
He says how some of the football experts can’t have done any research because in early matches they say Sheff Utd are a basic long ball side.
This Arsenal fan says if Wilder was foreign the media would be lauding him as a tactical genius regards his overlapping centre backs.
He also says he’s watched us and can’t see what these supposed experts have been watching because he says we play neat passing football.

For example most PL fans judge ability based on transfer fee and cost.
So they prefer an expensive big name that’s plays poorly compared to an unknown player who performs brilliantly.
At the moment no fans of other clubs would take any of our players apart from maybe Mousset because most are classed as cheap and nasty.
They prefer a good looking foreign player even if he’s crap compared to a plain looking over weight English manager.
and if that English manager has a strong northern accent then it’s a definite no..no..

As I say the snobbery of the average PL fan means we’ll be able to keep Wilder much longer.
Really think he‘s got to win honours with us and/ or get into Europe before any PL club shows interest.

There's much in your post that I hope is correct......but...can't quite work out the 'good looking foreign player' example, surely any club would want a player whose looks were on the 'ordinary' side yet a proven success rather than a good looking piece of mediocrity? If any supporters can't see why Stevens isn't comparable with the best left backs in this division then they're clueless. Same goes for our central back three of Egan, O'Connell and Basham, as sound a defensive unit as you'll find anywhere. wilder has gone back to basics, defence first, our midfield takes care of itself and can compete with the best this division has to offer (I might need to qualify that comment but so far we've looked capable and able to threaten the opposition, and if there's one area that needs addressing it's the one we've spent heavily (by our standards) on, which is attack. I'm sure Wilder had higher hopes for the new recruits but so far they've underwhelmed and need to get their act together when the opportunities arise. The one exception to this seems to be Mousset, so not all doom and gloom.

Agree about the snobbery of many supporters and their clubs, there seems to be a view, a misplaced one I should add, that suggests that to be able to deliver you need the silky skills of a foreign player to justify your existence. Not sure how this was arrived at, but there are plenty of British players who are better than average, yet somehow they seem to suffer from this prejudice that burdens them with the view that they simply aren't good enough.

Wilder has assembled astutely, been financially savvy in his recruitment, and has shown (I must add that the input of his colleagues would have been critical) he's been more than able in deciding who was purchased. Apart from a few players who, for whatever reason, haven't made the grade, we've shown that a price tag isn't the key factor in who we bring is. It's only been this season, at least by our standards, that we've 'flashed the cash', so I suspect that Wilder will have learnt a great deal from this experience and will ensure that this is one area that needs strengthening when recruiting in future. The overall conclusion is that the drive and purpose of our manager is what has enabled us to go from strength to strength, with no sign of anyone connected with the club being allowed to lose that sense of realism and purpose.

We're in exceptional (yes, you read right) hands, and as far as I can tell, as long as the directors of this cub match the manager's desire and drive that we'll continue to push forward. No complaints, and probably the best time to follow this club as far as I can recall. It doesn't matter whether you agree or disagree with my summation, just consider all of the above in the context of the modern game, the desperation that seems to have gripped clubs who long to belong on the Premier Division, and the anxiety that seems to follow if a club, any club, lose a few games on the trot, and it's this that we should be mindful of. Don't panic if we lose a few, just allow our manager and his team to do what they seem very good at and tackle whatever comes their way. It's only a few years since I recall wondering if we'd ever get out of the trap of belonging to that rung of lower league clubs who couldn't escape their fate of travelling around the map of clubs who seem to drain the life out of clubs like United (no disrespect meant, but with our support and infrastructure it was abysmal that we underachieved so miserably)..........so here we are, our first season back in the top tier, and so far doing pretty well. I guess that once everything settles we'll see just how well we've done. At a guess I'd settle for mid to lower-mid Prem status, which would be little short of superb considering the journey we've been on these last few years.

Up the Blades I must add, we've still got a mountain to climb, but there's no need for despondency, in fact optimism and belief should be the things that we embrace between now and the end of this season.......oh, did I say how fucking delighted I am with how things are going so far?
 

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