Brooks

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Well well well.....what to do.

A player with potential star status at the lane. But still very young.

The professional thing to do would be to allow him a gradual rise through the ranks of the first team, keep as much pressure off him as possible and let him get used to first team football.
So that means in the squad....then a few minutes off the bench when we may well have games won and some cup games.
Then gradually ramp up the pressure and give him more time and responsibility.

If all goes well, he avoids injury and continues his confident play we could have a very important player on our hands just in time to save the chairman buying a player not as good as him in January.

Of course that also means we will have a lot of clubs banging on our door wanting him.
So we need to act now and reward him for his change in status at the club. Whatever we were offering Holmes offer him.
Get him on a longer contract and protect our players value. Then when a club comes in we can genuinely hold out for a big fee.
I can certainly see as much in him as there was in a certain Dele Ali at the same age.

But we all need to remember his age. Which means he will make errors and he will be inconsistent. He needs to be nurtured and encouraged to keep doing what he does.
 
Grizzly blade said:
So we need to act now and reward him for his change in status at the club. Whatever we were offering Holmes offer him.
Get him on a longer contract and protect our players value. Then when a club comes in we can genuinely hold out for a big fee.
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Yep.
 
I'm sorry...if DCL was worth a million or so then this lads worth 10.
DCL never had that in him and still doesn't.

Whoever brought him in from Man City played a blinder there
 
Fair play SUFC for producing the goods once again but meaningless if he isn't tied in to a decent contract.

Wendy youth system though... haha ha
 
I have a dreadful memory, but didn't DCL play a pre-season game last season where everyone raved about him? Just before being sold.
 
I'd like to run the whole scenario, 'is somebody comparing Brooks to ...'
'Draxler' this time, then after that can we have 20 posts about comparing him to Spiderman or somebody
 
Woodwardfan said:
Whiteman is just as good as Brooks in his position. So is Reed.

We may have just started our 'Pathway for Youth', almost by default as Brooks could have been at Chesterfield for the season.

We must give bright young players the supposed 'Pathway' both Wilder and McCabe waxed lyrical about a year ago.

Wilders's Nortahmpton Champions averaged 28 years old. Ours was similar last season, certainly no youngsters featuring much.

As a club we have to encourage our kids, otherwise they leave.
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Sorry mate but neither Whiteman or Reed are anywhere near as good as Brooksy - he has skill and pace which neither of the other 2 have
 
1danewhitehouse said:
Disagree about Naugthon and Maguire. They were both established first team players by Brooks’ age. That’s not an attempt to do Brooks down in any way but Naughton had just completed a season as a key player in a side that just missed out on promotion from the championship.
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I'd love you to come back to this post in about a year's time mate and see if you still disagree with what I'm saying. I know full well that Naughton and Maguire had completed a season in the first team and that they looked liked really good prospects. Which indeed they have turned out to be.

Maybe I'm not explaining myself well enough, but what I'm saying to you is that Brooks is a talent far beyond either of those two. And by some margin too! It helps that he's a striker/attacking midfielder, rather than a defender. But I tell you now that Brooks is the best young player I've EVER seen come through this football club. And I go back over 40 years. Yes, he really is that good. That's what I'm saying.
 
Depressingly we all know that Brooks will be gone before the end of the transfer window as it will always be until we start to be a top flight side
 
Barney said:
Wilder's view on Brooks

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It's poor that from Wilder. I've never had cause to criticise him before, but the facts are that Wilder didn't seem to realise what a talent we had in Brooks until it came up and bit him on the arse. It was only the rave reviews from the England U20 tournament that seem to have alerted Wilder to the fact that this kid really can play and is ready. Hence the late change of mind about allowing him to go to Chesterfield. So when Wilder says, in this interview, "it's what we expected he could do and he's been doing it since the back end of last season and through the summer" then why the hell didn't he get more of a chance to feature in the first team last season, towards the end of the season? And why were we planning to farm him out on a loan to Chesterfield?

The facts are - Wilder didn't really rate him until very recently, when he earned those rave reviews for his England performance. And now the penny has dropped he has just realised that he's probably the most talented and valuable player in the entire club.

Oh and please...no bullshit about the need to "protect" young players. That's something that was coined by Sir Alex Ferguson many years ago and widely misinterpreted. Trevor Francis was a sensation at the highest level at 16 - so was Wayne Rooney. No one wrapped them in cotton wool and we mustn't do that with Brooks either.

Let's get him in the first team from the off and take this sleepy division of bloated ex Premiership clubs by surprise.

And let's enjoy the lad while he's here because I doubt he'll be our player this time next season - and I'd like to see a bit of him before he goes if that's ok?
 
Cerberus Blade said:
It's poor that from Wilder. I've never had cause to criticise him before, but the facts are that Wilder didn't seem to realise what a talent we had in Brooks until it came up and bit him on the arse. It was only the rave reviews from the England U20 tournament that seem to have alerted Wilder to the fact that this kid really can play and is ready. Hence the late change of mind about allowing him to go to Chesterfield. So when Wilder says, in this interview, "it's what we expected he could do and he's been doing it since the back end of last season and through the summer" then why the hell didn't he get more of a chance to feature in the first team last season, towards the end of the season? And why were we planning to farm him out on a loan to Chesterfield?

The facts are - Wilder didn't really rate him until very recently, when he earned those rave reviews for his England performance. And now the penny has dropped he has just realised that he's probably the most talented and valuable player in the entire club.

Oh and please...no bullshit about the need to "protect" young players. That's something that was coined by Sir Alex Ferguson many years ago and widely misinterpreted. Trevor Francis was a sensation at the highest level at 16 - so was Wayne Rooney. No one wrapped them in cotton wool and we mustn't do that with Brooks either.

Let's get him in the first team from the off and take this sleepy division of bloated ex Premiership clubs by surprise.

And let's enjoy the lad while he's here because I doubt he'll be our player this time next season - and I'd like to see a bit of him before he goes if that's ok?
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Fucking brilliant post. Not too sure about the Wilder bit but the rest is absolutely spot on. Wilder comes over 100% genuine as per. Maybe just maybe we'll see Brooks feature in a big way.
 

I'm delighted to hear the lad is doing so well. I ❤️ Talented Players. Young or old; Tinsley or Taipei.

If he's ready, he'll be given a chance by Tufty, because he will have earned that chance by demonstrating excellence.

The same opportunities are there for other young players. Your "game time" is in the U-23s for now boys. Prove you can go a step further. Don't listen to the givemarun brigade. That's Sunday League U/15s claptrap and has no place in professional football.

Youth for youth's sake is utter Bladey Boyband Bollocks. I repeat again, the kids are here for the benefit of our club not the other way round. There's a pathway for anyone good enough. I hope for young David it's a Yellow Brick Road. For the likes of Reed and Long it's a cul de sac I'm afraid, just as it is for the vast majority of young hopefuls.

Quality Counts, not age. That works both ways and that's football.
 
Pinchy said:
I'm delighted to hear the lad is doing so well. I ❤️ Talented Players. Young or old; Tinsley or Taipei.

If he's ready, he'll be given a chance by Tufty, because he will have earned that chance by demonstrating excellence.

The same opportunities are there for other young players. Your "game time" is in the U-23s for now boys. Prove you can go a step further. Don't listen to the givemarun brigade. That's Sunday League U/15s claptrap and has no place in professional football.

Youth for youth's sake is utter Bladey Boyband Bollocks. I repeat again, the kids are here for the benefit of our club not the other way round. There's a pathway for anyone good enough. I hope for young David it's a Yellow Brick Road. For the likes of Reed and Long it's a cul de sac I'm afraid, just as it is for the vast majority of young hopefuls.

Quality Counts, not age. That works both ways and that's football.
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Bang on.
And like you we agree DCL did jack before departing on Platform 9 and 3 quarters.
Brooks on the other hand is different gravy.
It's clear,like a quality cold soup or a finely sliced Spanish Jamon.
He's the real deal,unusual,self assured,demanding and with end product.
He's like a great song,intro,verse,chorus,riff and killer finish.
Enjoy him. He will leave and we will be the poorer for it.
Seriously.
 
The great thing is that Brooks is number 3 on the depth chart behind Duffy and Carruthers. Means we don't have to get another for that position and/or spend money on players like Holmes.

The money can be spent where it's needed
 
Cerberus Blade said:
It's poor that from Wilder. I've never had cause to criticise him before, but the facts are that Wilder didn't seem to realise what a talent we had in Brooks until it came up and bit him on the arse. It was only the rave reviews from the England U20 tournament that seem to have alerted Wilder to the fact that this kid really can play and is ready. Hence the late change of mind about allowing him to go to Chesterfield. So when Wilder says, in this interview, "it's what we expected he could do and he's been doing it since the back end of last season and through the summer" then why the hell didn't he get more of a chance to feature in the first team last season, towards the end of the season? And why were we planning to farm him out on a loan to Chesterfield?

The facts are - Wilder didn't really rate him until very recently, when he earned those rave reviews for his England performance. And now the penny has dropped he has just realised that he's probably the most talented and valuable player in the entire club.

Oh and please...no bullshit about the need to "protect" young players. That's something that was coined by Sir Alex Ferguson many years ago and widely misinterpreted. Trevor Francis was a sensation at the highest level at 16 - so was Wayne Rooney. No one wrapped them in cotton wool and we mustn't do that with Brooks either.

Let's get him in the first team from the off and take this sleepy division of bloated ex Premiership clubs by surprise.

And let's enjoy the lad while he's here because I doubt he'll be our player this time next season - and I'd like to see a bit of him before he goes if that's ok?
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The loan to Chessy wasn't Wilders doing and he wasn't happy about it.
 
Cerberus Blade said:
It's poor that from Wilder. I've never had cause to criticise him before, but the facts are that Wilder didn't seem to realise what a talent we had in Brooks until it came up and bit him on the arse. It was only the rave reviews from the England U20 tournament that seem to have alerted Wilder to the fact that this kid really can play and is ready. Hence the late change of mind about allowing him to go to Chesterfield. So when Wilder says, in this interview, "it's what we expected he could do and he's been doing it since the back end of last season and through the summer" then why the hell didn't he get more of a chance to feature in the first team last season, towards the end of the season? And why were we planning to farm him out on a loan to Chesterfield?

The facts are - Wilder didn't really rate him until very recently, when he earned those rave reviews for his England performance. And now the penny has dropped he has just realised that he's probably the most talented and valuable player in the entire club.

Oh and please...no bullshit about the need to "protect" young players. That's something that was coined by Sir Alex Ferguson many years ago and widely misinterpreted. Trevor Francis was a sensation at the highest level at 16 - so was Wayne Rooney. No one wrapped them in cotton wool and we mustn't do that with Brooks either.

Let's get him in the first team from the off and take this sleepy division of bloated ex Premiership clubs by surprise.

And let's enjoy the lad while he's here because I doubt he'll be our player this time next season - and I'd like to see a bit of him before he goes if that's ok?
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Tufty explained "why the hell" (more entirely unjustified raw anger at our own club) he (and other youngsters) were not selected at the end of last season. Quite reasonably he felt that those who had contributed to the promotion effort should enjoy the champagne games. It was fully discussed on here and most agreed "why the hell" he adopted that policy.

You've rather fervently decided Brooks is the new Maradona. I hope you're right. I suspect Tufty has seen it all before and will be somewhat more circumspect.

Some of us remember a similar fuss about the lad who joined Juventus...
 
Pinchy said:
Tufty explained "why the hell" (more entirely unjustified raw anger at our own club) he (and other youngsters) were not selected at the end of last season. Quite reasonably he felt that those who had contributed to the promotion effort should enjoy the champagne games. It was fully discussed on here and most agreed "why the hell" he adopted that policy.

You've rather fervently decided Brooks is the new Maradona. I hope you're right. I suspect Tufty has seen it all before and will be somewhat more circumspect.

Some of us remember a similar fuss about the lad who joined Juventus...
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As I think you know I tend to agree with you,and respectfully suggest Brooksy (lol) is indeed the real deal.
Unlike the exotically named great pretender currently plying his trade in some agricultural U23 outfit somewhere. With his proud Dad.
 
seanbeenstattoo said:
Bang on.
And like you we agree DCL did jack before departing on Platform 9 and 3 quarters.
Brooks on the other hand is different gravy.
It's clear,like a quality cold soup or a finely sliced Spanish Jamon.
He's the real deal,unusual,self assured,demanding and with end product.
He's like a great song,intro,verse,chorus,riff and killer finish.
Enjoy him. He will leave and we will be the poorer for it.
Seriously.
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I haven't seen enough of him yet. I hope to see more. It seems pretty clear he's going to feature in the first team squad. I suspect Tufty's radio response is intended to keep the young man's feet on the ground. We've all heard similar about young starlets from the likes of Fergie and the Almighty Brian. I've no doubt he's going to be in the match day squad. It's a bit early for 'first name on the team sheet' though. Let's give him room to breathe first.

For those who [deliberately] misunderstand what I say about young players (and it's no more than common sense) there are signs this one might be special and I'm right behind him.
 
Pinchy said:
I haven't seen enough of him yet. I hope to see more. It seems pretty clear he's going to feature in the first team squad. I suspect Tufty's radio response is intended to keep the young man's feet on the ground. We've all heard similar about young starlets from the likes of Fergie and the Almighty Brian. I've no doubt he's going to be in the match day squad. It's a bit early for 'first name on the team sheet' though. Let's give him room to breathe first.

For those who [deliberately] misunderstand what I say about young players (and it's no more than common sense) there are signs this one might be special and I'm right behind him.
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I'm still in A and E having being accused of saying he's better than Messi.
Deep breath.
 
seanbeenstattoo said:
As I think you know I tend to agree with you,and respectfully suggest Brooksy (lol) is indeed the real deal.
Unlike the exotically named great pretender currently plying his trade in some agricultural U23 outfit somewhere. With his proud Dad.
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I really hope so and the signs are good. He certainly appears to be a talented proper footballer. I look forward to seeing him excel. Luckily we've got an excellent Desso surface which is ideal for classy performers.

Three or four more of the right calibre in (I don't mean huge spending - that can lead to Rocky Rhodes) and we might just surprise ourselves...
 
Pinchy said:
I really hope so and the signs are good. He certainly appears to be a talented proper footballer. I look forward to seeing him excel. Luckily we've got an excellent Desso surface which is ideal for classy performers.

Three or four more of the right calibre in (I don't mean huge spending - that can lead to Rocky Rhodes) and we might just surprise ourselves...
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I think the Southend lad will arrive.
Personally I want a keeper to push Moore and another CB with pace and a desire to play out from the back.
That's me. Wilder hints to a striker.Fine if we lose one as no need for Warnockesque numbers.
Very optimistic as we will play the right way. And that is ultimately the way to success.
 
SUFCinks said:
Apologies if posted already - heres his goal



Not bad young lad!

Edit - great goal from oconnell as well
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I love the way Brooksy runs at pace with the ball stuck to his foot - just like Besty, Maradonna and Messi. Him and Caolan are different class together up front.

But we are crying out for a solid DM. Again, we see somebody (COG) run clean through our centre into the box and put the ball into the net, completely untracked and unchallenged.

But with a few more young signings and lads like Bomber Jnr coming through we can build our next generation team around Fleck, JOC, Brooks and Lavery.

UTB - Magic
 

robbiez666 said:
And his experience of playing against senior professional footballers has come from where?

Remember, he almost went to a league 2 side on loan this season.

He needs to be eased into it gently, not thrown into it.

The most skillful player I've seen (who played for ours and Man Us boys sides), could skin everyone you put in front of him but as soon as he got kicked up in the air by someone older her went into hiding. I'm not saying Brooks is the same but friendlies and youth games are a totally different ballgame to Championship football.
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They are different but I played friendlies against evil bastards who would kick you up in the air for the sheer hell of it
I did have the solution to that particular problem. I got my retaliation in first
 
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