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What is absolutely crucial now is that neither Anel or Souza are sold. We are down to the bare bones and we just don't seem capable of getting enough players through the door. So to sell existing ones would be foolishness of the highest order.

If Moore is fit for next Friday we can still put a decent first 11 out even with Davies in goal and no right back. If we lose either of the above 2 players we are in deep shit. The first 2 games are winnable and 6pts would change all our moods. Lose them and its going to get really toxic.

The owner is going nowhere short term so we are going to have to put up with him. We have to hope that we can pull a few loans out of the hat and that eventually Cooper, Worrall, a right back and a forward come through the door.

You do know that Anel, Souza and Hamer will be sold one day before the window closes, conveniently leaving us with no time to replace them.

It is a Sheffield United trick that has been used often so that the club can deliberately show its absolute disdain for its supporters

In fact it wouldn't surprise me if deals had been done already but the club has asked the buying clubs to wait a while and offer them a discount to wait so that United can really stick the dagger through everyone's hearts.

Strangely enough all of them will develop a couple of niggles between now and next Friday

Wilder will then walk again leaving us managerless, playerless, and boardroomless, and eventually sensible fanless.
 

You do know that Anel, Souza and Hamer will be sold one day before the window closes, conveniently leaving us with no time to replace them.

It is a Sheffield United trick that has been used often so that the club can deliberately show its absolute disdain for its supporters

In fact it wouldn't surprise me if deals had been done already but the club has asked the buying clubs to wait a while and offer them a discount to wait so that United can really stick the dagger through everyone's hearts.

Strangely enough all of them will develop a couple of niggles between now and next Friday

Wilder will then walk again leaving us managerless, playerless, and boardroomless, and eventually sensible fanless.
But other than that it's not too bad yeah? 😄
 
Yes, frustrated and probably tired on the evening, but I didn't see anyone who was 'broken' or about to walk away any time soon. That's just people peddling nonsense on here either through their own agenda's, or maybe because they just like to worry about all and everything as it gives them purpose in life. People see what they want to see in his interview's. I just saw a man who wants to crack on with his job.
Aye, personally, I read the thread last night thinking 'Oh shit here we go', expecting another of 'those' Wilder or Heckingbottom interviews that reeked of doom.

I've just watched it and that's not what I saw. He sounds frustrated but we'd want him to sound frustrated in the circumstances... I don't think he really sounded like he's blaming anyone, just that he's frustrated that the players haven't come in yet, and however you look at it, his hands are tied. Any of us would feel like that but he didn't seem to be sulking or broken to me, just wanting to crack on.
 
Aye, personally, I read the thread last night thinking 'Oh shit here we go', expecting another of 'those' Wilder or Heckingbottom interviews that reeked of doom.

I've just watched it and that's not what I saw. He sounds frustrated but we'd want him to sound frustrated in the circumstances... I don't think he really sounded like he's blaming anyone, just that he's frustrated that the players haven't come in yet, and however you look at it, his hands are tied. Any of us would feel like that but he didn't seem to be sulking or broken to me, just wanting to crack on.
It's the bedwetters Raimond !😏😏👍
 
Why is Bettis not being put on the transfer list ? For what he’s contributed to this shit show he should be first one out !
Come on Bettis show yourself. Crawl out of that hole you are hiding in 🤬
 
Why is Bettis not being put on the transfer list ? For what he’s contributed to this shit show he should be first one out !
Come on Bettis show yourself. Crawl out of that hole you are hiding in 🤬
Not really sure what he’s meant to say to be honest. No strong opinion on Bettis. Speaks well when he does communicate, without knowing the inner workings of the club my sense is he’s a competent individual dealing with a lot of incompetence around him.
 
You do know that Anel, Souza and Hamer will be sold one day before the window closes, conveniently leaving us with no time to replace them.

It is a Sheffield United trick that has been used often so that the club can deliberately show its absolute disdain for its supporters

In fact it wouldn't surprise me if deals had been done already but the club has asked the buying clubs to wait a while and offer them a discount to wait so that United can really stick the dagger through everyone's hearts.

Strangely enough all of them will develop a couple of niggles between now and next Friday

Wilder will then walk again leaving us managerless, playerless, and boardroomless, and eventually sensible fanless.
You must be one of the biggest wind up merchants on here, what a load of made up rubbish.
 
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You do know that Anel, Souza and Hamer will be sold one day before the window closes, conveniently leaving us with no time to replace them.

It is a Sheffield United trick that has been used often so that the club can deliberately show its absolute disdain for its supporters

In fact it wouldn't surprise me if deals had been done already but the club has asked the buying clubs to wait a while and offer them a discount to wait so that United can really stick the dagger through everyone's hearts.

Strangely enough all of them will develop a couple of niggles between now and next Friday

Wilder will then walk again leaving us managerless, playerless, and boardroomless, and eventually sensible fanless.
Have you ever considered a career in motivational speaking
 
He looks and sounds utterly fed up which is ironic considering the amount of money he wasted on rubbish transfers like Brewster and McBurnie after our first promotion.
 
Darren Smith is a cunt. Pass it on.
Whilst I wouldn't wish to use such terminology, he certainly isn't a helpful actor when it comes to club 'comms'. I think we would do well to bear in mind the correspondence from Bettis that was shared a few weeks ago, where he referred to his dislike of social media and that there were one or 2 in particular who had their own agendas. I can only assume one of these was Smith.
 

Whilst I wouldn't wish to use such terminology, he certainly isn't a helpful actor when it comes to club 'comms'. I think we would do well to bear in mind the correspondence from Bettis that was shared a few weeks ago, where he referred to his dislike of social media and that there were one or 2 in particular who had their own agendas. I can only assume one of these was Smith.

Indeed. I've no idea whether his online presence is something partially agreed between himself and PA, whether he's just a PA lap dog, or if he's just an attention seeker.

Either way his constant messaging isn't helpful. It's easy to say ignore him but so many fans hang on his word and feed his ego.

His flounces and victimhood are utterly embarrassing too.

I wonder if he lived locally and regularly attended games, if he'd carry on the same.
 
A lot of guesswork going on here! has the takeover failed ! No money to bring in loans or free transfers!?.
Wilder looked hassled not had time for a shit shave or haircut it seemed like.
It's obvious things haven't gone to plan this week as no recruits , if we have lost Hoover to a late intervention by Stoke that's OK as he wasn't buying into us if that's true.
Bedwetters taking over this site which is a shame!
Are things that bad? We know where the weaknesses are and have time to bring players in.
Bedwetters have a shower and change your pants !!!
With respect, I find that post very patronising.

None of us know enough to be right or wrong. And anyone who shows even a shred of doubt is labelled a bedwetter by people who think they know better.

The fact is that last season was an embarrassment, we were wiped the floor with on a regular basis.

Another fact is that we start the season on minus two points, and it could have been much more if we had fought it.

Now we’re onto opinions. And my two pennorth is that the boardroom stuff has dragged on.

Yes we’ve made some decent signings all things considered. But in terms of numbers and cover, we need more.

Another opinion and absolutely a hill I’ll die on, we need a decent keeper. And please don’t anyone comeback at me and say Grbic and Davies are internationals. They technically are, but think back to when we thought Darren Ward was coming. He’s a first choice for Wales and none of us wanted him. I could quality for Wales on the basis that I’ve seen the chimps at Colwyn Bay Zoo.

Grbic being back up to Jan Oblak is a genuine puzzle to me, he demonstrably is nowhere near good enough.

There’s no binary answer. Some of the positive views are wrong, as are some of the negative ones. But when people so entrenched in their views start to belittle people who don’t agree, well forums are for discussions and expressing views, whether you agree with them or not
 
The club just isn't well run enough.

From an operations point of view, from a decision making point of view, from a budget point of view, from a business point of view.

Think that's a easy insult that can thrown at 95%of all clubs.

What is a well run club?
Is it a club that drifts in mid table every season and stays within financial restrictions
or it a club that shows ambition, takes risks and overspends going into debt?
Is it club that has a great Academy structure and invests in training facilities.
There are loads of factors that determining if a club is well run.

Unfortunately these days fans are too simplistic and judgmental.
When we win, the comments are often "we played well, what a great manager, we're going up"
When we lose, the comments are often "we played terrible, what a shit manager, relegation here we come"

Same thing with judging if a club is well run.
When any club gain promotion = well run club
When a club s relegated = badly run club.
Take Forest as an example, do they have a great owner or a poor owner, are they well run?
They massively overspent and gambled and just managed to stay up...meaning their fans are happy with the owner.
If they have been relegated last season......the same fans would have been wanting sympathy saying they have the worse owner in football.
 
Indeed. I've no idea whether his online presence is something partially agreed between himself and PA, whether he's just a PA lap dog, or if he's just an attention seeker.

Either way his constant messaging isn't helpful. It's easy to say ignore him but so many fans hang on his word and feed his ego.

His flounces and victimhood are utterly embarrassing too.

I wonder if he lived locally and regularly attended games, if he'd carry on the same.
No, I've no idea either and I wouldn't expect the club to be engaging in such tittle tattle on an individual basis, hence Bettis' more general statement about social media. But as you say, it's easier said than done to ignore him, largely because of the complete lack of other comms through official channels. That said though, were we ever given official running commentary on things such as transfers anyway?
 
I think he looked sun burnt and annoyed that we hadn't won a game that in the second half it looked like we should.

We all know, everything at the top is a mess. It's not new, it's just how it is now. Takeover happens, great maybe (it is a maybe) the new owners are better and they put people in who know how to run a football club and come in with a long term plan for stability and (hopefully) the plan includes us being aspirational.

For the short term now, all we can do is keep our fingers crossed that we sign a couple more players.

The only thing we as fans can do is turn up in numbers week in, week out and show our new squad (it is a new squad very clearly) that we will back them. That if they show heart in our shirt then we will love them. Yes, Seriki probably isn't ready for a full season as first choice right back, but he will do a hell of a lot better if we as fans back him. I am also now including souza and anel in this, because if they don't get sold, they owe us a huge season, we are more likely to get that huge season out of them by showing them appreciation.

I know I will get shot down on this as a clapping fan, but as I see it, if this is our squad, it's not the players fault and we need them to believe in our club.

It's a shit show. But it's our shit show. Fuck the board, fuck the takeover. I am now ready for Friday night away at Preston. Siege mentality includes us.

UTB
 
Not really sure what he’s meant to say to be honest. No strong opinion on Bettis. Speaks well when he does communicate, without knowing the inner workings of the club my sense is he’s a competent individual dealing with a lot of incompetence around him.
He could start by saying sorry 😔
 
I don't think he looked pissed off at all, obviously there's work to do on the squad and it's not exactly where it needs to be at this stage, he was honest about it and that's as much as he gave away, nothing more nothing less.

Making out he's seething underneath and that he was biting his tongue etc etc is just made up negative bollox. You lot will jump on to anything you can to have a pop, but Wilder knows where we are and he's doing a good job of building a team in difficult circumstances.
Don’t agree

He looked fkin desolate.

FFS
 
I'd much rather the Prince communicate himself with the fans rather than someone who sounds like he's included in transfer/day-to-day running of the club. Not sure this sort of thing happens everywhere. Ultimately we're all supporters of the football club and should all get the same information, rather than spion-fed through a select few
 
Doesn’t he struggle with every interview? it’s never been his strong point….
The takeover is nearly complete but I do think he has ‘blades fan’ frustration levels when he should be more professional….
Not the man to run with it for me….
Does anybody believe this take over is going to happen anytime soon. PA is going to syphon all the parachute money and sell the best players and pocket all the the money. Once he’s done that he try and sell the club for as much as he can get
 
Don’t agree

He looked fkin desolate.

FFS

Tbh, I've looked more 'desolate' when I thought I had curled out an absolute anal sculpture ... only to look back and find it was just an ordinary turd.

'Desolate'.... ha ha ha. Fuck me sideways. I've heard some shit. Get yourself back in the ale house and order yourself a stiff one. Steady the nerves and what not. You been on the juice this afternoon ...? 😄
 
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Tbh, I've looked more 'desolate' when I had thought I had curled out an absolute anal sculpture ... only to look back and find it was just an ordinary turd.

'Desolate'.... ha ha ha. Fuck me sideways. I've heard some shit. Get yourself back in ale house and order yourself a stiff one. Steady the nerves and what not.
Nerves are fine

I’m saying what I see

Not in ale house ? At home catching up on the club I love and have supported for 55 years .

Not changing my view whatsoever.

I know what shit looks like and sounds like and this club is in the shit -
 

Tbh, I've looked more 'desolate' when I thought I had curled out an absolute anal sculpture ... only to look back and find it was just an ordinary turd.

'Desolate'.... ha ha ha. Fuck me sideways. I've heard some shit. Get yourself back in the ale house and order yourself a stiff one. Steady the nerves and what not. You been on the juice this afternoon ...? 😄
No

Not been on the juice

But thanks for the edit
 

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