Cannon goes off

[GymClassHero]

Just does not put himself about. The only decent thing I saw him do was create a bit of space to get a shot on target. Other than. Occasionally being able to hit a shot, he offers nothing. He just doesn't look anything like an athlete, no mobility.

I don't dislike the guy and have nothing against him, unfortunately he just is not good enough at this level currently. Whether it's confidence, form, where he is being played or whatever, he's not doing his job

 

[GymClassHero]

In any kind of race for the ball he always seems to get there second, not sure if that’s lack of effort, or he’s slow, lack of anticipation or he’s physically weak.

Compare that to Campbell who’d been on the pitch ten minutes and who battled whilst being pulled back and did enough for the ball to be knocked to O’Hare, out to Burrows and goal. I don’t think Cannon could ever do what Campbell did, it’s a shame, but without at least one attribute, he’ll never be good enough.

His movement is sloth like tbh

 

[FredZeppelin]

I disagree with a lot said on here about Cannon.

In my opinion I don't think he's a poor player, positionally bad or incapable of playing at Championship level at all. I just don't think he's really trying particularly hard on the field and I certainly don't think he's motivated to prove anything to anyone. He's got himself a great move with the limited ability that he possesses and he's on very good money over a good contract length.

In short, he's on easy street. He has no feeling for the club or the game in general. He's doing the bare minimum and he doesn't give a shit.

We're lumbered with him until his contract runs down. Then he might up his game. We'll see.

utb

 

[Gysbrechts_tash]

I'm a big cannon critic but I'll start with a positive...he's not tall but he does seem to win some tricky headers. They don't amount to anything but he has it in his locker. I'll also say we haven't seen much of him in a two, ings played behind him tonight.

That said, one moment in the first half summed him up. The O'Hare chance, cannon was running in the box and had the run on the defender - instead of dating to the centre of the box where both a pass or deflected shot might land, he ran behind the defender towards the back post. The ball was never going there and if he thought so he has poor football intelligence...if not he's hiding. I think it's the latter, he sort of tries to look busy but he's never in the right place, near the ball or really competing.

He's 22, the price tag isn't his fault...but he has never looked like he wants to be here. 1 goal and hardly any chances of note otherwise. Anonymous on the whole.

 

[Barnette]

Is there a competition on this board to make the worst post about Cannon? Honestly, I find it ridiculous. Was Ings any better last night, or Ogbene? But as usual there's a race to slag this guy off. It's like bullying in the school yard.

Whether we like it or not, he's a United player bought and selected by Wilder, who's going to continue to use him.

Whatever is going on with the guy, he was rated enough to be worth £10M at one point, and I am sure he will be again. Sadly I doubt it will be with us because of our own fans determination to write him off.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Is there a competition on this board to make the worst post about Cannon? Honestly, I find it ridiculous. Was Ings any better last night, or Ogbene? But as usual there's a race to slag this guy off. It's like bullying in the school yard.

Whether we like it or not, he's a United player bought and selected by Wilder, who's going to continue to use him.

Whatever is going on with the guy, he was rated enough to be worth £10M at one point, and I am sure he will be again. Sadly I doubt it will be with us because of our own fans determination to write him off.

Fair enough. We SHOULD always try to back our players and he did get a solid round of applause from us when he went off last night.

A comparison with O'Hare gives a different picture however. Cannon rarely wins the first ball whereas O'Hare was tenacious for a little guy last night, throwing himself into his one on ones and often coming out with the ball when facing a bigger opponent.

 

[Large Mendonca]

Let's ignore our problems. Seems wise.

People like you are why this club will never amount to anything.

You accept, and allow (and I'm being kind with this next word Tom) mediocrity.

He's scored 1 goal for this club and is proving a blocker to young players with much higher ceilings. He's featuring purely based off his price tag in order to make a feeble attempt to justify it, but with every minute he's on the pitch his value (ha) is diminishing even further.

I would also cut him some slack if the effort was there, and it just wasn't working for him. None of that is true - he needs tough love, and a big fucking boot up the arse because he's absolutely taking the piss out of us all.

 

[Mumbo]

Is there a competition on this board to make the worst post about Cannon? Honestly, I find it ridiculous. Was Ings any better last night, or Ogbene? But as usual there's a race to slag this guy off. It's like bullying in the school yard.

Whether we like it or not, he's a United player bought and selected by Wilder, who's going to continue to use him.

Whatever is going on with the guy, he was rated enough to be worth £10M at one point, and I am sure he will be again. Sadly I doubt it will be with us because of our own fans determination to write him off.

So you think the fans are responsible for his poor performances ?

 

[madeinsheffield]

It looks like a lack of desire, he’s just not getting stuck in. Slow in thought so he doesn’t see where he should be. I think he’s one of those players who come good either on loan or the last six months of his contract. Unfortunately we can’t afford to wait for that. Shame because he spoke well when he came and as always his highlights reel looked good

 

[JPBrods]

It's actually remarkable that we managed to follow up Brewster with an even WORSE big money signing. We are truly unparalleled in world football when it comes to crap spending.

 

[Pawk Patrol]

Doesn’t matter. Minus 5 rating incoming…

 

[Champagneblade]

The only reason for his continual involvement is from a purely business asset protection aspect.

While he is deemed to be involved it will still keep him in the thoughts of other teams who may well agree to take on a portion of his wages or may even consider a fee for him.

If we bomb him out of the 20, as his recent contributions merit, then his value will topple far more quickly.

The best hope in my view is if we really want Souttar back, to go to Leicester, whose situation has markedly changed since we bought him and offer him as a makeweight. With the EFL keen to fine them and dock them points, a mutual swap deal may be of interest. Few teams are going to pay a large cash value for Souttar given his lack of top flight experience and his initial transfer fee.

Perhaps going for him and offering Cannon as a makeweight, a player who had moments with them and for whom some didn’t want to leave, might be the way to get out of this. We get Souttar, a player who finally felt at home here, they get a forward player to bolster their ranks and one who has settled there before.

I just find him so non-demensional. Kieffer Moore had his limitations; he ran like he was running through treacle at times, he lacked composure when he had time on the ball, but he was a nuisance and gave us physical presence. Cannon has no outstanding attribute that redeems him. Now maybe we aren’t playing him right but just like Brewster before him, I don’t see the anticipation there either.

I’d much rather play one outright forward and rotate between Ings and Campbell’s until January with Oné and Marsh as insurance until we can shuffle the pack so these latter two can get games and we can perhaps add the forward we should have added in the summer.

In the meantime we may well have to get used to carrying him as scrapping him probably just feels too unpalatable for the powers that be.

 

[91stMinute]

Witch hunt

Let's call people out of being wank and making no effort. I'm not here to be part of normalising shit just because he's 22.

Turning a blind eye to it is certainly not the way to go I'm afraid

He needs hounding out of this club, like it or not

You've even got Carl Asaba saying we're playing with 10 men when he's on the pitch and somehow he's 'being made a scapegoat' or it's a 'witch hunt'

BUT it is a witch hunt. You can laugh as much as you want
You and others take every opportunity to have a go. You seem to do it with at least one player per season.
"Hound out of the club". That's is absolutely appalling from a grown man (if you are one). Your behaviour is text book bullying. Maybe you need a spell of being hounded out of your job if you have one.
All I am saying is give it a rest. No its not working for him. Nobody on here knows why. But he is not "wank" as you so politely put it. In my view we do not play to his type of football. He is not a back to goal striker. Do we play to his strengths?
I know exactly what your reply will be like by the way.

 

[Slim Man]

BUT it is a witch hunt. You can laugh as much as you want
You and others take every opportunity to have a go. You seem to do it with at least one player per season.
"Hound out of the club". That's is absolutely appalling from a grown man (if you are one). Your behaviour is text book bullying. Maybe you need a spell of being hounded out of your job if you have one.
All I am saying is give it a rest. No its not working for him. Nobody on here knows why. But he is not "wank" as you so politely put it. In my view we do not play to his type of football. He is not a back to goal striker. Do we play to his strengths?
I know exactly what your reply will be like by the way.

What are his strengths? I've not seen a single attribute. If you have you should start scouting for Brentford or Brighton because you see things normal eyes just can't see.

Bullying. Ha. He's a professional footballer on 30k a week, I think he'll live

 

[Slim Man]

Is there a competition on this board to make the worst post about Cannon? Honestly, I find it ridiculous. Was Ings any better last night, or Ogbene? But as usual there's a race to slag this guy off. It's like bullying in the school yard.

Whether we like it or not, he's a United player bought and selected by Wilder, who's going to continue to use him.

Whatever is going on with the guy, he was rated enough to be worth £10M at one point, and I am sure he will be again. Sadly I doubt it will be with us because of our own fans determination to write him off.

the apologists for Tom Cannon are my favourite posters on this board. There's that few of you (because it's that fucking mental) it's hilarious to see.

You're like flat earthers.

The fans fault. Fuck me. What do you want us to do set off pyro when he comes on the pitch?

 

[91stMinute]

Is there a competition on this board to make the worst post about Cannon? Honestly, I find it ridiculous. Was Ings any better last night, or Ogbene? But as usual there's a race to slag this guy off. It's like bullying in the school yard.

Whether we like it or not, he's a United player bought and selected by Wilder, who's going to continue to use him.

Whatever is going on with the guy, he was rated enough to be worth £10M at one point, and I am sure he will be again. Sadly I doubt it will be with us because of our own fans determination to write him off.

Totally agree. He will move on from here no doubt and you can bet your house on it he will come good at another club. To just constantly slag a player off is ridiculous. We do not know what is going on, doesn't fit in, not a good fit for him and the club, lack of confidence, lack of experience, personal issues etc etc. Managers, coaches etc see something there. Wilder must see it in training. So he is not "wank" as some so eloquently put it. I would rather trust the professionals than the armchair manager/coaches on here who have played Sunday League Football or FIFA and think they know better ("but I'm entitled to my opinion " - but nobody else is) . He is a professional sportsman but also a human being that suffers from exactly the same issues that we do.

 

[ben1987]

Made me laugh when he was stood in the middle of the celebrations at the end hands on hips looking thoroughly bored.

Called it before we signed him, he doesn’t impact games. Hes got no outstanding attributes. He’s not big, strong, fast or skillful. He’s got a good clean shot if he can get one off but is totally reliant on service. We weren’t a team creating plenty of clear chances last season, never mind this season. Don’t wish him any ill will but he was totally the wrong player, the wrong fit.

We need to loan him out and allow him to rebuild away from United. Get his confidence built back up and move him on.

 

[91stMinute]

the apologists for Tom Cannon are my favourite posters on this board. There's that few of you (because it's that fucking mental) it's hilarious to see.

You're like flat earthers.

The fans fault. Fuck me. What do you want us to do set off pyro when he comes on the pitch?

You really are a nasty person aren't you?
As you often say you are entitled to your opinion but if anyone disagrees you just come out with your pathetic abuse/language.
We are not apologists we just have a different opinion and are trying to look for a reason for his poor form.

 

[GodricBlade]

You really are a nasty person aren't you?
As you often say you are entitled to your opinion but if anyone disagrees you just come out with your pathetic abuse/language.
We are not apologists we just have a different opinion and are trying to look for a reason for his poor form.

Mate, I think the sticking point is that after watching him play, other folk have given up looking for that reason & decided that either he’s rubbish, doesn’t want to be here or both.
Since he joined us, I can’t think of 1 good game for him yet see him struggle every time he’s on the pitch.
His performances, demeanour, effort & contribution all say the same thing - we’ve bought a dud.
He wins the odd header, has the occasional weak shot on target though regularly doesn’t pick the right pass, is in the wrong position or looks like he isn’t interested.
I’d agree that slagging players off can be harsh but critique of a player’s contribution is a big chunk of what the forum is for.
Look at Soumare - new young lad, waited for his chance, getting involved, putting a shift in & see how the fans react to him.
Cannon offers very little & so gets it back with interest.
Maybe - just maybe - this isn’t poor form. Maybe this is his approach to football & if so, he’s taking up a place in the squad on good money & not giving us value for it.
I’d happily see him go elsewhere & wish him good luck as it’s not working out here.

 

[91stMinute]

What are his strengths? I've not seen a single attribute. If you have you should start scouting for Brentford or Brighton because you see things normal eyes just can't see.

Bullying. Ha. He's a professional footballer on 30k a week, I think he'll live

All down to money again with you isn't it. First, you have no idea how much he is on. Two, does it really matter. Three, so being paid a lot makes you immune to abusive criticism does it?
Just out of interest. Were you bullied or the bully at school?

I'm leaving it at that and not going got get into a slanging match with you.

 

[AWetFlannel]

Let's ignore our problems. Seems wise.

People like you are why this club will never amount to anything.

Do top clubs have no sympathetic fans? Can you explain exactly how Mattbianco impacts the players in a way that stops us from amounting to anything?

You accept, and allow (and I'm being kind with this next word Tom) mediocrity.

He's scored 1 goal for this club and is proving a blocker to young players with much higher ceilings. He's featuring purely based off his price tag in order to make a feeble attempt to justify it, but with every minute he's on the pitch his value (ha) is diminishing even further.

He's featuring because our options are limited and because of his past performances, not his price tag. His price tag reflects those performances and his potential.

That some people revel in slagging off Sheffield United players makes me wonder why they bother calling themselves supporters.

 

[Tongeincheek]

You really are a nasty person aren't you?
As you often say you are entitled to your opinion but if anyone disagrees you just come out with your pathetic abuse/language.
We are not apologists we just have a different opinion and are trying to look for a reason for his poor form.

Look, I'm a soft, lefty, liberal who is fully on board with not bullying people - but the reason that Tom Cannon riles supporters isn't because he's having a bad patch of form or luck ala Didzy in the 19/20 season.
Its because he's nesh - doesn't try and back out of challenges.

I think Blades fans can of course like any other club be hot-headed and rash in making their minds up on certain players - but in my experience the only thing that raises this level of ire is when a player looks disinterested and cowardly.

I tried to explain why I give a toss about the Blades to my football hating wife, and the best I could sum it up is that you make an emotional investment in a team in the same way you might invest in anything - hoping that you'll get a return, in the form of happiness, or at least satisfaction.

Tom Cannon is being paid most people's yearly salaries a week and appears at best workshy, and at worst totally disinterested - he's tanking our emotional investment.
So he's bound to get pelters, and I can't make a very sound argument for why he shouldn't

 

[91stMinute]

Mate, I think the sticking point is that after watching him play, other folk have given up looking for that reason & decided that either he’s rubbish, doesn’t want to be here or both.
Since he joined us, I can’t think of 1 good game for him yet see him struggle every time he’s on the pitch.
His performances, demeanour, effort & contribution all say the same thing - we’ve bought a dud.
He wins the odd header, has the occasional weak shot on target though regularly doesn’t pick the right pass, is in the wrong position or looks like he isn’t interested.
I’d agree that slagging players off can be harsh but critique of a player’s contribution is a big chunk of what the forum is for.
Look at Soumare - new young lad, waited for his chance, getting involved, putting a shift in & see how the fans react to him.
Cannon offers very little & so gets it back with interest.
Maybe - just maybe - this isn’t poor form. Maybe this is his approach to football & if so, he’s taking up a place in the squad on good money & not giving us value for it.
I’d happily see him go elsewhere & wish him good luck as it’s not working out here.

Agree mostly. You seem to be in the minority on here willing to look into possible reasons, not just slag off. Some on here write players off before they've even signed. Critique doesn't involve slagging off players per se. In my view. I'm not saying hes good, but he's got this far in his career for a reason, we are not seeing it for whatever reason. He looks unhappy and has the weight of the world on his shoulders. Just give the bloke a break is all i'm suggesting.

 

[AWetFlannel]

You've even got Carl Asaba saying we're playing with 10 men when he's on the pitch and somehow he's 'being made a scapegoat' or it's a 'witch hunt'

"You've even got Carl Asaba laying into him like he's a scapegoat and somehow he's being made a scapegoat?!?!?!?"

 

[AWetFlannel]

Fair enough. We SHOULD always try to back our players and he did get a solid round of applause from us when he went off last night.

A comparison with O'Hare gives a different picture however. Cannon rarely wins the first ball whereas O'Hare was tenacious for a little guy last night, throwing himself into his one on ones and often coming out with the ball when facing a bigger opponent.

O'Hare is more tenacious than most players we've ever had, not sure that's a fair point of comparison.

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

I'm the same, I don't like to single players out but to me, Cannon's body language just says, please don't give me the ball. He looks scared of receiving it to me and I don't think it's doing him, and more importantly the team, any favours by keeping playing him.

Yep, I noticed that he was doing a lot of chasing around between defenders to give the appearance of pressing them, but there were a few times where he looked like winning the race and being able to put a tackle in where he visibly slowed down, giving the defender chance to safely get rid of it.

 

[Balham]

You don't think footballers read forums and twitter?

They most certainly do

I'm not convinced that Tom Cannon can read so we're probably safe.

(THIS IS A JOKE)

 

[AWetFlannel]

Bullying. Ha. He's a professional footballer on 30k a week, I think he'll live

Was profoundly disturbed yesterday to see a very famous and well-off chess Grandmaster had killed himself at 29 years old, very likely due to being bullied online and accused of cheating.

This forum is a fair place to criticise players, even if they might read it, but let's not pretend it can't effect people because they're on big money.

 

[GodricBlade]

Agree mostly. You seem to be in the minority on here willing to look into possible reasons, not just slag off. Some on here write players off before they've even signed. Critique doesn't involve slagging off players per se. In my view. I'm not saying hes good, but he's got this far in his career for a reason, we are not seeing it for whatever reason. He looks unhappy and has the weight of the world on his shoulders. Just give the bloke a break is all i'm suggesting.

To be really clear, I’m not interested in exploring reasons why he’s not delivering & I’d give him a break if he’d ever showed he deserves one.
His performances have already convinced me he’s not offering us anything despite being given plenty of opportunity.
As I say, people have already reached a conclusion that the reason he’s not playing well for us is that he’s rubbish, not bothered or both.
You can keep searching all you like for a different reason but for now, a move away from Utd seems like it’s the best for all concerned. The only thing I’d be interested to know is why his loan to Preston didn’t go ahead.

 

[Bladesman101]

Cooper has got credit in the bank after a phenomenal season last season

Mee, Tanganga and McGuinness have all been great in my opinion for the last few games. They are all massive presences and are really exciting to have at the club.

Ogbene I think is quality and his effort is unquestionable. McCallum had the most touches on the pitch while he was on yesterday and always looks eager.

Peck and Soumare are showing for the ball, whilst Peck isn’t having the best of seasons he absolutely his putting in the effort and Soumare you can tell in 100% concentrating on doing a good job.

O’Hare is doing really well.

Ings, whilst he didn’t contribute much I did see him making effort last night, loads of running and always trying to nick a foul to help the team.

Cannon. There are no words for how bad he was last night. Lazy. Not bothered in the slightest. This is not a witch hunt. When I see his name on the team sheet I might text my pals taking the mic, but deep down with him being a forward for £10m you just think it could click and we’re hoping he proves us wrong. We’re desperate for him to give us something to cling to. He doesn’t even kick anyone, you’d think there would be some more bookings to his game, like some frustration as he’s a big money signing who’s failing!