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Freudian slip on the 1st line made me chuckle. Mooted/muted :)
Social media is here to stay pal...love it or hate it. I try to embrace it, but I've yet to declare how big my morning shit is...maybe tomorrow.
Agree with your final comment.

I didn't have a morning shit, I feel all left out now.
 

I'm sorry to hear of the sad loss of the pig fan and support the acknowledgement muted on Sunday.
I also totally endorse the views as to where does all this end?
I fucking hate social media. It is full of vacuous cunts with nothing better to say than how big thier morning shit was. Any retarded failed medical experiment with access to the internet can pollute the world with the utter fucking bollux that could have so easily been avoided had their mother kept their fucking legs shut or used contraception.
I hate fucking facebook,twitter and all that. It is populated by shallow wankstains who anyone with a brain would avoid in real life.
Back on topic lets give the guy a round of applause,but as others have rightly said,enough already with regard to homage to every fucking sad thing that happens.



Whilst plenty of what you refer to does indeed occur on the likes of facebook and Twitter, the fact is, they are populated by a wide cross section of people of all sorts of backgrounds, intelligence levels, education etc. The problem is, those who have the least to say of any worth are often those shouting loudest. That’s not a problem limited to social media either. It happens in all walks of life. But I agree, social media does give the most moronic element of society a platform to spread their ill informed views to a wider audience than they could otherwise manage.


I take your point re the potential for overdoing the recognition for every sad event but as you seem to agree with the applause for the Wednesday fan, it seems we both believe this is a worthwhile one. The bloke was reportedly heavily involved in grass roots football and died unexpectedly whilst supporting his club. That makes it a bit more relevant to the football world I think than the passing of every fan (awful though it is for the families involved). Whilst there does seem to be a lot of minute’s applause etc. these days, I must say, I’m yet to hear of one I wasn’t on board with and would say that as that increase is largely down to the word being spread on social media, that is a positive of the same rather than a negative.
 
I absolutely agree with what you say. The best thing about social media would be the introduction of a requirement for the poster to front up whosoever he /she abuses. Gets the fucking shit kicked out of them and closes their Twatbuck account post haste. Life was oh so much more simple when a comment you made was to the face of the recipient.
Facebook. A contradiction in terms.


I somewhat share that sentiment but I suppose the flip side is this. Should people be necessarily be precluded from challenging the views of another for fear that said person might assault them? Do we live in an age where being able to kick the shit out of the person you disagree with gives you some sort of seniority or makes you more worthwhile. I do understand where you’re coming from in relation to the twats on there who just seem to get a kick out of online abuse because they think it’s safe to do so from their keyboard but in many cases, I don’t think it’s as black and white as that. People feel more secure standing up for what they believe without fear of being attacked by some thug who doesn't like his views disagreed with which again, I don't think is a bad thing.
 
Genuine question, would we be having a minutes applause had the Wednesday fan not died at Hillsborough?

Over the years, there must have been many fans who also die relatively young that do plenty for local football, but as their deaths don't make it into the Star, no one cares about minutes applauses.

It just seems a bit like we are doing this to be seen to be doing the right thing as there is media attention, rather than genuinely wanting to pay respect.


I see it a little differently. Most stories like this don’t make the media and therefore, people don’t know about it to give the minute’s applause. However, if the message has been spread and we all know about it, I just take the view of “why wouldn’t we show respect?”. It seems the right thing to do and costs us nothing so if there's a chance that showing such respect could offer the grieving family even the smallest crumb of comfort, why not?
 
It always amazes me how 'social media' is apparently the place for people to vent their spleen using a tirade of foul and abusive words that wouldn't be acceptable in ordinary life. People, you don't need to swear in every post, we have other, non offensive words that would help you make your point more powerfully.

I have sympathy with the OP sentiments, or at least what's left of it after I've removed the expletives. I can only imagine it's the fault of auto fill and auto correct.



Bring back the blades mad days of b@stards, fook, two hats etc.!
 
I take it that's a few of you ruling yourselves out of a minutes applause when the time comes. Perhaps you would want a minute of as many expletives as everyone can think of, SBT? Make the tribute fit the person.;) I think the end-of-season tribute, plus a few exceptional cases, is about right.

Loved it the other week when Warnock announced that when he dies, he doesn't want a minute's applause. He wants all the fans who hated him to give him a minute's booing!
 
My pennies worth, as said above dont agree this is social media in the same way of crapbook and twatter , no one knows who you are ,just views on our blades

I hate social media , self important attention seeking arseholes , online bullying ( bad enough in person for anyone let alone when at home on your own also ) ,used by the pure scum of the earth Isis and co , online grooming , sexting etc

Also hate the way everyone has to look at there phones every five seconds and do selfies ,post where they are on Facebook, when out with mates etc ,

As a dad to 2 young daughters I hate all this social media and will be so worried what evil pieces of shit are trying to prey on them via Facebook etc

Rant over !

Like any communication tool or aid, social media is great but used in the wrong way.the outcomes can be awful. However that is the fault of the user rather than the tool itself. To jump to the conclusion that social media is awful because of Isis is just hyperbolic nonesense.

I am not disagreeing with your concerns though - I have young children and the thought that if they are bullied, this could now continue on social media is a scary one and is the single worst thing about the format I'd say. There is no escape or safe haven of home for bullied children if it continues online.

What I would say though is there is sooo much good that social media and the internet and communcication advances have provided that they more than outweigh the negatives. Indeed putting up a barrier to social media and not having the useage or understanding of the plus points means, as a parent, you are less likely to be able to effectively manage and mitigate risk of your children's social media experience as, like it or not, they will embrace it.

On the whole I think social media (and this site is very much social media even if not as open as others. You still form bonds/directly respond to people and their opinions and through PM can reach out on a more personal level) is and can be a great thing and, even if you disagree, you should try to embrace it and at least benefit from those good aspects - as it isn't going away any time soon.
 
I fucking hate social media. It is full of vacuous cunts with nothing better to say than how big thier morning shit was.

Like football, innit? Just a bunch of overpaid numbskulls kicking a bag of air around for an hour and a half.

You can make anything sound shit if you over-simplify it.
 
People have blamed music, cinema, TV, video games for the ills of society so now it's social media.

Non of it is the real cause of fuckwittery. We are. Humans. We're a bit fucked up and always will be. If you look at history, it's just a series of wars interspersed with natural disasters and plagues. The Vikings didn't invade us because of something someone tweeted, the Normans didn't invade us because we didn't like their photos on facebook, the Spanish Armada didn't launch in response to Queen Elizabeth offering to see King Philip of Spain round the back of Argos and Hitler didn't invade Poland because they took the piss out of him getting his credit card rinsed on a porn site.
 
Like any communication tool or aid, social media is great but used in the wrong way.the outcomes can be awful. However that is the fault of the user rather than the tool itself. To jump to the conclusion that social media is awful because of Isis is just hyperbolic nonesense.

I am not disagreeing with your concerns though - I have young children and the thought that if they are bullied, this could now continue on social media is a scary one and is the single worst thing about the format I'd say. There is no escape or safe haven of home for bullied children if it continues online.

What I would say though is there is sooo much good that social media and the internet and communcication advances have provided that they more than outweigh the negatives. Indeed putting up a barrier to social media and not having the useage or understanding of the plus points means, as a parent, you are less likely to be able to effectively manage and mitigate risk of your children's social media experience as, like it or not, they will embrace it.

On the whole I think social media (and this site is very much social media even if not as open as others. You still form bonds/directly respond to people and their opinions and through PM can reach out on a more personal level) is and can be a great thing and, even if you disagree, you should try to embrace it and at least benefit from those good aspects - as it isn't going away any time soon.

i merely was using ISIS of one of many examples of the negative impact of social media
i completely agree that as any parent, we all must unfortunately embrace/understand it and should never put up a barrier against it as you say its not going away !

just one of many things in these times where people seem to be ' celebrity obsessed ' and want fame and fortune ( for doing nothing )and demand constant attention
facebook, twitter , the endless ,hideous amount of reality tv and 'stars' that appear in them or become one from doing nothing except mainly taking there clothes off/ being an arse or both !

i agree , it is the users that are at fault ,

just wont to be poking anyone soon myself !! but that's enough about my issues :)
 

People have blamed music, cinema, TV, video games for the ills of society so now it's social media.

Non of it is the real cause of fuckwittery. We are. Humans. We're a bit fucked up and always will be. If you look at history, it's just a series of wars interspersed with natural disasters and plagues. The Vikings didn't invade us because of something someone tweeted, the Normans didn't invade us because we didn't like their photos on facebook, the Spanish Armada didn't launch in response to Queen Elizabeth offering to see King Philip of Spain round the back of Argos and Hitler didn't invade Poland because they took the piss out of him getting his credit card rinsed on a porn site.


BladesMad. Don't forget BladesMad.
 
People have blamed music, cinema, TV, video games for the ills of society so now it's social media.

Non of it is the real cause of fuckwittery. We are. Humans. We're a bit fucked up and always will be. If you look at history, it's just a series of wars interspersed with natural disasters and plagues. The Vikings didn't invade us because of something someone tweeted, the Normans didn't invade us because we didn't like their photos on facebook, the Spanish Armada didn't launch in response to Queen Elizabeth offering to see King Philip of Spain round the back of Argos and Hitler didn't invade Poland because they took the piss out of him getting his credit card rinsed on a porn site.

I'm told Chamberlain's "piece of paper" was actually a telegram from a Nigerian Prince asking for his Bank Account Number and Sort Code. Mussolini thought this was piss funny, wasn't laughing so much when Big Nev finally got his own back and hung the bastard from a lamp post though.
 
I'm sorry to hear of the sad loss of the pig fan and support the acknowledgement muted on Sunday.
I also totally endorse the views as to where does all this end?
I fucking hate social media. It is full of vacuous cunts with nothing better to say than how big thier morning shit was. Any retarded failed medical experiment with access to the internet can pollute the world with the utter fucking bollux that could have so easily been avoided had their mother kept their fucking legs shut or used contraception.
I hate fucking facebook,twitter and all that. It is populated by shallow wankstains who anyone with a brain would avoid in real life.
Back on topic lets give the guy a round of applause,but as others have rightly said,enough already with regard to homage to every fucking sad thing that happens.

theres things that happen which are sad outside football like young kids contracting cancer which are very sad but nothing to do with football
but when a fan dies within a ground its relevant to us
bradford city fire , very relevant
96 liverpool fans at relevant
heysel , rangers disaster
munich air crash all relevant
so surely every single fan who dies at a football ground is relevant to the football family we all go to games expecting to go home afterwards
those that dont deserve a bit of thought

we arent talking about opinions on who was bad on britains got talent
 
Meh.

Enough people will clap to make it respectful, so you don't have to clap if you don't want to.

The clap to fill the delayed kick off before Coventry went on for ages. Couldn't clap all the way through that.

Not with a nuclear chicken Balti pie on the go.
 
Heard a recent observer say imagine a bloke with severe chest and arm pains who goes on social media to ask what to do. Ten doctors reply saying phone an ambulance or get down to A&E asap. One other person replies saying give it a month or two and see if it gets better but they get twenty likes so he goes with the majority........

The observer was trying to make a point about global climate change but I suspect this kind of logic applies to lots of social media stuff.
 
This forum is a great opportunity to mix with fellow fans who we would otherwise not come into contact with, apart from maybe a couple of in the stand at an away game or in a queue at the match or in the pub beforehand.

Foxy and Linz have the impossible task of moderating behaviour and have been accused of being too strict; it's am impossible job and each member surely has his/her own responsibilty for overall standards as well as their own.

I tried to hold a mirror up to some on here, including the O.P. funnily enough but it doesn't work, certain fellow Blades have no recognisable standards of decent behaviour. As a result a large number of more serious but knowledgeable contributors choose not to mix with them, even on this anonymous forum and they leave. It is a lost opportunity for everyone.

I love banter but I hate personal abuse, even that aimed at a pseudonym by a pseudonym. Respect fellow Blades' opinions and join debates with opinion not aggression. There is a certain element on here who try to discredit and attack fellow fans, egg each other on and applaud vile behaviour, just like any gang of bullies in real life. Usually the worst bullies have the least to say about football and attack anybody who dares to express opinions.
 
Last point is on the mark to be fair - at Wednesday they seem to have a minutes applause or such like nearly every home game at the moment according to some of their fans I know and apparently it's starting to wear a bit thin - as you'd expect, it's resonance diminishes each time it's done for every Tom Dick & Harry that passes.

Fair enough for the guy they're doing it for this weekend - he died whilst sat on their Kop, it's fair game. Not sure why we need to get involved but whatever. Quite liked the think we did last home game with the applause for all those that have gone during the season, seemed to work.


The guy was around local footie for many years.
 
I used to go on national football sites , football league the championship , but its so full of people who just call you a c*nt no matter what you put
or are abusive as the norm , its supposed to be an exchange of opinions not your a **** fest it always descends into .
Trouble is since android took over too many with the attention span of a goldfish get involved , and as soon as they they think they are losing an argument descend into swearing or calling someone a div
 
Social media is something that has followed on from mobile phones as one of the biggest problems to face humans in recent times. As a 21 year old, I've always had phones and computers in my life to varying degrees of complexity. I've seen technology advance at an alarming rate to levels which I never thought would be possible. Let me start by dissecting the different problems we face, points that have already been outlined to some extent:

Childhood:

As a child, I never had a mobile phone before the age of 11 but had access to a computer to allow me to do school work. I had lots of friends who I saw often - IN PERSON. We used to meet up and play football regularly and socialise, we seldom talked to each other via a device. This enabled me to develop my interpersonal skills and adapt to socialising with different people in different situations. When I was younger, I used the internet for information alongside books. For fun, I would often make my own games which would often involve me making my own football teams and acting out the teams - sad I know but it involved an imagination. I may read a book or later in childhood, play my guitar. I went to the Lane and met up with my mates outside school. Children today from a very young age are given Ipads as a means of entertainment. Many people are talking to each other online instead of face to face. This will not help children in their development. It is very damaging. Many children are glued to tablets for hours in a day and parents complain they spend too much time on them. Well they only have themselves to blame.

Adolescence/young adulthood:

Currently in this period of my life. I've noticed changes over years when out with friends. People are looking down at phones more often than talking to each other. It is killing social interaction. What is that important that it takes precedent over the current moment?

Social media:

It is acceptable if used correctly but the vast majority do not. I have deleted facebook, snapchat, instagram and twitter off my phone but kept the messenger app as it is useful for keeping in touch with my friends and making plans. When I'm on my death bed, I want to look back at my life and see that I spent my time wisely. I don't really care what people have to say on my friends list; I don't care what they've had for tea and I don't care what rock they've climbed up in the Peak District. I am happy with my life and I don't feel the need to tell everyone what I've been doing. I don't feel the need to gain acceptance from others and I don't need them to validate what I do. The people I do care about I see in real life and talk to them face to face.

I was talking to someone the other day who says he uses facebook to waste time - to waste time...unbelievable Jeff. We are on this planet for a finite number of years and he needs to pass time quickly? Surely a joke. One thing that irritates me the most about it, people not living in the moment. I went to a gig the other month and I watched a band who I look on very fondly and was looking forward to seeing them for the first time. A sea of mobile phones came up when they entered the stage and visibly, many were videoing it to update their snapchat stories. Who the hell cares? When I had snapchat, I used to skip people's gig videos. How will their memories compare to mine of the gig? I remember the songs and watching them play it. They watched it through a camera phone for the purpose of validation from others, others who don't really care to validate it. Everyone seems to care far too much how others view them.

'Like whores' are the bane of social media. Number of likes are not directly proportional to social status. FACT. One final point as I'm sure your eyelids are struggling at this point - what goes on social media is a very warped view of real life. Very few people post status', photos or videos of themselves at their lowest points. People show you what they want you to see. I've known people who are depressed putting things on social media making out they have a great life, well not exactly pal, that's not what you were telling me the other day. It's all false.

I'm not posting this to stop people using social media or phones. I still use messenger app and twitter (on my laptop) to keep tabs on United but that is all and you know what? I'm more productive, I make even more effort to keep in touch with my friends, I live in the moment and I am happier. Lessons can be learnt from all this. Hopefully one day in the future, humanity will realise and we will go back to how it was before but I doubt that this will be the case.
 
I'm sorry to hear of the sad loss of the pig fan and support the acknowledgement muted on Sunday.
I also totally endorse the views as to where does all this end?
I fucking hate social media. It is full of vacuous cunts with nothing better to say than how big thier morning shit was. Any retarded failed medical experiment with access to the internet can pollute the world with the utter fucking bollux that could have so easily been avoided had their mother kept their fucking legs shut or used contraception.
I hate fucking facebook,twitter and all that. It is populated by shallow wankstains who anyone with a brain would avoid in real life.
Back on topic lets give the guy a round of applause,but as others have rightly said,enough already with regard to homage to every fucking sad thing that happens.
FFS Sean come off the F*****g fence for once.

UTB
 

Social media is something that has followed on from mobile phones as one of the biggest problems to face humans in recent times. As a 21 year old, I've always had phones and computers in my life to varying degrees of complexity. I've seen technology advance at an alarming rate to levels which I never thought would be possible. Let me start by dissecting the different problems we face, points that have already been outlined to some extent:

Childhood:

As a child, I never had a mobile phone before the age of 11 but had access to a computer to allow me to do school work. I had lots of friends who I saw often - IN PERSON. We used to meet up and play football regularly and socialise, we seldom talked to each other via a device. This enabled me to develop my interpersonal skills and adapt to socialising with different people in different situations. When I was younger, I used the internet for information alongside books. For fun, I would often make my own games which would often involve me making my own football teams and acting out the teams - sad I know but it involved an imagination. I may read a book or later in childhood, play my guitar. I went to the Lane and met up with my mates outside school. Children today from a very young age are given Ipads as a means of entertainment. Many people are talking to each other online instead of face to face. This will not help children in their development. It is very damaging. Many children are glued to tablets for hours in a day and parents complain they spend too much time on them. Well they only have themselves to blame.

Adolescence/young adulthood:

Currently in this period of my life. I've noticed changes over years when out with friends. People are looking down at phones more often than talking to each other. It is killing social interaction. What is that important that it takes precedent over the current moment?

Social media:

It is acceptable if used correctly but the vast majority do not. I have deleted facebook, snapchat, instagram and twitter off my phone but kept the messenger app as it is useful for keeping in touch with my friends and making plans. When I'm on my death bed, I want to look back at my life and see that I spent my time wisely. I don't really care what people have to say on my friends list; I don't care what they've had for tea and I don't care what rock they've climbed up in the Peak District. I am happy with my life and I don't feel the need to tell everyone what I've been doing. I don't feel the need to gain acceptance from others and I don't need them to validate what I do. The people I do care about I see in real life and talk to them face to face.

I was talking to someone the other day who says he uses facebook to waste time - to waste time...unbelievable Jeff. We are on this planet for a finite number of years and he needs to pass time quickly? Surely a joke. One thing that irritates me the most about it, people not living in the moment. I went to a gig the other month and I watched a band who I look on very fondly and was looking forward to seeing them for the first time. A sea of mobile phones came up when they entered the stage and visibly, many were videoing it to update their snapchat stories. Who the hell cares? When I had snapchat, I used to skip people's gig videos. How will their memories compare to mine of the gig? I remember the songs and watching them play it. They watched it through a camera phone for the purpose of validation from others, others who don't really care to validate it. Everyone seems to care far too much how others view them.

'Like whores' are the bane of social media. Number of likes are not directly proportional to social status. FACT. One final point as I'm sure your eyelids are struggling at this point - what goes on social media is a very warped view of real life. Very few people post status', photos or videos of themselves at their lowest points. People show you what they want you to see. I've known people who are depressed putting things on social media making out they have a great life, well not exactly pal, that's not what you were telling me the other day. It's all false.

I'm not posting this to stop people using social media or phones. I still use messenger app and twitter (on my laptop) to keep tabs on United but that is all and you know what? I'm more productive, I make even more effort to keep in touch with my friends, I live in the moment and I am happier. Lessons can be learnt from all this. Hopefully one day in the future, humanity will realise and we will go back to how it was before but I doubt that this will be the case.
The changes I've seen are phenomenal. And I'm not that old. When I grew up, there were no mobile phones, that was just Star Trek. A lot of people didn't have landlines. You actually had to go round to your mate's to see if he was in, and if so, if he was coming out. We had one TV, black and white with 3 channels.

It's a different world now and I don't know what is right, how to get a balance so that kids can get the best out of modern technology but still get plenty of human interaction. I think it makes parenting quite hard in some ways. That said, I still see plenty of kids carrying balls, playing football and basketball in the local park so some people must be getting it right.
 

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