Steve Mackan
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How so?I'm sorry, but that's verging on nonsense.
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How so?I'm sorry, but that's verging on nonsense.
As far as I know the 'horrendous shit' was a Twitter insult from a single person. Thousands have since condemned it.So you're questioning the actions of Didzy then are you? The bloke who had the horrendous shit messaged to him because he had the temerity to score in a football match?
Would be interesting to see the views of BAME community regulars and visitors BEFORE the rest of us chime up.
FFS there are 60 million plus people in this country and everyone picks up on a couple of idiotic wankers.
Plus this mantra " institutional racism " is another loadda bollox.
Read the article I posted and you'll see that what we're talking about is not the racism of individuals. It's the everyday stuff. Twitter/Facebook awash with it.As far as I know the 'horrendous shit' was a Twitter insult from a single person. Thousands have since condemned it.
We will never totally stop provocative Idiots who try to stir things. They are usually kids who grow out of it. The massive reaction to the Tweet says a lot about how popular racists are these days
It's awful to hear about experiences like that, but it's important too. There are lots of responses suggesting 'I've never seen racism in Bramall Lane', and I really struggle to believe that.How does a middle aged white guy feel? Its not long ago I was sat with my friend who is Black and his two daughters. We were on the kop. At one point during the game a guy a couple of rows back shouted out you black C**t. Pretty despicable language regardless of the colour of the person it is aimed at.
That was the day I really started to understand the casual racism that is prevalent in our society. What's it like to deal with it every day, I can't imagine.
I posted about that incident only to get a majority reply that if I don't want to hear that kind of language, don't go on the Kop.
I think it is far less prevalent in Sheffield than places like London, but let's not kid ourselves, racism is there casual or otherwise.
I grew up in the 70's and our world is a far better place than it used to be, but we still have a way to go.
That's an excellent article, Sam. Hits all the right notes in terms of the sorts of thoughts and phrases your average white person needs to acknowledge in order to assist change.
Badges/stickers purchased. I'll be keeping tabs on BAR's progress to see how I can get involved.
To be clear.
It would not surprise me one jot if the majority (not all) of genuine racists live in or around the London area. That a higher overall percentage of that particular population are racist.
I could be wrong !!
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I don't think it matters if the views of BAME fans come before/after other opinions, but it certainly matters that those views are heard and listened to.
Yes, I have one or two issues with the prospect of anything that allows all conversations to be recorded.Effectively yes.
Any issues?
But how can you object if it's in the cause of anti racism? Do you have something to hide?Yes, I have one or two issues with the prospect of anything that allows all conversations to be recorded.
Don’t be a twat.But how can you object if it's in the cause of anti racism? Do you have something to hide?
No YOU got it wrong. The comment was meant sarcastically, apart from the last sentence. A lot of racism is to do with fear, about not being able to go in certain areas, seeing the violent crime records etc. My comments don't need dissecting and they are just an opinion. As for your remark about Didzy, I think you need to take a good look at yourself.
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Not heard or seen any in years. Can remember going on Chelsea's Kop and it was like a recruiting campaign for the then NF. Coloured players these days are, apart from some minor occurrences, totally accepted.
Somewhat but you have to go to the kind of sites that foment it. Also to listen to Dianne Abbott, Corbyn and their ilk.
Tricky but the media have to stop broadcasting all the murders, violent crimes and gang warfare perpetuated by ethnic "minorities" . Then the racists wouldn't have a boat to paddle. You just look at the Police/Crime documentaries and it appears that they are the main, if not nearly all, the perpetraters.
Nothing needs to change. games are well regulated by the fans themselves.
Yes, I have one or two issues with the prospect of anything that allows all conversations to be recorded.
I meant in the context that non bame fans could see how they felt and commented on that rather than go over all our old ground.
really ..........If any fans are alienated by any measures the club takes then they are part of the problem.
If you'd like to get involved, especially if you're from a BAME background, then let's talk about it...
... do you think racism is present in stadia?
... do you think racism is present online?
.. what can be done among the grassroots to make racists feel uncomfortable?
... how does the club fulfil its promise of 'something has to change' without alienating some fans?
Then don't go into the ground. Which is private property.
Sean Thornton I'm saying more cameras and more audio equipment placed directly in the terraces.
A while back when we were playing Bradford at home I couldn't make out what people were singing and then my dad told me it was "United hate f'ing ISIS". I think I saw something saying United were fined for this?
What you’re proposing is illegal and with good reason. The fact that it’s private property is neither here nor there.Then don't go into the ground. Which is private property.
Sean Thornton I'm saying more cameras and more audio equipment placed directly in the terraces.
Unbelievable left wing claptrap.I think a lot of education is needed about racism an the wider context it occurs in. To me only someone being deliberately obtuse can claim it’s not an issue in society. You only have to see the police brutality stories, see the abuse football players receive on a daily base etc etc - if you can look at that an claim there is no issue or nothing wrong, I’m afraid you’re part of the problem.
I don’t believe the Lane is terrible for it by any means - but there is more than can and should be done to irradiate it. Even if you only believe it’s a tiny % of people. It should be totally unacceptable
imagine McGoldrick (or anyone) Having to wake up to those type of messages. Imagine it being some cunts response to one of your proudest achievements and something you’d probably dreamed of doing all your life. It’s heartbreaking.
What you’re proposing is illegal and with good reason. The fact that it’s private property is neither here nor there.
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