He's extremely strong, lightning quick, and is a natural finisher. At 19. He's probably worth near to £3m right now.
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He's extremely strong, lightning quick, and is a natural finisher. At 19. He's probably worth near to £3m right now.
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If you hadn't put a picture of him with his shirt off I'd have given you a like. With the picture I'd feel a bit to gay so all you get is a "well said sir"yeah think that has to be one of the most daft comments on PG i have heard
chubby eh?
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Perhaps it was McCabe
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He's worth nowhere near £3 million right now.
I don't want to sell him full stop and I can't imagine a buying club would pay that much for someone who isn't even a first team regular in a league 1 club.
If we need to raise money, and we shouldn't, the sensible sale would be Beard.
I don't want to sell him full stop and I can't imagine a buying club would pay that much for someone who isn't even a first team regular in a league 1 club.
If we need to raise money, and we shouldn't, the sensible sale would be Beard.
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i sometimes think RS play devils advocate or then again the presenter could just be a bit dumb
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who said anything about using the sale money ? come on JD keep up, remember the murphy sale
. nigel brought in a real quality defender with that money ........not 
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In other breaking news Ricky picked fault in the sun coming up this morning. Too hot and orange apparently.
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Are you one of those grown men who get territorial about 'outsiders' infiltrating their little forum?
It's obvious that you're yet another who'll ignore the content of my posts and go solely on a reputation created by others. What I've posted about Adams there is nothing but a reasonable football post and it's spot on. Are you and the many sensitive others on here really so averse to a post like that containing nothing more than a suggestion of where a player needs to improve? It's almost as pathetic as the territorial mentality.
It's obvious that you're yet another who'll ignore the content of my posts and go solely on a reputation created by others. What I've posted about Adams there is nothing but a reasonable football post and it's spot on. Are you and the many sensitive others on here really so averse to a post like that containing nothing more than a suggestion of where a player needs to improve? It's almost as pathetic as the territorial mentality.
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Do you have a reputation? I don't know you from anyone else and I didn't know you came with fame attached. Apparently I'm ignoring this much hidden content within your posts. Lets dissect your Che opinion. He'll never be worth £3m unless he improves several aspects of his game, am I right? That is what you said isn't it? Please tell me if I missed a bit.
Think you will find the forum belongs to Foxy and Linz officially but thanks for the name check. I don't care who comes on so long as they add to the forum, currently there seem to be many cases of an overload of quantity over quality.
I'll tell you where I stand, we win a game and you wade in with nothing but negative comment. We lose and you do the same. I'm happy to engage in debate with anyone with something sensible to say. It's only my opinion but you haven't got there just yet.
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A few people seem to be going on my reputation from Bladesmad and you very much seemed to be in that bracket.
I've made plenty of decent football posts and always do but people tend to ignore them and see what they want to see. One example is suggesting I only post the negatives, in fact it's the best example. In reality I'm always balanced and fair. The negatives are actually the most important things to post and it's bizarre that some people think there's no room for criticisms, and beyond that thinking it's actually absurd to criticise if we've won the match! When their football club is involved it's amazing how many grown men act like wild animals protecting their young - even when their club has consistently failed them for years.
If you don't care who comes on the forum and judge posters on merit then it's very strange how you jumped on me right from the start.
You could have engaged in debate with me about my perfectly reasonable Che Adams post on this thread but you chose not to. You can still do that if you like. Am I wrong, and if so where? I'm always more than happy to debate until people start with the petty jibes.
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Fair response and let the games begin. The fact that Adams is raw (19 I think) and English probably puts in excess of £5m on him in this day and age. £3m is nothing. I don't disagree that he is far from a finished article but to be fair what would you expect at this stage? 12 months ago he was playing non league and now he appears at home in League One. He scored 2 against Tottenham which in itself shows he has ability above where he currently is.
Will we sell him? Probably, let's be honest it's what we do. Hopefully it will be a couple of years and a promotion down the line but who really knows? I'm certainly not getting out my pram over something said on P&G which has just become a home for local football's twatterati.
Adams is coming on at a rate of knots. Think he really is a star of the future but like all young players he has a he'll of a lot to learn.
Thought your post over Howard was disrespectful as well by the way. To brand a player "pathetic" isn't a good place to start. Just my point of view but there you go.
I'd value che Adams at 10 million, because it worked when Ipswich sold Connor wickham and overinflated his value, didn't they pick 17million up for him or something silly from Sunderland just by valuing him at something daft like 20 mill.
Always said that was a great bit of business there...
And if they don't like it they can push off and we'll keep him, cus everybody knows we don't need to sell our best players anymore, eh Jim....
Always said that was a great bit of business there...
And if they don't like it they can push off and we'll keep him, cus everybody knows we don't need to sell our best players anymore, eh Jim....
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if i was as fat as billy i would be over the fuckin moon
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Our best chance of getting £3m+ for him would be if one of the top clubs decided he was worth a punt and wanted to make sure they got him. £3m is loose change to some of them. But whether anyone would be willing to pay that for him at the moment is a little beside the point I was making. He'll never genuinely be worth that money unless the basics of his game improve significantly. Not until transfer fees become even more inflated than they already are, at least.
If we do get interest I'd like us to take a position similar to the one Ipswich took with Wickham. But the management would have to properly judge the likelihood of him reaching his potential. It really could go either way with him, he's nowhere near as nailed on for the top as the two Kyles were for example, and at the minute he's more replaceable than Murphy. I appreciate that many hate the thought of selling another player but it could possibly be the best option with Adams. We'll see. But for us I suppose it boils down to whether it would be reinvested, and sadly we can never, ever count on that happening.
Dwight Gayle went for 7million, 3million isn't at all unrealistic.
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This is just a rumour started on RS , but by chinese wispers will finish up in the national press . Knowing Bournemouth , Eddie Howe will already have had the lad watched . He has a portfolio on every league and non league player , with a network of scouts second to none . The price will be set on his release and % sell on clause , no doubt in his new contract.
What is reality in football , especially a club in league 1 .
All players are replaceable , who ever they are . Our issue / problem , is that we never replace them or have a contingency plan in place , when they do leave (or so it seems to me ) , goung way back to Mick Jones.
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The longer we are in this league the less chance we have of holding on to players
Players all the way back to macdonald ,maguire ,quinn etc etc would have stayed if ambition had been shown
If you talk the talk but dont walk the walk the more ambitious players certainly look to do the latter
Players all the way back to macdonald ,maguire ,quinn etc etc would have stayed if ambition had been shown
If you talk the talk but dont walk the walk the more ambitious players certainly look to do the latter
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They've always been the same and will never change. Doesn't seem to matter who is running it. Trouble nowadays is that the Sheffield United way will literally get you nowhere. Genuine ambition and the finance to go with it is the only way to do anything in football now.
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Funny how we can still unsettle those shell suit wearing dead beats while still in a lower league.
I appreciate it seems like a bullshit rumour but I still find it incredible that more than one poster would be happy to sell him and see £3 million as a good deal. Now unless you are Kevin McCabe or HRH there is no way £3 million is a good price because you should know that money will not be reinvested.
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Regardless of whether the money would be reinvested or not is irrelevant. It would be an amazing deal for someone who has 977 minutes at this level and 5 goals.
I'm intrigued, on what basis do you think it would be an amazing deal for the club?
On the field we would suffer, fans would become even more alienated having sold both our best player from last season and the hottest prospect at the club in the same season. He hasn't even performed all that well this season, barring the Chesterfield and Rochdale games, so just imagine what he would be worth if he got his form together for the second half of the season.
The only way it could be considered good is for the money men at the club as they would have made a hefty profit on a player they signed 1 year ago. The only people who would win would be Adams, the buying club and our owners. As for the fans and the rest of the playing staff, well we're used to being fucked over time and time again so we are immune to it, or should be. Would still be poor business yet again though.
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We are a business, the sooner people realise this the better.Surprisingly, the club does not exist to please fans. It exists to make money, like any business. If the manager and the board decide that selling Che will ultimately help up achieve this goal, then so be it. 3m for a very raw player with very little game time or experience, regardless of his "potential" would represent good business from a buy low, sell high perspective. I like Che and think he could do well at united. You said it yourself, he hasnt performed that well this season, imagine if his form never "gets together" and he has 1 good game in 5 (purely playing devils advocate) - then 3m would represent a good deal.
For the record, I hope he improves and I hope we do keep him for many years if he continues to improve but the flouncing if he was sold for 3m would be amazing to watch.
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Oh dear, one of the Murdoch converts. We are a business, we exist to make money, not the fans happy. Do you ever wonder how it got there? Its comments like this justifying our position that are exactly the reason we are utterly fucked. If we are running as a business as you put it, and we want to improve, doesn't that mean we have to invest in better equipment? Doesn't that mean we have to have a strategy for getting better? I am yet to be involved with a business that improves by selling its good assets and replacing them with second hand washed up shit that isn't as good.
Che is someone we should move heaven and earth to keep. He has come on leaps and bounds since he joined us and has the capability to learn and improve further. I don't care if it is £5m what is the cost of not getting promoted this season, next season and the one after? I bet you its more than £5m.
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Tried to look up Murdoch converts in the dictionary but it didn't make much sense, realist is probably a better word. Do I ever wonder how what got where? The club? Yes, with fans a long time ago before football was fucked by money and managed like a business from the top through to the bottom, times have changed since we became what we are and fans have to realise it, every club up and down the land sells their assets to balance the books and attempt to make a profit. As a business yes we have to invest in better equipment to improve but how do you suggest we pay for the better equipment when the business is losing money despite investment from the owners? That's right, by raising capital and selling assets, nearly 3m profit on an asset we have would represent good business given his impact and allow the manager to strengthen, whether he does this successfully or not is a whole other subject and not the point I was making.
You talk like Che is the messiah and without him we 100% won't get promoted but with him we 100% will and for that reason should turn every single bid down regardless - it won't happy, Nigel and the board will have a price for every player and if someone comes close to that price then they will be sold. Sorry to break it to you, but thats how football works circa 2015 for all clubs.
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Out of interest, can anyone point to an example where a Premier League club has bid £2m plus for a League 1 player, it's been rejected, and the player has ended up staying put? I know we have examples of clubs standing their ground on players (eg Stones & Chelsea) but I'm specifically interested in a L1/PL example. In fact, ignore the fee – any bids acceptable. Genuinely interested to know if there are any.
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Yes, just like the Kyle Walker deal. That went well.
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You don't think that deal represented value for money at the time? Regardless of how it was reinvested? You could always use Slew and Mellis as other examples of it working in our favour. Its a risk you take.
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