Call yourselves Blades fans?

[Esablade]

...if only everyone had the logic of the dearly departed Spock ( is it ok to bring him into this? I know Nimoy wasn't really Spock..was he?)

Fans are emotional, football is emotional and being able to let rip and vent your spleen about something...mostly harmless.. is one of its attractions .

Managers usually get the sack for losing games and failing in their objectives...I'm guessing only the board/Nigel know what is acceptable for this season..

 

[Silent Blade]

Does the negativity come from posters here, the people in the stands, or a team management which, as I say, declares at 1-0, at home, to bloody Peterborough? That's far more negative than owt I've seen posted on this site.

PS I actually think 5th place in the third division is nowt to crow about.

For a long time I have alwas thought that the Blades fans were one of the most syncretistic out of the football fans in the league and this could be one of the main reasons why we have not played in the top division much in the last 40 years. I think we need to change this

 

[JJ Sefton]

For a long time I have alwas thought that the Blades fans were one of the most syncretistic out of the football fans in the league and this could be one of the main reasons why we have not played in the top division much in the last 40 years. I think we need to change this

I don't think the clubs failure to cut it at the top level is the fans fault.

 

[Silent Blade]

I don't think the clubs failure to cut it at the top level is the fans fault.

Not totally but in some ways I do think the negativity vibes do bring the team down. All the infighting we have seen for many years etc. Liverpool fans have always fully backed their team and I would like our fans to be the same

 

[JJ Sefton]

Not totally but in some ways I do think the negativity vibes do bring the team down. All the infighting we have seen for many years etc. Liverpool fans have always fully backed their team and I would like our fans to be the same

I think thats astonishing to be perfectly honest. I remember us being 3-0 against Norwich (I think) and fans were singing "There's only one Dave Bassett". The team was getting thrashed but the players and the manager were working flat out for the win so they got support.

Compare that to last night. 1-0 up, at home, against Peterborugh, and the boss thinks "That'll do". Why on earth should fans who have paid good money cheer and sing for an outfit that it taking the piss out of them by putting in two thirds of a shift? It wasn't the fans negativity that fucked us up last night, when Weir was boss, when Adams or Robson or Heath or whoever was boss. It was the club, the players and management.

Living in London I'm cheek by jowl with fans from different clubs all the time and they are just as moaning, negative, and 'divided' as ours are. Christ, you should hear the Arsenal fans I know.

 

[Cyprus Blade]

For a long time I have alwas thought that the Blades fans were one of the most syncretistic out of the football fans in the league and this could be one of the main reasons why we have not played in the top division much in the last 40 years. I think we need to change this

I think this puts far too much weight on the fans and attributes far more influence than we truly have. I'm not clear though on which sense you are using the word syncretistic, why you think it is a bad thing and what you think it should be changed to.

 

[Silent Blade]

I think this puts far too much weight on the fans and attributes far more influence than we truly have. I'm not clear though on which sense you are using the word syncretistic, why you think it is a bad thing and what you think it should be changed to.

See my reply to Walthy above. Not saying that it isnt totally the fans fault, just that I want the fans to be more supportive until the end of the season. The infighting do make things worse

 

[Coily]

Not totally but in some ways I do think the negativity vibes do bring the team down. All the infighting we have seen for many years etc. Liverpool fans have always fully backed their team and I would like our fans to be the same

There could be something in this, and if you ask footballers they will generally say that the backing of the team by the crowd helps. It's a tactic used by most away teams, see off the first 20 minutes and quieten the fans.

Let's be honest, the atmosphere at BDTBL can be brilliant, but is more often a library. It's amazing sometimes how quiet 20,000 can be at a football match these days. Does this mean that last night was the fans fault? No, of course not. And I'd fully agree with the view that it's bloody difficult to get behind a team that tries to defend a 1-0 against Peterborough. But it's dead at most games from minute 1, and it never used to be this way. One thing you can say though, is that on the occasions the atmosphere has been good, the team has done well.

 

[Silent Blade]

I think thats astonishing to be perfectly honest. I remember us being 3-0 against Norwich (I think) and fans were singing "There's only one Dave Bassett". The team was getting thrashed but the players and the manager were working flat out for the win so they got support.

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It didnt help us much in that match but dont you think the fans solidarity during the 1990-91 season was a big help for the rest that season? We now do need the same kind of solidarity as we had in 1990-91

 

[JJ Sefton]

There could be something in this, and if you ask footballers they will generally say that the backing of the team by the crowd helps. It's a tactic used by most away teams, see off the first 20 minutes and quieten the fans.

Let's be honest, the atmosphere at BDTBL can be brilliant, but is more often a library. It's amazing sometimes how quiet 20,000 can be at a football match these days. Does this mean that last night was the fans fault? No, of course not. And I'd fully agree with the view that it's bloody difficult to get behind a team that tries to defend a 1-0 against Peterborough. But it's dead at most games from minute 1, and it never used to be this way. One thing you can say though, is that on the occasions the atmosphere has been good, the team has done well.

Again, though, think of other clubs. When we were at White Hart Lane t'other week it was hardly a cauldron was it? I don't believe that our fans are so much worse than other clubs fans that it can have a measurable outcome on results over decades.

 

[Silent Blade]

Since segregaration at football grounds dont you agree that we seem to score more goals in the Kop End than at the Lane end? That is probably because the fans give more noise when we attack the Kop. It is a fact that we scored more goals at the Lane End than at the Kop End in the 1970-71 and 1971-72 seasons

 

[JJ Sefton]

It didnt help us much in that match but dont you think the fans solidarity during the 1990-91 season was a big help for the rest that season? We now do need the same kind of solidarity as we had in 1990-91

Which came first though? Bassett's team wasn't successful because the fans gave it vocal support, the fans gave it vocal support because Bassett's team was successful.

As I say, I think of the West Ham, Arsenal, and Chelsea fans I know. Hammers were all pretty happy until New Year, now they are bitching at each other about Allardyce. Gooners were bitching about Wenger a while back but are now happily chanting his name again. It was the results that drove that.

Chelsea fans, by contrast, are a contented bunch, but then they are clear at the top of the League. Are they contented because of that? Or are they top of the League because they have supper-dooper great fans?

 

[FTPE]

It didnt help us much in that match but dont you think the fans solidarity during the 1990-91 season was a big help for the rest that season? We now do need the same kind of solidarity as we had in 1990-91

Some of them type players would be nice too

 

[Rodders]

It didnt help us much in that match but dont you think the fans solidarity during the 1990-91 season was a big help for the rest that season? We now do need the same kind of solidarity as we had in 1990-91

Those situations are incomparable though; 90/91 was our return to the top flight for God-knows how long, playing top teams with a ragtag team cobbled together; it was exciting, backs-to-the-wall stuff the whole season through. Now we have a team limping it's way through it's 4th season in League 1, a division, right or wrongly, we really shouldn't be in for this length of time.

Plus, there is also the cultural shift in football; the reality is that nowadays grounds just aren't a cauldron of noise for 90 minutes for bog-standard league games - with the increased ticket prices and the inclusion of more families to the game, the type of supporter that attends football has also changed; it isn't full of young lads singing their hearts out any more like it was - it's not a United thing, just a modern football thing.

I have to say, I find the constant blaming of fans for every slight thing that goes wrong at United very tiresome. It's just a pissing contest - "I'm a massive Blade, everyone else just isn't as much of a Blade as me - it's all their fault we're crap."

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Living in London I'm cheek by jowl with fans from different clubs all the time and they are just as moaning, negative, and 'divided' as ours are. Christ, you should hear the Arsenal fans I know.

Almost need a suicide watch with some of them. They have been at loggerheads with each other for several years now, between the 'In Wenger we Trust' faction and the 'Wenger Out' faction. Scrapping in the stand concourse after the Monaco game they were.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Those situations are incomparable though; 90/91 was our return to the top flight for God-knows how long, playing top teams with a ragtag team cobbled together; it was exciting, backs-to-the-wall stuff the whole season through. Now we have a team limping it's way through it's 4th season in League 1, a division, right or wrongly, we really shouldn't be in for this length of time.

Plus, there is also the cultural shift in football; the reality is that nowadays grounds just aren't a cauldron of noise for 90 minutes for bog-standard league games - with the increased ticket prices and the inclusion of more families to the game, the type of supporter that attends football has also changed; it isn't full of young lads singing their hearts out any more like it was - it's not a United thing, just a modern football thing.

I have to say, I find the constant blaming of fans for every slight thing that goes wrong at United very tiresome. It's just a pissing contest - "I'm a massive Blade, everyone else just isn't as much of a Blade as me - it's all their fault we're crap."

There's summat I always try and do at certain games and I've done it Wembley in 1997, Old Trafford in 1998, Old Trafford in 2003, Cardiff in 2003, Wembley in 2009, Wembley in 2012, and Wembley again last year. I take a moment to look round at the Unitedites and think to myself "For all the shit you lot have put with over the years you deserve just one of these days"

To blame the people I see when I look around on those occasions, or at Crawley away on a Tuesday night, for the persistent failings of the club is, well, I don't get it.

 

[Revolution]

Not totally but in some ways I do think the negativity vibes do bring the team down. All the infighting we have seen for many years etc. Liverpool fans have always fully backed their team and I would like our fans to be the same

Garbage. You're a good poster most of the time, but this is utter garbage IMHO.

There are a number of people you can blame for the best resourced team in the division underachieving again. None of them are paying customers. I suggest you start thinking a little more critically.

 

[Davie Blade]

Well it's 4pm now, I wonder if Darren's back from lunch?

 

[Davie Blade]

you're on lunch break Darren. take the bloody wig off

Should be any minute now
4,03pm

 

[Kenilworth]

Fucking Cup Tarts

 

[JJ Sefton]

Should be any minute now
4,03pm

He'll be wedged in a cupboard hiding from a jealous husband.

 

[1889]

He'll be wedged in a cupboard hiding from a jealous husband.

I imagine he's at his desk, composing a letter of apology to Raul for his disrespectful reference to his deceased Grandmother.

Or maybe not....

 

[Silent Blade]

Which came first though? Bassett's team wasn't successful because the fans gave it vocal support, the fans gave it vocal support because Bassett's team was successful.

That is not what I said, the more backing to the team by the fan is more likely to lift the team's spirits up.

 

[Silent Blade]

Some of them type players would be nice too

Not disputing that

 

[Silent Blade]

Those situations are incomparable though; 90/91 was our return to the top flight for God-knows how long, playing top teams with a ragtag team cobbled together; it was exciting, backs-to-the-wall stuff the whole season through. Now we have a team limping it's way through it's 4th season in League 1, a division, right or wrongly, we really shouldn't be in for this length of time.

Plus, there is also the cultural shift in football; the reality is that nowadays grounds just aren't a cauldron of noise for 90 minutes for bog-standard league games - with the increased ticket prices and the inclusion of more families to the game, the type of supporter that attends football has also changed; it isn't full of young lads singing their hearts out any more like it was - it's not a United thing, just a modern football thing.

I have to say, I find the constant blaming of fans for every slight thing that goes wrong at United very tiresome. It's just a pissing contest - "I'm a massive Blade, everyone else just isn't as much of a Blade as me - it's all their fault we're crap."

Agree with your first two paragraphs. As for the 3rd paragraph you are exaggerating in what I am really trying to say

 

[Silent Blade]

Almost need a suicide watch with some of them. They have been at loggerheads with each other for several years now, between the 'In Wenger we Trust' faction and the 'Wenger Out' faction. Scrapping in the stand concourse after the Monaco game they were.

Let's see if Arsenal will win a trophy this season. The infighting wont help Arsenal's team spirit

 

[Silent Blade]

Garbage. You're a good poster most of the time, but this is utter garbage IMHO.

There are a number of people you can blame for the best resourced team in the division underachieving again. None of them are paying customers. I suggest you start thinking a little more critically.

There are different reasons on why a team is underachieving. Our fans backing for away games this season is better than at home and so far we have won more points in away games than at home.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

I call myself a Blade and I went home last night with the distinct feeling that I'd been to the bank, withdrawn £100, and some cheeky cunts had picked my pocket, although it may have been down to leaving my wallet on display for everyone and his dog to have a go at.

Being pissed off is a understatement . We all spend hard earned money watching the blades , and if truth be known , we ain't had it right since pre season. Also feel after last night i had been turned over . All this bollocks we have had with we can get automatic promotion , with all the if , buts , and maybes , just show how wrong we are . Ok we lost a football match , and i still feel confident we will win the play offs . However lets stop thinking about the Bristol , Preston , MK Dons , Swindon , but start to worry about the teams behind us , not in front of us . We have been stop start all season , so losing last night should not be a big surprise to any of us.

We flatter to deceive , Get a proper striker and CH , play a settled side , and give us all a fighting chance , then we wont have to moan. Barnsley , Chesterfield could be on a roll , whilst we are still getting out of third gear,

Moan and pissed off - you bet .

UTB

 

[alcoblade]

She's dead Darren, thanks for asking.

He's even more turned on now .



UTB

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Garbage. You're a good poster most of the time, but this is utter garbage IMHO.

There are a number of people you can blame for the best resourced team in the division underachieving again. None of them are paying customers. I suggest you start thinking a little more critically.

Revolution well put .

Silent - read Liverpool forums . They are the same as us and any football fan.

UTB