Budget 2020/21

[Harrisblade]

We will have budgeted for 17th - £105m. We can’t finish lower than 10th - £120m? We could finish 7th - £127m? If we do finish 7th and Man U/Chelsea win the cup, we then have Europa league money as well. The prince remortgaged the £50m for McCabe at £10m a season over five years, so providing we keep CWAK happy, what’s to whittle about?

Have a word with yourself.
If we didn't whittle, the forum would be empty.
Blades live to whittle!

 

[William]

Is anyone a bit concerned by Wilder’s comments about not making any “head turning” signings? Wilder is obviously very savvy so would hope he’s just downplaying the budget again but I think we need to progress in a few areas to keep the intensity next season.

 

[robbiez666]

We currently have the best defence bar Liverpool? Yet people are talking of spending a large chunk of our budget there? Bogle, Lewis, Robinson. The midfield is well covered. Yet £14m for Eze keeps getting bandied about. The forwards and keeper are the problem. So surely that’s where we look to spend the serious money? if the defence and midfield ain’t broke, why look to fix it? If the roof on your house is leaking, you don’t buy a new door first, do you? Get the forwards and keeper sorted, then pad out the rest of the squad with the loose change.

We have a great defensive record. Doesn't mean we have the best defence. We play defensively and therefore don't score anywhere near as many as the clubs around us.

I do agree that defence isn't a priority but we do need an Egan cover and someone to compete at RCB (or preferably one player who could do both). It's clear we need cover at RWB as well as Freeman is leaving.

I can see why we need someone in midfield because we don't create anywhere near enough chances. Difficult as they need to do the defensive side as well. We need one more here and two if Lunny goes. L Freeman seems to be surplus.

We already have Sharp, McBurnie, McGoldrick, Mousset and Robsinon upfront. I suspect he'll add one other if no one leaves. I'd guess that will be a loanee again.

Goalkeeper is the priority. If not Hendo, then most of the money needs to go there.

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

We have a great defensive record. Doesn't mean we have the best defence. We play defensively and therefore don't score anywhere near as many as the clubs around us.

I do agree that defence isn't a priority but we do need an Egan cover and someone to compete at RCB (or preferably one player who could do both). It's clear we need cover at RWB as well as Freeman is leaving.

I can see why we need someone in midfield because we don't create anywhere near enough chances. Difficult as they need to do the defensive side as well. We need one more here and two if Lunny goes. L Freeman seems to be surplus.

We already have Sharp, McBurnie, McGoldrick, Mousset and Robsinon upfront. I suspect he'll add one other if no one leaves. I'd guess that will be a loanee again.

Goalkeeper is the priority. If not Hendo, then most of the money needs to go there.

Anyone seen the Liverpool youngster Brewster at Swansea? What’s he looking like, worth a loan? Genuine question as not seen him play

 

[robbiez666]

Anyone seen the Liverpool youngster Brewster at Swansea? What’s he looking like, worth a loan? Genuine question as not seen him play

Not seen much of him but Liverpool fans seem to have high hopes.

I think there's a decent chance he'll be involved with the Liverpool squad next season. They are weak upfront and will have a lot of games in a more compressed schedule.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Its a genuine question.....

And why are you calling me an 'opposition fan'?
There's only 2 games a season (bar cup draws) where i'm an 'opposition' fan.

Mate, it's all you do. You started out really well with some interesting insights into Leicester's development as a PL side then you just turned into a total contrarian wind up merchant. I don't think there's (m)any posters that enjoy your tone.

 

[CoatesyBlade]

Mate, it's all you do. You started out really well with some interesting insights into Leicester's development as a PL side then you just turned into a total contrarian wind up merchant. I don't think there's (m)any posters that enjoy your tone.

I’ve certainly noticed a change for the worse. It’s almost passive aggressive. Arrogant with sly little digs.

 

[BanderSerge]

I’ve certainly noticed a change for the worse. It’s almost passive aggressive. Arrogant with sly little digs.

How people put up with this transparent is beyond me.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Mousset is rapid and Zivkovic is the fastest player I’ve ever seen!

When I talk about pace it's not just upfront where its needed .Breaking from deep is also about how quick you move the ball amongst pacey midfield runners of which we are short.
John swift is a good example of this ,he may not be lightning quick but can be very direct with the ability to play with his head up he's a very clever player.

 

[CoatesyBlade]

When I talk about pace it's not just upfront where its needed .Breaking from deep is also about how quick you move the ball amongst pacey midfield runners of which we are short.
John swift is a good example of this ,he may not be lightning quick but can be very direct with the ability to play with his head up he's a very clever player.

No argument on that... I hope we sign the lad

 

[Charlieblade]

All this budget speculation is interesting and informative. What if the Prince decides that he needs to appease Wilders ambition, and the fans, by upgrading the academy, and removing the pillars from the Kop?
Money is a strange thing, in as much as, you can only spend it once.
To be honest, we do have a cracking good side, and I’m confident that most of them will be more than up for survival next year.
Why sell any prospects, or add financial pressures we can’t sustain, for one adequate season?

 

[CentralQuay]

Mate, it's all you do. You started out really well with some interesting insights into Leicester's development as a PL side then you just turned into a total contrarian wind up merchant. I don't think there's (m)any posters that enjoy your tone.

I’ve certainly noticed a change for the worse. It’s almost passive aggressive. Arrogant with sly little digs.

An interesting PM I got from a member on here sums it up pretty well.

I think what you're getting is a historical backlash mate. Right back to the days of Dave Bassett and then Warnock, the club have developed an "us versus them" drive mentality - "nobody loves us and we don't care!" All this was driven home by the Tevez Affair - but I'd like to think that under CWAK we're getting some recognition from the wider football world (pundits excepted!) and we're not taking on the whole world.


Where was your post when I was disagreeing with the Pundits about Sheffield United being a 'basic' side?
Where was your post when I was disagreeing with a number on here about Oli 'McShitty'? Or Berge being a waste of money?

You will find over 90% of my views that I have posted on here, are actually also held by Wilder.

Remember when I said Burnley were the most similar club/side in the league? Wilder said that just days later.....
Remember when I said the strength in the side was the collective, not the individual ability? Wilder just went one step further and criticized them to the point of labeling them 'Championship/League 1' players.

Not once have you actually tried to form an argument to disagree with mine.
Anyone can say 'you're wrong'.
Yet you have no evidence to prove why.

Even in this thread i'm getting criticism for admitting to not knowing certain financial aspects.....
It's clear this 'Us vs them' mentality is still rife, when the reality is, those who don't have a specific interest in Blades, couldn't care less about the club. They will certainly find the conspiracy stuff hilarious. I have an interest in the club, but can't help laughing at all the excuses that keep being put out, from 'VAR' to the 'hot weather'.

 

[CentralQuay]

All this budget speculation is interesting and informative. What if the Prince decides that he needs to appease Wilders ambition, and the fans, by upgrading the academy, and removing the pillars from the Kop?
Money is a strange thing, in as much as, you can only spend it once.
To be honest, we do have a cracking good side, and I’m confident that most of them will be more than up for survival next year.
Why sell any prospects, or add financial pressures we can’t sustain, for one adequate season?

What works in the Prince's favor imo, is that although Wilder is clearly ambitious and an excellent manager, where could CW possibly go?

Actually, it's more surprising to me than most that the most realistic option might be Leicester.
A few rumors round here are that unless Rodgers gets Top 4, he will get the boot in the summer.
The big 6 seem to have their managers settled for now, Nuno could get a job abroad I guess, but Everton have Ancelotti and Moyes deserves a crack at West Ham.

It's like with Dyche at Burnley, who is obviously been there a lot longer.
But he has reached the point where he is getting fed up, but where would he go?

 

[CoatesyBlade]

An interesting PM I got from a member on here sums it up pretty well.

I think what you're getting is a historical backlash mate. Right back to the days of Dave Bassett and then Warnock, the club have developed an "us versus them" drive mentality - "nobody loves us and we don't care!" All this was driven home by the Tevez Affair - but I'd like to think that under CWAK we're getting some recognition from the wider football world (pundits excepted!) and we're not taking on the whole world.


Where was your post when I was disagreeing with the Pundits about Sheffield United being a 'basic' side?
Where was your post when I was disagreeing with a number on here about Oli 'McShitty'? Or Berge being a waste of money?

You will find over 90% of my views that I have posted on here, are actually also held by Wilder.

Remember when I said Burnley were the most similar club/side in the league? Wilder said that just days later.....
Remember when I said the strength in the side was the collective, not the individual ability? Wilder just went one step further and criticized them to the point of labeling them 'Championship/League 1' players.

Not once have you actually tried to form an argument to disagree with mine.
Anyone can say 'you're wrong'.
Yet you have no evidence to prove why.

Even in this thread i'm getting criticism for admitting to not knowing certain financial aspects.....
It's clear this 'Us vs them' mentality is still rife, when the reality is, those who don't have a specific interest in Blades, couldn't care less about the club. They will certainly find the conspiracy stuff hilarious. I have an interest in the club, but can't help laughing at all the excuses that keep being put out, from 'VAR' to the 'hot weather'.

 

[Charlieblade]

What works in the Prince's favor imo, is that although Wilder is clearly ambitious and an excellent manager, where could CW possibly go?

Actually, it's more surprising to me than most that the most realistic option might be Leicester.
A few rumors round here are that unless Rodgers gets Top 4, he will get the boot in the summer.
The big 6 seem to have their managers settled for now, Nuno could get a job abroad I guess, but Everton have Ancelotti and Moyes deserves a crack at West Ham.

It's like with Dyche at Burnley, who is obviously been there a lot longer.
But he has reached the point where he is getting fed up, but where would he go?

You know so much, and yet so little. Wilder is going nowhere. Certainly not to a club who sacks their manager for failing to achieve top 4!

 

[CentralQuay]

You know so much, and yet so little. Wilder is going nowhere. Certainly not to a club who sacks their manager for failing to achieve top 4!

He has ambition.

So he wouldn't go Old Trafford?

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

I listened to Wilder about the kitty,dont expect any big muney signings,just free agents.

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

He has ambition.

So he wouldn't go Old Trafford?

He might not. It’s not all about money. Once you’re more than financially secure for you and you’re family for life money isn’t the be all and end all. It’s not like someone doubling your salary from 30 to 60 grand a year, he’s probably earning that a week. It’ll be different for him than it would be for the average man in the street.

Wilder himself will be realistic and know that handling the players at United would be very different to trying to motivate the world class stars at Manchester. He’ll wonder if his style of management would work on them which tbh I doubt it would.

He’s trying to build United into a bigger club than they are now. Pundits say “he deserves a chance at a big club”

In Wilders eyes he’s trying to build United into that ‘big club’

What greater ambition is there than trying to transform the club he supports into a club of greater stature and size. He’s living his dream and every Blade’s like him dream. He’ll know he can leave a true legacy and what he’s done here can’t automatically be replicated elsewhere. It’s a once in a lifetime chance for him to do that at the club he loves. He ain’t going to walk away from that easily.

So no it’s not a given that he’d go when Man U or similar come calling. Hopefully we’ll never have to find out.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Obviously the budget is going to be less than last year with the financial climate and court case stadium purchase

Obviously, we won’t just make free transfer signings. It will be a mix as usual.

The financial climate will bite in the lower leagues too, teams might not be able to fight as hard to keep their players. So who know who’s going to be available, but their might be some bargains.

 

[Keen Blade]

If both Freemans & Calum Robinson & Moose & Jags & Rodwell leave , we need a LB , a RB , 2 CBs , a LMF & 2 strikers - if we don't strengthen the current squad we will go down next season from a stronger PL. We currently have no backup for RB , only Osborn for LB , Jack Robinson & 2 old chaps for CB , a striker that's been loaned out & one that can't play 90 mins. In MF , Lunny won't sign , Luke Freeman is not favoured - we have Fleck & Ossie on the left , Norwood & Berge central & no RMF

 

[Keen Blade]

The goalie situation hasn't been clarified by signing Wes F.
Kieran F is released so we've no cover at RB. Only Osborn is cover at LB but he's shown he's a MF.
Jags & Rodwell are released so Jack R is our only cover at CB. Lunny is prevaricating + we may sell him to avoid being stuck with him in his last year of contract. Luke F hasn't been given much chance + may move on. So in MF we've got 2 lefties in Fleck & Ossie & 2 righties in Norwood & Berge. But if Lunny & Luke F leave , we're light.
Up front Calum has been loaned out & Moose is tired out , so I can't see them staying.
In short , our squad is smaller + getting smaller.
There's a tremendous amount of recruitment required to survive next season.

 

[Keen Blade]

Sorry dunno what happened there , wrote a post which didn't load , so wrote another similar , then both loaded !
Anyway , I reckon we'll see 7 new players in the window + I hope they all turn out to be excellent VFM whatever their provenance.

 

[Nesh Blade]

What works in the Prince's favor imo, is that although Wilder is clearly ambitious and an excellent manager, where could CW possibly go?

Actually, it's more surprising to me than most that the most realistic option might be Leicester.
A few rumors round here are that unless Rodgers gets Top 4, he will get the boot in the summer.
The big 6 seem to have their managers settled for now, Nuno could get a job abroad I guess, but Everton have Ancelotti and Moyes deserves a crack at West Ham.

It's like with Dyche at Burnley, who is obviously been there a lot longer.
But he has reached the point where he is getting fed up, but where would he go?

Is there not any talk of Leicester getting Pochettino? As good as Wilder is, I can't see many' bigger' clubs coming in for him until he's had a few seasons in the Prem

 

[Keen Blade]

I agree with you. But if there’s not much money what can we do?

Trust in CW

 

[Keen Blade]

Don't know, we have the Irish lads that might have bigged us up from a "good place to come to" angle, and we might play a better style for him as were less inclined to bypass midfield so maybe the same offer would be worth more in that regard, but wages are an issue going forward. We have to start paying for better quality, but we have to tread carefully.

No-one has an issue with Sander, Jags or Henderson though, who are all on more than everyone else you'd assume.

I expect we'll have a go for him though anyway, Wilder likes him.

Can't justify Jags wages next season just for a bit of dressing room advice

 

[Harrisblade]

Can't justify Jags wages next season just for a bit of dressing room advice

What wage is Jagielka on?

 

[CentralQuay]

Is there not any talk of Leicester getting Pochettino? As good as Wilder is, I can't see many' bigger' clubs coming in for him until he's had a few seasons in the Prem

My problem with Poch is that he has the same limitations as Rodgers, like Rodgers he only has one way of playing and when it doesn't work, he struggles for a Plan B.
As soon as it becomes obvious that he hasn't progressed, like Rodgers is now showing, and Mourinho has shown since Man United, it becomes difficult to back them.

The owners are ambitious, and will back the manager as well as possible, FFP enabling of course, which was brought in to try and prevent clubs like Leicester challenging the established 'top clubs'.
Even if Rodgers is not let go this summer, he has lost a lot of trust/credit with the fans/owners. Simply because he unfortunately looks identical to the man that left Liverpool.