Brooksy

[grafikhaus]

Let's try not to go down the Wednesday route of loving a player until they leave and then 'he was crap'. Good luck to DB, he was truly one of those players who could 'get you out of your seat'. Unfortunately - due to illness - we didn't see it often enough, but I remember another player who did the same with two goals against Spurs in a few minutes, Che Adams, who is inexplicably hated by many on here. Brooksy always did his best here - unlike mardy, petulant twat Forestieri who only plays when he wants to.

DB - like Harry - will continue to get rave reviews for the simple reason that he's surrounded by far better players. I'm sure Bournemouth will just be a stopover for a player who will improve. It's highly likely that Brooksy will have regrets. Should he have progressed at Man. City and be in a similar situation to Phil Foden - looking at a 5-year contract @ £25k per week (which is sure to be re-negotiated upwards)? Will Foden's agent be seen as a 'greedy cunt'? Or somebody who has done well for his client?

So good luck, DB. There's only Man. City (and possibly Chelski) who don't sell their best players which is something some people on here don't understand. At least he didn't go to Leeds, like so many of our past stars.

 

[Revolution]

So good luck, DB. There's only Man. City (and possibly Chelski) who don't sell their best players which is something some people on here don't understand. At least he didn't go to Leeds, like so many of our past stars.

If you look at the list of minutes played in the PL last season by academy graduates, we are in the top 10 again. We are 5th, I believe. We are the only non top flight club in there, once again.,

Yes, everyone sells players. But does anyone else sell so much talent and fail to get to the top flight? Doesn't seem like it.

We had a good summer window in 2016 when for once the money we raised for our best young players was spent wisely, winning us promotion.

The jury is, however, out in relation to the Brooks money, thus far.

 

[finlaytheblade]

This is the positive: that he went to Bournemouth, not straight to Man Utd. The chance of add ons being realised have increased; if you believe he has the ability, as I do. We nearly missed out with Walker, because he went to one of the bigger clubs in Tottenham.We had to wait until it was realistically his last chance of a big move before we benefited. A real sliding doors moment.

Yes the comparison is there ,it was obviouse. that Walker was a great player
in the making and Brooks is just the same.
Both have the mental strength to acheave at the top level.Yes we will get the windfall quicker with Brooks it's just a shame we havnt been able to enjoy them in there pomp,Brooks will go all the way.
He is still a rocky in experience terms but his quality ties are all there to see

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

If you look at the list of minutes played in the PL last season by academy graduates, we are in the top 10 again. We are 5th, I believe. We are the only non top flight club in there, once again.,

Yes, everyone sells players. But does anyone else sell so much talent and fail to get to the top flight? Doesn't seem like it.

We had a good summer window in 2016 when for once the money we raised for our best young players was spent wisely, winning us promotion.

The jury is, however, out in relation to the Brooks money, thus far.

There's two sides to your comment. The sale side & the purchase side. I have no issue with the sale side as long as it is for roughly the market value of the player and we protect ourselves on any future upside. Selling your best players is a reality of modern football, everyone except Barca & Real have to do it. We've been daftly good in recent years in bringing players through our youth system, although we could do with a striker

The other side, the purchase side is where we've been possibly weak. We've not identified or developed bought players at a satisfactory quality to get us promoted. The discrepancy in wages also makes it difficult for us to take a player swap as part of any deal. I've said before that it seems to me that we don't seem to exploit the teams below us in the food chain as ruthlessly as we should. As soon as a player emerges at Barnsley, Rotherham, Doncaster, Chesterfied or Mansfield, we should buy them in the same manner as Leeds have hoovered up our players over the years.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Yes the comparison is there ,it was obviouse. that Walker was a great player
in the making and Brooks is just the same.
Both have the mental strength to acheave at the top level.Yes we will get the windfall quicker with Brooks it's just a shame we havnt been able to enjoy them in there pomp,Brooks will go all the way.
He is still a rocky in experience terms but his quality ties are all there to see

I'm sorry FB, I disagree with you. Unless you know DB personally, you can't accurately comment on his 'mental strength'. He has done nothing, nor found himself in a situation where the presence or lack of mental strength has shown itself. If you were being honest he cuts the demeanor of little boy lost. He is a youngish player with potential, who showed it fleetingly last season, that's it. He showed this last night, some nice touches, well taken goal, good feet, drifted out of the game & got subbed early (as he does in the majority of games he plays). His potential relates to his technique, but his physical stature counts against him. He has the body of someone 3 to 5 years younger, and that yin/yang has been present throughout his career. It's the reason why he was signed, then released by Man City and found his way to us. At 16 he looked 11.

He's done nothing to suggest he's going to be one of the games greats. It looks like he can play at in the prem, but so can a lot of players. Last night he shared a pitch with Simon Francis, Junior Stanislas and Ryan Fraser.

All the way? When you compare him to Foden, it's laughable. To be honest, when you compare him to Grealish it's laughable. There are 20 clubs in Europe whom I consider to be the 'big' clubs (21 including Wednesday), within that number there are 5 who are the 'very big' clubs. Brooks will not end up at any of those. Why? Because he's not good enough and there are better available without having to look for them. You could name 20 players of a similar age, who play in a similar position for clubs in europe who are better than DB now, and have more potential.

If it was apparent that he was such a good player, why did no one put an offer in post Toulon in '17? At a time when £750k to £1m would've secured his services. Why after such a rip roaring season with us last year did only Bournemouth put a bid in for him? When you would've thought that teams like Watford, Cardiff, Everton, Brighton, Leicester, West Ham, Southampton, Fulham, in fact any team outside the top 3 would've had the resources & need for a high quality young player at a price less than £20m, would've been camping outside BDTBL to get first dibs on him.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

It was also said on more than one occasion that Brooks would not be leaving if Wilder didn't want him to go. And yet he left despite the fact that Wilder didn't want him to go.

Not to go over old ground, but he’s also said from day 1 that he doesn’t want to keep players that don’t want to be here. The bit I was responding to was the suggestion Brooks did want to stay. He didn’t. The minute he didn’t will have impacted on Wilder’s approach. Arguing the merits of that approach is separate to the question of whether Brooks wanted to the stay or not.

 

[Pinchy]

Does a sell on clause mean this DOES belong in General Blades Chat?

Unless there is a Sanity Clause.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

I'm sorry but he just wasn't.

Let's not rewrite history.

He had one good match on Sky against Wednesday and then scored a winning goal at Elland Road shortly after.

Apart from that he did fuck all. He was absent with an injury for three months of the season.

The average football fan who didn't watch the derby at Hillsborough wouldn't have a clue who he was.

It’s difficult to disagree with this. Much as I like the kid, I can never understand this assertion that United sold him cheaply. I still think we got very good money for a relatively unproven player. Every time he performs a Cruyff turn our moaners start hopping up and down about his transfer fee.

He’s a player with potential, we can all see he has a little bit about him but it’s very early days still. He’s had 3 or 4 good games for Bournemouth and has scored a good goal. It’s hardly time to conclude that he’s world class. He’s doing well for a young player but as we all know, the hardest part is doing it consistently at the top level. He’s as likely to become a forgotten journeyman as he is to become a notable top flight player. I genuinely hope he’s the latter, as he seems a nice lad and it’s good for the reputation of our academy. I still think United got a good fee for him and without the benefit of hindsight I’ll believe that irrespective of what Brooks does in the future.

If he scores 10 goals, gets 5+ assists and pushes Bournemouth into the top half with it this season, I might change my mind.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Just scored a beauty for Bournemouth!! Get in lad!!

Is he that Man City youngster who played half a dozen times for us

 

[Northyorksblade]

He means “Kybosh”

He knew

 

[finlaytheblade]

I'm sorry FB, I disagree with you. Unless you know DB personally, you can't accurately comment on his 'mental strength'. He has done nothing, nor found himself in a situation where the presence or lack of mental strength has shown itself. If you were being honest he cuts the demeanor of little boy lost. He is a youngish player with potential, who showed it fleetingly last season, that's it. He showed this last night, some nice touches, well taken goal, good feet, drifted out of the game & got subbed early (as he does in the majority of games he plays). His potential relates to his technique, but his physical stature counts against him. He has the body of someone 3 to 5 years younger, and that yin/yang has been present throughout his career. It's the reason why he was signed, then released by Man City and found his way to us. At 16 he looked 11.

He's done nothing to suggest he's going to be one of the games greats. It looks like he can play at in the prem, but so can a lot of players. Last night he shared a pitch with Simon Francis, Junior Stanislas and Ryan Fraser.

All the way? When you compare him to Foden, it's laughable. To be honest, when you compare him to Grealish it's laughable. There are 20 clubs in Europe whom I consider to be the 'big' clubs (21 including Wednesday), within that number there are 5 who are the 'very big' clubs. Brooks will not end up at any of those. Why? Because he's not good enough and there are better available without having to look for them. You could name 20 players of a similar age, who play in a similar position for clubs in europe who are better than DB now, and have more potential.

If it was apparent that he was such a good player, why did no one put an offer in post Toulon in '17? At a time when £750k to £1m would've secured his services. Why after such a rip roaring season with us last year did only Bournemouth put a bid in for him? When you would've thought that teams like Watford, Cardiff, Everton, Brighton, Leicester, West Ham, Southampton, Fulham, in fact any team outside the top 3 would've had the resources & need for a high quality young player at a price less than £20m, would've been camping outside BDTBL to get first dibs on him.

He showed mental strength to beleave in himself when tossed on scrap heap by city
he was rated too small by them and others.
He also shows it in the way he .plays.
In any case let's just wait and see how far he goes I'm confident I'm right with Brooksy

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Will be due a windfall sooner rather than later.Brooks will soon out grow Bournemouth And move to a really big club or even abroad.
A great player in the making,everything about his game his class and his awareness and first touch is top drawer.
Would have been nice to have seen a bit more of him in a blades shirt,
He is mentally strong which will help him along the way to the top.

Its not a case of out growing a club its agents getting the most out of their asset.

Look at Maguire, his next move will be for a lot ofmoney to a top 6 club who could have bought him for the same money that Hull paid but it was not in the agents interest.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

At least he didn't go to Leeds, like so many of our past stars.

Come back next season when they've been promoted.

 

[Sheffsteel]

He showed mental strength to beleave in himself when tossed on scrap heap by city
he was rated too small by them and others.
He also shows it in the way he .plays.
In any case let's just wait and see how far he goes I'm confident I'm right with Brooksy

By the law of averages, eventually a top talent sold by United will deliver.
I remember loads adamant that Che Adams would become a England international playing for a top 6 club.
Our fans said he was our future, we should never sell because he could lead us into the PL.
Apparently he was the biggest talent in decades and we should have waited for a 10 million+ bid.

Most of our fans wait until after a player has made it big Walker, Maguire, then say we should have never sold.
It’s a weird logic because keeping Walker and Maguire doesn’t automatically mean we’d have been promoted from league 1.
Players are suited to different teams, if Brooks was here he’d still struggle to start matches for us.
Although he would be in training to do the Duffy role and I believe would have progressed into a real star,
however presently Duffy is a far better player for our style of play and team structure.
We’ve used some of the Brooks money to buy Egan, Norwood and McGoldrick, so this has turned into a great deal for us, this is a deal that’s a win/ win/ win for both clubs and the player.

 

[Sean Thornton]

By the law of averages, eventually a top talent sold by United will deliver.
I remember loads adamant that Che Adams would become a England international playing for a top 6 club.
Our fans said he was our future, we should never sell because he could lead us into the PL.
Apparently he was the biggest talent in decades and we should have waited for a 10 million+ bid.

Most of our fans wait until after a player has made it big Walker, Maguire, then say we should have never sold.
It’s a weird logic because keeping Walker and Maguire doesn’t automatically mean we’d have been promoted from league 1.
Players are suited to different teams, if Brooks was here he’d still struggle to start matches for us.
Although he would be in training to do the Duffy role and I believe would have progressed into a real star,
however presently Duffy is a far better player for our style of play and team structure.
We’ve used some of the Brooks money to buy Egan, Norwood and McGoldrick, so this has turned into a great deal for us, this is a deal that’s a win/ win/ win for both clubs and the player.

Although I'm a great fan of exaggeration, sometimes one can go too far. Your comments regarding Che Adams are one of those occasions.

If only TyBash were still around.....

 

[mattbianco1]

He really looks the part tonight. Bourmouth are a good fit for him....he’s just got booked as I typed, hope I haven’t cowboshed him.

First time I've watched a full Bournemouth game tbh. I watched it because of Brooks.

They play in a way not too dissimilar to us. Short fast intricate passing looking for an opening. Really were a joy to watch in phases last night. They could emulate last season's Burnley.

Onto Brooks - great goal, destined for big things but once again he drifted in and out of the game as we used to see for us. If he can up his game to be quality for 70 mins instead of 10-15, he'll be one hell of a player. Long way to go for him yet but he's at a good team to develop.

Bloke on Twitter last night was arguing that he's better than Maddison

 

[madeinsheffield]

Its not a case of out growing a club its agents getting the most out of their asset.

Look at Maguire, his next move will be for a lot ofmoney to a top 6 club who could have bought him for the same money that Hull paid but it was not in the agents interest.

Might be a while, he's just signed a 5 year contract and spoke about loyalty along with the fact he wouldn't have gone to the World Cup if Leicester hadn't bought, developed and played him. I don't expect him to stay there 5 years but he's a settled player.

Probably waiting for us to be established in the top tier so he can have his dream move back....

 

[I should coco]

If only TyBash were still around.....

I suppose posting stuff about the 'wonder kid' that was JEC must eventually get out there into the ether.

It's a bit like summoning up the spirirts of dead Indian ancestors. Perhaps a few more threads about how useless and fat Billy is, and a tortured soul may rise from the 'dead'.....

 

[Sheffsteel]

All this talk of Brooks reminds me of having an ex wife where the relationship ran its course, so you mutually decided to divorce.
A year later you are told that your ex has a new boyfriend who happens to be rich, successful and good llooking.

A mate tells you they saw them getting out of his brand new Porsche Cayenne, then going into a fancy restaurant on Ecclesall Road.

What is you reaction?

A: Do you become jealous and think you made a big mistake splitting up? The logic being then if this local millionaire thinks you ex is worthy of a relationship then that means she’s “a catch” and you should have worked harder to stay together.

B: Do you have no interest what’s so ever as she is in the past, so is now irrelevant?

C: Do you think “well done hope it works out”, have no malice appreciating that things weren’t right with you but that doesn’t mean she can’t be a good match with another man.

Personally I’d choose option C.
I’m always mildly interested in how our ex players progress and hope Brooks has a good career at Bournemouth.
However just because he might be great at Bournemouth doesn’t mean he’d have been great at Sheff Utd, it’s a different time in his developement, different tactics and different players.

 

[I should coco]

What is you reaction?

A: Do you become jealous and think you made a big mistake splitting up? The logic being then if this local millionaire thinks you ex is worthy of a relationship then that means you should have worked harder to stay together.

B: Do you have no interest what’s so ever as she is in the past, so is now irrelevant?

C: Do you think “well done hope it works out”, have no malice appreciating that things weren’t right with you but that doesn’t mean she can’t be a good match with another man.

Personally I’d choose option C.

Option D - Go down the side of his Porsche with a key, then rush off to buy a dog. Send dog turds daily throught the post to the bastard show off couple, who you detest with all your might.

I did that for quite a while, although since the injunction I've had to use other non-local post boxes and write the envelopes with my left hand. I've got to go now as there is someone at the door......

 

[Sean Thornton]

All this talk of Brooks reminds me of having an ex wife where the relationship ran its course, so you mutually decided to divorce.
A year later you are told that your ex has new boyfriend who happens to be rich, successful and good llooking.

A mate tells you they saw them getting out of his brand new Porsche Cayenne, then going into a fancy restaurant on Ecclesall Road.

What is you reaction?

A: Do you become jealous and think you made a big mistake splitting up? The logic being then if this local millionaire thinks you ex is worthy of a relationship then that means she’s “a catch” and you should have worked harder to stay together.

B: Do you have no interest what’s so ever as she is in the past, so is now irrelevant?

C: Do you think “well done hope it works out”, have no malice appreciating that things weren’t right with you but that doesn’t mean she can’t be a good match with another man.

Personally I’d choose option C.
I’m always mildly interested in how our ex players progress and hope Brooks has a good career at Bournemouth.
However just because he might be great at Bournemouth doesn’t mean he’d have been great at Sheff Utd, it’s a different time in his developement, different tactics and different players.

Let it go mate. She's moved on.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Option D - Go down the side of his Porsche with a key, then rush off to buy a dog. Send dog turds daily throught the post to the bastard show off couple, who you detest with all your might.

I did that for quite a while, although since the injunction I've had to use other non-local post boxes and write the envelopes with my left hand. I've got to go now as there is someone at the door......

There's no one at the door......

 

[Sheffsteel]

Let it go mate. She's moved on.

Actually it’s very close to the truth ha ha.
But many decades later i’m very happy in my current relationship, suppose that makes a big difference.

My personal life is like the current Sheff Utd, doing well with a realistic chance of the PL.
I suppose if my life was like Chesterfield FC, then i’d probably chose option D too and still be bitter about past sales.

 

[FinchleyBlade]

Will go on to be the best player that's ever come through our academy (I know we got him after his release from City but w/e).

 

[I should coco]

But many decades later i’m very happy in my current relationship, suppose that makes a big difference.

It's allright mate, you can tell us.

I've run your post through my Freudian app and I can see how deeply unhappy you are now. The use of the lower case 'i' clearly shows you feel your new partner is much inferior to Mrs Porsche and by the way, it's pretty obvious you want to shag your mum.....

 

[I should coco]

Will go on to be the best player that's ever come through our academy

A good shout that and some pretty stiff competition with Jags, and Kyle W, but I reckon that plaudit will go to Harry.

For some reason I just cant see DB having a long career, but I'm confident HM will go on to captain Ingerland.

 

[Sean Thornton]

It's allright mate, you can tell us.

I've run your post through my Freudian app and I can see how deeply unhappy you are now. The use of the lower case 'i' clearly shows you feel your new partner is much inferior to Mrs Porsche and by the way, it's pretty obvious you want to shag your mum.....

You've found your way to Shutter Island again haven't you?

 

[LJBlade]

A good shout that and some pretty stiff competition with Jags, and Kyle W, but I reckon that plaudit will go to Harry.

For some reason I just cant see DB having a long career, but I'm confident HM will go on to captain Ingerland.

As good as he is Maguire isn't a captain.

 

[cahill]

All this talk of Brooks reminds me of having an ex wife where the relationship ran its course, so you mutually decided to divorce.
A year later you are told that your ex has a new boyfriend who happens to be rich, successful and good llooking.

A mate tells you they saw them getting out of his brand new Porsche Cayenne, then going into a fancy restaurant on Ecclesall Road.

What is you reaction?

A: Do you become jealous and think you made a big mistake splitting up? The logic being then if this local millionaire thinks you ex is worthy of a relationship then that means she’s “a catch” and you should have worked harder to stay together.

B: Do you have no interest what’s so ever as she is in the past, so is now irrelevant?

C: Do you think “well done hope it works out”, have no malice appreciating that things weren’t right with you but that doesn’t mean she can’t be a good match with another man.

Personally I’d choose option C.
I’m always mildly interested in how our ex players progress and hope Brooks has a good career at Bournemouth.
However just because he might be great at Bournemouth doesn’t mean he’d have been great at Sheff Utd, it’s a different time in his developement, different tactics and different players.

Option B for Brooks

 

[finlaytheblade]

First time I've watched a full Bournemouth game tbh. I watched it because of Brooks.

They play in a way not too dissimilar to us. Short fast intricate passing looking for an opening. Really were a joy to watch in phases last night. They could emulate last season's Burnley.

Onto Brooks - great goal, destined for big things but once again he drifted in and out of the game as we used to see for us. If he can up his game to be quality for 70 mins instead of 10-15, he'll be one hell of a player. Long way to go for him yet but he's at a good team to develop.

Bloke on Twitter last night was arguing that he's better than Maddison

He's lacking experience and maturity which will come.
Just glad he went to a small club like Bournemouth who won't be able to keep him when the big clubs come knocking.
Ramzsdale is there as well he is another that could bring us a bonus .Maguire went to Hull, better to sell to smallish clubs who can't stop the big clubs pinching them due to wages.Obviously we would like to keep them but if not that's the best way forward for us