Bryan Robson Is Our new manager

[keenzy]

ive heard it was 2, till the end of this month but 5 will be about right i rekkon.

 

[Dkc]

My overriding hope for this season is to see some good football being played by Sheffield United for the first time in a very long time.

I was ambivalent in the pro / anti Warnock campaign that kicked off following our relegation but whilst you cannot knock the effort and spirit of Neil’s teams over the year, we have at no point under his stewardship been pleasing on the eye.

Of course, winning games is the most important thing but our lack of creativity / inability to keep the ball has (in my opinion) led to our relegation and is one of the major reasons it took so long to get to the premiership in the first place.

Robson is a graduate from a very strong Manchester United side that played great football (captain no less) and is regarded as a hero by their fans. He is also a former England Captain, has played in world cups and has won the majority of domestic honours.

He had an exceptional spell at Middlesborough followed by some difficult times towards the end and went on to keep West Brom up in miraculous circumstances.

He also led them to relegation ad struggled to follow up with a successful campaign to get them back up, hopefully he will have learned lessons from this experience and can bring those lessons to the job.

Kidd is a top class coach and assistant, hopefully he can give Robbo the kind of guidance that he was missing during his early managerial career. He knows the team, the staff and the club and is perfectly placed to ease Robbo into the new job.

There are downsides to Robson but there are downsides to every available manager.

I for one will be behind him. Having lambasted the signings of Hulse and CKR I have learned that to judge people before they have been given a chance ends up making you look a fool in the majority of cases.

Up the blades.

Absolutely. He may have had some success with Warnock but the football was turgid. And his 'Bladey Blade' antics were simply embarrasing. It's unprofessional for a manager to gob off to the media and disparage their city rivals.

Warnock's yesterday's man. Now we have a new manager who knows all about modern football, a proven winner and the best man to take us back to the Premier League. The future's looking bright.

 

[Bladesdoc]

be careful what you wish for …….

 

[MKY]

18 years….. that’s some ressurection!

 

[Down the Channels]

be careful what you wish for …….

This shows how crucial it is to get the appointment right.
In my opinion the reason Robson failed was because he was the polar opposite to Warnock, he had no connection with the fans at all.
He was the wrong choice and most Utd fans could see that.
Same with Adkins, same with Jokanovic..........there are many more!
I want WIlder to stay, some of the football and the times have been the best of my 53 years supporting Utd. But I am a realist and know that things cannot last forever, there will be a change of direction at some point. But it rarely works.
Hecky reverted back to what suits us, it worked.
Even Backwell, which was a limited manager in many ways, got a real tune out of the players as soon as Robson left. - by reverting back to what suits us.
It can work work though, we have seen that at many other clubs.
But I feel any new manager replacing Wilder has to hit the ground running. Very few new managers do that.
I am worried for next season either way now. The club needed to keep a calm head and continue the build, whatever happens from now this last week has put extra pressure on where there didn't need to be any.

 

[Dkc]

This shows how crucial it is to get the appointment right.
In my opinion the reason Robson failed was because he was the polar opposite to Warnock, he had no connection with the fans at all.
He was the wrong choice and most Utd fans could see that.
Same with Adkins, same with Jokanovic..........there are many more!
I want WIlder to stay, some of the football and the times have been the best of my 53 years supporting Utd. But I am a realist and know that things cannot last forever, there will be a change of direction at some point. But it rarely works.
Hecky reverted back to what suits us, it worked.
Even Backwell, which was a limited manager in many ways, got a real tune out of the players as soon as Robson left. - by reverting back to what suits us.
It can work work though, we have seen that at many other clubs.
But I feel any new manager replacing Wilder has to hit the ground running. Very few new managers do that.
I am worried for next season either way now. The club needed to keep a calm head and continue the build, whatever happens from now this last week has put extra pressure on where there didn't need to be any.

As I just posted on another thread, over the past 50 years we've had 23 permanent managers. Apart from Wilder only four of them have led us to promotion. The other 18 have failed to gain promotion or got us relegated.

We have a driven, double promotion-winning manager who is eager to give it another crack. We could let him get on with it, or we could sack him and roll the dice again.

It's not 'different this time' 'because of AI' any more than it was different in 1999 'because of the Internet'. The stats are clear. New managers are far more likely to be sacked than gain promotion.

 

[Wilderat Heart]

As I just posted on another thread, over the past 50 years we've had 23 permanent managers. Apart from Wilder only four of them have led us to promotion. The other 18 have failed to gain promotion or got us relegated.

We have a driven, double promotion-winning manager who is eager to give it another crack. We could let him get on with it, or we could sack him and roll the dice again.

It's not 'different this time' 'because of AI' any more than it was different in 1999 'because of the Internet'. The stats are clear. New managers are far more likely to be sacked than gain promotion.

The problem is for many of those years the club was a basket case where decent managers Kendall for example failed in the end. Wilson would have taken us up but the football gods as ever we're laying in wait. Fear of what might happen can't be used as a justification for doing nothing. I won't complain if Wilder stays but I'm not convinced that guarantees anything next season.

 

[Dkc]

I won't complain if Wilder stays but I'm not convinced that guarantees anything next season.

Neither am I. But I'd wouldn't bet on him a new guy doing better than he'd do.

If Wilder goes, I hope I'm wrong. But I've seen too many false dawns to be optimistic.

 

[Down the Channels]

The problem is for many of those years the club was a basket case where decent managers Kendall for example failed in the end. Wilson would have taken us up but the football gods as ever we're laying in wait. Fear of what might happen can't be used as a justification for doing nothing. I won't complain if Wilder stays but I'm not convinced that guarantees anything next season.

Nothing is guaranteed.
The decision is simply, who gives the best chance of promotion next season.
For me it is Wilder all day, every day, long.
Everything else is a gamble and I don't think we should gamble, we should be in a good position.
It is very similar to when Warnock was sacked, would we have gone back up under Warnock?? No one knows but there is a strong argument to think we would.
We gambled, it failed.
We have done that before and I don't want us to do it now.
We could gamble and it pay off well of course. But this is rare. Most clubs tend to do better being patient.

 

[Hodgesleftpeg]

Warnock left and it took us how long to get a promotion, nevermind back to the premier league...

Letting Wilder go could easily lead to the same situation.

He deserves another go after what he did last season.

'Chris, we backed you in the transfer window, not entirely a success was it? There needs to be some compromise regarding recruitment.. we are opening things, if you dont like it then we can part ways, if you are open to it lets work together because you arent more important than the club as a whole'.

I genuinely cannot think of a better manager than the one we have now to get us up next season.

 

[Old Programme seller]

I guess we either back him or sack him no half measures imo if we were to sack him it should have been straight away after the playoff final

 

[Russ]

Hic

 

[DifferentClass]

Whoever bumped this thread needs a reyt smack... fucking frightened for a sec there!

 

[GymClassHero]

As I just posted on another thread, over the past 50 years we've had 23 permanent managers. Apart from Wilder only four of them have led us to promotion. The other 18 have failed to gain promotion or got us relegated.

We have a driven, double promotion-winning manager who is eager to give it another crack. We could let him get on with it, or we could sack him and roll the dice again.

It's not 'different this time' 'because of AI' any more than it was different in 1999 'because of the Internet'. The stats are clear. New managers are far more likely to be sacked than gain promotion.

Personally I do view stability as a critical ingredient for success. That said, Wilder of 2025 is not the same as that of promotion winning Wilder of 2019. Cast your mind back to that successful period, no matter who it was we were playing we always went for the jugular - be it 1 nil or 3 nil - rather than this negative defensive stance we take when in the lead.

I'm all for defending a slender lead and looking to hit teams on the counter if we are a goal to the good with a few mins left. The season just gone we could take the lead against Oxford United with 89 and a half minutes to play and we would still shut up shop, it almost makes me dread taking an early lead very alike to Gareth Southgate.

For this alone I am in favor of replacing Wilder. Especially if we can bring someone like Gary O'Neil in (which is looking like a possibility).

 

[Dkc]

Warnock left and it took us how long to get a promotion, nevermind back to the premier league...

Letting Wilder go could easily lead to the same situation.

He deserves another go after what he did last season.

'Chris, we backed you in the transfer window, not entirely a success was it? There needs to be some compromise regarding recruitment.. we are opening things, if you dont like it then we can part ways, if you are open to it lets work together because you arent more important than the club as a whole'.

I genuinely cannot think of a better manager than the one we have now to get us up next season.

Gary O'Neil's better apparantly

 

[SwissBlade]

Neither am I. But I'd wouldn't bet on him a new guy doing better than he'd do.

If Wilder goes, I hope I'm wrong. But I've seen too many false dawns to be optimistic.

Warnock left and it took us how long to get a promotion, nevermind back to the premier league...

Letting Wilder go could easily lead to the same situation.

He deserves another go after what he did last season.

'Chris, we backed you in the transfer window, not entirely a success was it? There needs to be some compromise regarding recruitment.. we are opening things, if you dont like it then we can part ways, if you are open to it lets work together because you arent more important than the club as a whole'.

I genuinely cannot think of a better manager than the one we have now to get us up next season.

I think the key will always be to have a plan. We were fortunate this season that Wilder had a plan as the club didn’t, given the changes made to the ownership

Wilder does indeed provide a track record as well as stability and we are a cross roads of stick or roll the dice with a new manager. Either way needs a plan and backing so that everyone is aligned.

In the past when we’ve made changes it’s not been with a plan, it’s with a change of direction but lacked the backing.

Wilder comes with his own challenges, we know he’s not perfect, no manager is. If the club keep him they have to accept some of them, work with him on some others and set the standards for what they want the club to look like going forward. Right now the manager sets the tone and is the pivotal part of the club that they may not like.

 

[unitedbhoy]

Warnock left and it took us how long to get a promotion, nevermind back to the premier league...

Letting Wilder go could easily lead to the same situation.

He deserves another go after what he did last season.

'Chris, we backed you in the transfer window, not entirely a success was it? There needs to be some compromise regarding recruitment.. we are opening things, if you dont like it then we can part ways, if you are open to it lets work together because you arent more important than the club as a whole'.

I genuinely cannot think of a better manager than the one we have now to get us up next season.

But he won't accept that. That's the issue.

It's the same scenario as when he left first time - unwilling to accept criticism or any "help" for him, it's as if he sees it as showing weakness.

If he can't acknowledge the fact that he's made expensive mistakes such as bad signing when given substantial money IE Cannon, Lack of CB and wasted money on Holding, poor squad fitness, £500k in ill discipline fines (done a hell of a lot of good, too btw) - then he will get a wave goodbye.

I know nothing as an outsider, but I assume it doesn't have to be like that. Hold your hands up, be a man, take your employers advice and input they can give, (THEY PAY YOU) and get on with the job.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Gary O'Neil's better apparantly

We’ll know whether that’s the case over the next few years. The current signs are that he’s likely to be. He’s achieved far more at a much higher level than Wilder had at that age, and given his high level of intelligence he’s likely to continue to develop and improve. We need to look to the future. That shouldn’t include the likes of Dyche, Wilder etc, as good as they were in the past.

 

[DifferentClass]

18 years….. that’s some ressurection!

Alexa, play Paul Oakenfold.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Alexa, play Paul Oakenfold.

Yes, but it obviously proves that we should stick with Wilder

 

[maidmarion]

At the end of Robsons last match in charge I said to m6 dad that I’m not going back until they sack him. Fortunately, they did the following week and so I didn’t have to take up my threat.
The football they were playing towards the end was absolutely awful.