Championship Signings
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derfblade.3
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Never heard of him. Stupid dosh being paid by the panicky clubs. Chug on our Chris.
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We're not in the same market as Boyd. He'll be on 30-40k pw.
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I've been in Crete and a bar owner I know there WAS a big Olympiakos fan.
I was stunned when he told me he had given up because it was owned and run by crooks and the owners were only interested in money
I'll be watching Forest with interest
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The guy I work with no longer cares for Greek football either, I think they find it insulting that a country with such hardship has these corrupt people so publicly flaunting there missdemenours
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I'm pretty sure that's Hector Bellerin
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You're right on that fact if my memory serves me correctly!. Fryers has been at palace for a while and has played less than 6 games. Can't think that he's going to be that good as he couldn't even make it with the millers! There's some absolutely stupid fees being paid out now by some Clubs!!. Keep doing the business Chris. Utb
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Here's my view.
Last season you would have said Brighton will do well as they were a good side that just faltered the season before.
And Newcastle went down with a top manager, retained him and some quality players.
So for me, those two were always going to take some stopping.
Compare to this coming season and I don't see two stand out sides.
Pigs just missed out but are a poor side. Those coming down might have lots of cash, but also massive overheads and Sunderland and Hull will be starting the season with new managers and in a mess as a club, Both up for sale and losing their better players. Boro too have a new manager.
Those in the play offs last season were poor, nothing special at all. They may strengthen, but so is everyone.
So for me, it's far from being a quality league with lots of quality sides. Yes there are some big teams with possibly big budgets but they were dire last season and so far have done nothing to convince me they are going to be significantly better.
It's going to be very tight, most sides are pretty close and any three from the whole league could go down, while any 6 save perhaps Burton and Ipswich and Millwall could make them play offs.
For me, Millwall were very poor last season so have a LOT of ground to make up. They will be my bankers for going down.
As for the blades, I honestly feel we will do ok. Momentum, and consistency in the management and team finally after years of chopping and changing will see us right. On top of that the manager is excellent, and for me will have no issue managing in the championship. We may have so far recruited from the lower leagues and this may be deemed risky, but looking at them individually they are decent players with some having experience of this league, while also having the basics required to be a success...ie some pace, decent touch or a bit of a trick or two.
I don't think there will be more than 20 points between going down and a play off spot
Last season you would have said Brighton will do well as they were a good side that just faltered the season before.
And Newcastle went down with a top manager, retained him and some quality players.
So for me, those two were always going to take some stopping.
Compare to this coming season and I don't see two stand out sides.
Pigs just missed out but are a poor side. Those coming down might have lots of cash, but also massive overheads and Sunderland and Hull will be starting the season with new managers and in a mess as a club, Both up for sale and losing their better players. Boro too have a new manager.
Those in the play offs last season were poor, nothing special at all. They may strengthen, but so is everyone.
So for me, it's far from being a quality league with lots of quality sides. Yes there are some big teams with possibly big budgets but they were dire last season and so far have done nothing to convince me they are going to be significantly better.
It's going to be very tight, most sides are pretty close and any three from the whole league could go down, while any 6 save perhaps Burton and Ipswich and Millwall could make them play offs.
For me, Millwall were very poor last season so have a LOT of ground to make up. They will be my bankers for going down.
As for the blades, I honestly feel we will do ok. Momentum, and consistency in the management and team finally after years of chopping and changing will see us right. On top of that the manager is excellent, and for me will have no issue managing in the championship. We may have so far recruited from the lower leagues and this may be deemed risky, but looking at them individually they are decent players with some having experience of this league, while also having the basics required to be a success...ie some pace, decent touch or a bit of a trick or two.
I don't think there will be more than 20 points between going down and a play off spot
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I see Sunderland, Boro, Fulham, Norwich and Villa as prominent. There are no titans, though and no obsequious cap-doffing is remotely justified (you managed to make your points perfectly well without any - it can be done).
I can't understand the fuss about mediocre Brum and Wolves teams. Pigs are going into decline and ultimately failure.
Burton, Bristol, Barnsley, Brentford, Bolton, Millwall and Preston to struggle.
Us? One of a few unknown quantities but certainly no relegation battle. No B.I.C. here.
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None of those look like stand out signings to me, not one team that looking who they have brought in makes you think " fuckin hell they mean business". I think our signings look as good as any even those moving for big fees.
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Never heard of him.
Again, if clubs are paying that sort of money for a player just cos he has come from abroad, then good luck to them.
I can't help but think that's there is some dodgy dealing being done with all these foreign transfers and the silly fees. I suspect that it's a way dodgy clubs are taking money out of clubs receiving payments from the transfer. And what I mean is that I wouldn't be surprised if wolves only pay a portion of that fee to his club.
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They can be welcome to that sort of signing. Give me a John Fleck or a Jack O'Connell instead, any time.
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can't see anything to worry about in those lists but as we are telling each other, it's too early as most of the real deals are yet to be done!
As it stands I'm waiting for a premier league club to take Woods from L**ds, which will be a leveller, Carvalhal looks like he's lost his nerve (as Wilson did for us) and as previously pointed out Barnsley have some of the best scouts in the business or signing defenders from Scotland is a recipe for disaster (I think the latter), can't see any stand out teams and think it will be an open division.
As it stands I'm waiting for a premier league club to take Woods from L**ds, which will be a leveller, Carvalhal looks like he's lost his nerve (as Wilson did for us) and as previously pointed out Barnsley have some of the best scouts in the business or signing defenders from Scotland is a recipe for disaster (I think the latter), can't see any stand out teams and think it will be an open division.
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I can pick a few who I think will struggle, I can pick a few who I'm sure will be around the top 6.
What I find really difficult is picking out the teams to make up the rest of the bottom half. It seems like there are about 17 top half standard teams in the division. It highlights how the depth in that league has improved. And it's all down to money. Most clubs have rich owners, and a few also have the increasingly absurd parachute payments rolling in.
The ones I fancy to punch above their weight are Preston, to an extent Cardiff and possibly us.
What I find really difficult is picking out the teams to make up the rest of the bottom half. It seems like there are about 17 top half standard teams in the division. It highlights how the depth in that league has improved. And it's all down to money. Most clubs have rich owners, and a few also have the increasingly absurd parachute payments rolling in.
The ones I fancy to punch above their weight are Preston, to an extent Cardiff and possibly us.
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My worry about the Wednesday in decline comments is that they were last season. By all accounts, for much of the season they were poor but managed to get to a penalty shoot-out in the play-offs final. I thought they were in decline last last season. All they need to do is play a bit better and be more consistent. It's a big worry. They were one of the most consistent teams in terms of results. The 2 automatic places will go to the most consistent teams out of about 10.
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Agree with the Preston comments. Grayson is a brilliant manager at spotting talent and I think he's made soe shrewd signings before leaving. It depends on the new manager, but I see them as mid table.
I also agree with the sentiment about top half clubs. There are very few poor teams. Last season, there were a lot of teams full of good players but not good teams. I was expecting Norwich to charge into the play-offs but they were too inconsistent. I reckon Brentford and Bristol City will surprise many
The signings so far indicate several clubs realise they're struggling for consistency and are signing reliable players. Not Leeds or Wolves, who I imagine will have a 5:0 win followed by a 3:0 defeat.
Norwich and Villa are two I feel who should be at the top. It depends on signings and management.
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Yes robbiez666 its my worry that iff those cunts get their act together they could be in the top two,like Brighton were last season.
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I'm not worried. I expect us to punch at middleweight next season when I look at the balance of things. I think we have a good group of players already that are capable of performing well in the Championship. We have added to that four relatively unproven signings, most of which look like they could step up. I think we are recruiting shrewdly.
The league will be tough, no doubt about it but for all the money that is floating around I see a lot of it being wasted on players that I have seen many times and that are frankly no better than what we have. Big budgets guarantee nothing. Ask that lot down the road.....furthermore ask Aston Villa!
The league will be tough, no doubt about it but for all the money that is floating around I see a lot of it being wasted on players that I have seen many times and that are frankly no better than what we have. Big budgets guarantee nothing. Ask that lot down the road.....furthermore ask Aston Villa!
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The players Wendy have signed - Boyd, Hooper, Fletcher, Rhodes, Winnall, Reach, Bannon etc. - suggest to me that rather than take a punt on up-and-coming talent, they're going for 'tried and tested'. They've all peaked and are on their way down. That means that they've got no scouting network and rely on past (it) performers. They finished 13 points outside the play-offs last season.
Unless Wendy are firmly in the top two, Carlos the Jackass will be on his way by Christmas.
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Sorry, play-off Autos.
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When we were in the Prem and then dropped to the Championship I remember tonnes of Pigs banging on about how our wage bill was too high and that we'd signed a few players on big money contracts and given bigger contracts to existing players to reflect the PL status of the club, the told me that this was a bad way to run a football club. I agreed at the time as it's a timebomb and subsequently it exploded and we were in the proverbial as a result and have made cut after cut ever since and are just building our way back up the right way.
Now the Pigs tell me that the only way to run a club is by getting proven and expensive players from the league above, I just can't wait for their timebomb to explode the stupid, condescending tossers.
I know which approach I prefer and hopefully we can shut the rest of the league up this year using that method.
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Don't think I'll be reaching for the Imodium Extra with that listing , in fact looking at the Dingles signings I thought they'd got the transfer listings crossed with Arbourthorne EA ?
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Really?
No doubt Wilder had made a few very shrewd moves in the transfer market whilst keeping a very good side together but let's not kid ourselves here, there are other sides who are making moves that without a doubt would strengthen our side.
When I look at Stockdale and Roberts to Brum, Boyd to the Wendies and Davies to Derby I can't help but think that all 4 of those players would strengthen our first 11.
I have complete faith in Wilder and I like the fact that we're working in a very shrewd manner and not placing the clubs future in jeopardy but there are some very good players moving about at the moment and this just highlights how tough this season will be.
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Oh, I've no doubt they'd strengthen our first 11, but at what cost? Boyd, for example, will be on £30 - 40k p.w. Can you imagine the disruption to our excellent dressing room spirit that bringing somebody like him in would have? That will be the end for Forestieri as he's already thrown his toys out because players are being brought in on mre money than him.
Ability on the pitch is only part of the equation. Tammy Abraham would improve just about any team snag is, he's on £50k p.w. plus a £1m 'retainer' to Chelsea. They're not really 'free' transfers.
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To me the signings so far tell me what level we are looking at next season (consolidation - which is fine.) we don't have the resources to play 3m plus for player which is what the teams aiming for the top half / play offs are doing.
As has been pointed out it's the wages rather than the fees which will make deals harder to do. The likes of Boyd, Davies etc will be on upwards of 30k per week - we can't afford that.
We aren't going to be splashing millions on players but could make the odd astute signing like we have done already.
Would feel more confident if we'd got in Leonard and Holmes tho to bolster what we have - there are some good players in the championship. That said a defined formation and team spirit should take us some of he way next season.
As has been pointed out it's the wages rather than the fees which will make deals harder to do. The likes of Boyd, Davies etc will be on upwards of 30k per week - we can't afford that.
We aren't going to be splashing millions on players but could make the odd astute signing like we have done already.
Would feel more confident if we'd got in Leonard and Holmes tho to bolster what we have - there are some good players in the championship. That said a defined formation and team spirit should take us some of he way next season.
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I agree to an extent, unless both teams sign a brand new squad, this season will likely be too soon to make a serious promotion push.
I think the concern is purely monetary: any club who can afford John Terry's wages or spend £17.5m on a single player will be a contender eventually, building a squad window by window.
Wolves aren't paying that money "just cos he has come from abroad". You not knowing who he is doesn't mean he's not a good player.
Neves is regarded one of the better young Portuguese players (and he has some stuff competition at the minute). He's been attracting interest from some of the world's top clubs in the last couple of years. Wolves could not be in the market for this player if it wasn't for their manager.
I'm not saying he's guaranteed to be a sucess, he may well struggle to adapt, time will tell.
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Absolutely mate but my point was in response to an earlier post that was rather dismissive of the signings made by other clubs and I was just picking a few examples where I thought good players were moving between clubs.
If we're talking about value for money then it's hard to argue that anybody is doing better business than us at the moment but looking at some of these players moving about at the moment, it does bring home just how tough this season will be.
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'tis life, mate. We're stepping up a level and there's no doubt this coming season will be a lot harder than last. But after a few years of 'looking forward' to playing the likes of Yeovil, Stevenage and Fleetwood I know where I'd rather be. I just hope that the majority of fans will forgive CW and the boys if we have the odd 'blip'. I'm sure that most will be as our excellent loyalty has shown. If we were still stuck in Div. 3, we'd be looking with trepidation at the likes of Blackburn. Thankfully, we're not and I don't want to see us back down there. We'll see...
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If he wasn't at Messi's wedding he isn't worth signing.
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