blackwells transfers

[judge]

best results of any SUFC manager, saved us from relegation, almost got us automatic promotion, started season brightly, all in the contaxt of having to sell some prize assetts and reducng the wagebill enormously. The football isn't as aesthetically pleasing to the eye as we'd all like, too much of the time. That said, the "hoofball" tag is a gross simplification used by simple people.

There's a thread on here about what's gone wrong at Sheffield United. For me, it's fans like you and Beighton - you make me cringe and I despair that you "support" our club.

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i'll drink to that alcoblade :drunk::nana::drunk:

 

[SwissBlade]

Optimism growing...

I think Blackie's done a really good job in the window. We finally managed to keep a player (Killa) but had the bids been from PL clubs and not Boro and Newcastle would we have buckled and let him go for £30? Who knows? Perhaps McCabe realised the fallout that could've occurred had we sold him.

We all know last season was disappointing and a lot of players didn't live up to the hype. I'm glad to say that all but Quinny have been shifted out and in Quinny's case he's had a short spell out and appears to have come back better. Only time will tell, but it should also send a message to the rest of the squad that medicrity is not acceptable and only those prepared to be at their best are worthy of the red and white.

Its still too early for an opinion of the summer signings but the reports have been pretty good so far and we're creating chances.

My only concern is the squad is already stretched and we have very little cover at the back.

This concern is tempered by the fact that we can now get some loan players in and perhaps we can blood some youngsters around the new year when hopefully we will have a couple of them returning from Fradi.

This season is unusual, its still very early but my confidence is slowly growing, normally its the other way around! And if Sky stop moving games Monday nights then i'll be able to get to the lane and see a few games for myself!

 

[jose_d_blade]

best results of any SUFC manager, saved us from relegation, almost got us automatic promotion, started season brightly, all in the context of having to sell some prize assetts and reducng the wagebill enormously. The football isn't as aesthetically pleasing to the eye as we'd all like, too much of the time. That said, the "hoofball" tag is a gross simplification used by simple people.

There's a thread on here about what's gone wrong at Sheffield United. For me, it's fans like you and Beighton - you make me cringe and I despair that you "support" our club.

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What are you going on about best results of any sufc manager????
Get a grip.

Did he get us successive promotion from bottom to the top flight NO!
Has he won us promotion NO!
Have we been to the semis of a cup NO!
Did we go out the cup in the first round this season YES

Who are you to sit in judgment over other fans and there opinion i am glad we have fans who stand up for what they believe if I agree or not.:thumbdown:

So any one who thinks we play long ball is simple?
Boy your not going to be popular at the lane are you?

 

[La_Blade]

To be fair I don't think alchoblade was calling people simple. He was refering to the our tactics being a bit more complex than the "hoofball" tag we seem to be adopting. And I've got to say I kind of agree with the points alchoblade is trying to make. Theres a fine line between genuine support and happy clapping before anyone starts. The same as there's a fine line between being pessimistic and a whinging t***er. Also can I point out that I'm not calling ANYBODY an whinging t***er or a happy clapper, just making a point.

 

[Ted Danson]

What are you going on about best results of any sufc manager????
Get a grip.

I think if you look at points per game ratio he is one of if not the best manager we've had.

Cant say for definate but Im sure some stato type can fill us in.

 

[Fiery Blade]

I think if you look at points per game ratio he is one of if not the best manager we've had.

Cant say for definate but Im sure some stato type can fill us in.

How simplistic can people get ? Being a good manager is not measured down to ratio of points per game but a combination of things:
Players at your disposal
Cash at your disposal
Man management of players
Training and Tactics
Success on the field
Countering an opponant
Public Relations
Support
Drive
Determination
Desire
Are just a few pointers to a good manager
The truth is Blackwell is an ordinary manager with a reasonable set of players - If he was a good manager then we would have acheived automatic promotion last season!
The truth is that Blackwell was out manouvred by Owen Coyle 3 times & Piggy laws twice need I say more!
Blackwell is a clown

 

[jose_d_blade]

And in his managing career he’s won what?
What is his best achievement?

He inherited a good team and defensively we were solid that’s where the points came from, but attacking I don’t think he has a clue.
Don’t believe me when cotts started playing we started winning who wouldn’t play him until end of season?
Who thought that playing Craig Beattie was a good idea?

he’s a great number 2 no doubt but needs some one attacking minded to help him out, id sooner just kick him out but that’s by the by.

The reason I am so concerned is up until now he’s had a very strong deep reserve of defenders to rely on, so his tight at the back knock it long worked.

If we start leaking at the back and we will if we don’t get some cover for cb we will be in big trouble.

Tell me any team in contention that only has two cb's and I’ll concede a loss.

And I’m sure you can only play 5 loan players the way were going half the first team will be on loan.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Well said Jose D
We ought to nickname Blackwell 'The Pawnbroker' or the 'Loan Shark'
Mind you how often does he loan players and never play them!
Dyer & Lupoli come to mind

 

[Fiery Blade]

Sheffield United FC otherwise known as the Loan Rangers

 

[Ted Danson]

I agree that we're sevearly weakend at the back now but feel we have much more attacking options available to us now. I think it would be much fairer to judge Blackwell on his attacking tactics nearer christmas after hes actually had a team rich in attacking options.

How long has KB been in management? 4 / 5 seasons? how many managers have won cups and promotions in their first 4 years of management?

How many of those managers have started with teams similar to the ones KB inherited?

not many thats for sure.

I cant beleive how impatient most Blades have become, they all seem to want it right now. One season in the Prem in recent years and they seem to think we've got a god given right to be top of the prem by now.

 

[jose_d_blade]

the way McCabe goes on about stadium development and buying clubs I thought we were

 

[Fiery Blade]

Obviously Ted Danson is a champion of mediocrity
What is wrong with aspiring to be in the best league, play against top players.
I answer to your questions many managers have won things in their first four or five years, don't forget he was no2 here for a while so his 'management experience is far longer than 4 to 5 years.
No we don't have a god given right to play in the Premier Division we just need a manager who knows what he's doing!

 

[Ted Danson]

Obviously Ted Danson is a champion of mediocrity

Im not a champion of mediocrity atall but Im realistic. We are in a much better position than we were when I was growing up and when we do make it into the prem I beleive that we're going to be better equiped to stay there now.

I just find it hard to understand everyone calling KB a failure and that he hasnt got a clue. Hes lost 18 games out of 78. That prooves to me that he has got a clue and a better then average clue at that.

Im not saying he is tactically the best manager going but we arnt in a position to get that kind of a manager. His tactics are effective and make us often win and winning games gets you promoted. We've had one of the hardest starts to the season out of any team and yet we're still unbeaten. To say the man is a clown and hasnt got a clue is just ridiculous

 

[SwissBlade]

And in his managing career he’s won what?
What is his best achievement?

He inherited a good team and defensively we were solid that’s where the points came from, but attacking I don’t think he has a clue.
Don’t believe me when cotts started playing we started winning who wouldn’t play him until end of season?
Who thought that playing Craig Beattie was a good idea?

he’s a great number 2 no doubt but needs some one attacking minded to help him out, id sooner just kick him out but that’s by the by.

The reason I am so concerned is up until now he’s had a very strong deep reserve of defenders to rely on, so his tight at the back knock it long worked.

If we start leaking at the back and we will if we don’t get some cover for cb we will be in big trouble.

Tell me any team in contention that only has two cb's and I’ll concede a loss.

And I’m sure you can only play 5 loan players the way were going half the first team will be on loan.

Jose,

I think everyone accepts that you just don't like Blackwell. Personnally I think that a lot of your comments are irrelevant and aren't based on facts but mere speculation. Most of your speculative comments are all negatives.

What does it matter that Blackie has never won anything? Why is it relevant to compare us with any team in contention having 2, 3, 4 Centre backs?

True enough he inherited a strong team, but that team was low on confidence and he needed to find his own team that suited his own style of play.

At the moment its far too early in the season to generate an opinion of how well we'll do come May, but we're unbeaten, within a couple of points of the top 2 and having played teams like WBA, Reading and Boro i'd say its not a bad start. Not sparkling but based on finishing last season in 3rd, just a couple of points off 2nd and automatic promotion we appear to be on the same track.

Blackie has also had to endure a late finish to last season, selling players and rebuilding the team.

He hasn't replaced Bromby and Ugo, this appears to be your biggest concern but I fully expect Blackie to go out and get the players to plug the gaps in the loan market.

Of course this needs the players to be available at other clubs and for the right deal for the club.

 

[alcoblade]

What are you going on about best results of any sufc manager????
Get a grip.

If you're going to spout, get your facts straight first eh?

The simple tag is for wherever the cap fits. Clearly your hat peg is full.

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[Ted Danson]

Obviously
I answer to your questions many managers have won things in their first four or five years,

Can you name a few please? and bare in mind I did say who had got teams in a similar position to the ones KB inherited.

 

[alcoblade]

He inherited a good team and defensively we were solid that’s where the points came from.

the stupidity of your posts is almost breathtaking, but this is a corker. We were heading for relegation when he took over. Whatever the qualities of the individiuals, the team was piss poor. Only a complete cretin wouldn't at least credit Blackwell for the turnaround. From there, we've had one season where we just missed out by the narrowest of margins. One and a half seasons during which he's been forced to restructure and reduce the wagebill massively - so hardly an easy position to manage through.

Most sensible Blades know our weaknesses, but acknowledge we have strengths. The same goes for Blackwell - he's made mistakes but also done some things very well. It's just stupid to argue otherwise.

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[shorehamview]

Blackwell showed exactly what it meant to be a Blade when he left us to go to Leeds for a lesser position.

He was assistant manager, and left to become a manager in his own right. Why is going from not in charge to in charge a lesser position? Fair enough, they were and still are in a lower division, and yes, it was with the dirties, but surely it's a step up to go from being the assistant to being the boss?

 

[mattco2001]

What a clown you are!!?? :thumbdown:

We are 2 signings away from being a top 4 team this year. A centre half for cover and another striker and we can challenge for automatic promotion.

(providing we do make a couple of loan signings) This team/squad is good enough to challeneg for automatic. My concern is that Newcastle and Boro will be too strong, but we will be up there.


Bunn

Walker Killa Morgs Naysmith

Monty

Cotts Harper Treacy

Hendo Evans

with other squad members:

- Taylor
- Bennet
- Williamson
- Reid
- Quinny
- Ward
- A N Other striker
- A N other centre back
- plus there are still outsie chances of Speed, Geary and Paddy all appearing at some point during the season.

absolutely spot on there mate! :thumbup:

 

[Sharpy]

Not a fan of Blackwell, his style of play or his bizzare problem with Cotteril which means our best winger is on the bench every game. I give him credit for getting us to 3rd last season but Im really getting fed up with the hoofball every single game.

We have the smallest squad in the league and let 4 go out and only brought 2 in. Is it only me who finds this a a bad error?

A few injuries and we are complete fooked.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Can you name a few please? and bare in mind I did say who had got teams in a similar position to the ones KB inherited.

Brian Clough- Derby Co
Brian Clough - Nottingham Forest
Paul Ince - MK Dons
Darren Ferguson- Peterborough
Ady Boothroyd- Watford
Roy Keane - Sunderland
David Moyes - Preston
Nigel Adkins - Scunthorpe
Ronnie Moore - Rotherham
Phil Parkinson - Colchester

 

[alcoblade]

Not a fan of Blackwell, his style of play or his bizzare problem with Cotteril which means our best winger is on the bench every game. I give him credit for getting us to 3rd last season but Im really getting fed up with the hoofball every single game.

We have the smallest squad in the league and let 4 go out and only brought 2 in. Is it only me who finds this a a bad error?

A few injuries and we are complete fooked.

but we haven't played hoofball in "every single game". We've played it, and maybe too often. The over reliance on Henderson is questionable. But we've also played good football at times, have released more deadwood and brought in a quality midfielder. Further, he's acknowledged we're short up front and just missed out on that.

His lack of use of Cotterill is diasppointing for me. I have other issues with Blackwell's style. I still have to acknowledge that overall the job he's done is a 7 or 8 out of 10.

The lack of depth in the squad is nothing to do with Blackwell. I doubt he's wanted to sell any of the players, but finances not Blackwell dictate that. He's been given a budget and I think we'd all agree that within that we'd prefer quality over quantity.

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[alcoblade]

Brian Clough- Derby Co
Brian Clough - Nottingham Forest
Paul Ince - MK Dons
Darren Ferguson- Peterborough
Ady Boothroyd- Watford
Roy Keane - Sunderland
David Moyes - Preston
Nigel Adkins - Scunthorpe
Ronnie Moore - Rotherham
Phil Parkinson - Colchester

Out of literally thousands of scenarios over the years (going back to clough, FFS) then clearly there'll be the odd manager who's done very well / had a lot of luck over a short spell. It doesn't alter the fact that it's not the norm and Blackwell's record with us, over a season and a half, is at very least half decent. Not acknowledging that is just ludicrous.

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[jose_d_blade]

the stupidity of your posts is almost breathtaking, but this is a corker. We were heading for relegation when he took over. Whatever the qualities of the individiuals, the team was piss poor. Only a complete cretin wouldn't at least credit Blackwell for the turnaround. From there, we've had one season where we just missed out by the narrowest of margins. One and a half seasons during which he's been forced to restructure and reduce the wagebill massively - so hardly an easy position to manage through.

Most sensible Blades know our weaknesses, but acknowledge we have strengths. The same goes for Blackwell - he's made mistakes but also done some things very well. It's just stupid to argue otherwise.

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Look me n you aren’t going to agree on any thing cock.

Don’t think any one could have done worse than Robson just needed a level head to wake them up and head them into the right direction and he did that well.

Maybe instead of going off on a tangent you should read my posts more carefully I’ve given credit to Blackwell where it’s due.

Look pal Blackwell is at best average.
if you want to sit in this league saying things like almost promoted, and almost signed insert name here ***** that’s fine.

If you adore Blackwell that much that’s fine.

If you think that the entire first team are piss poor and its Blackwell’s genius that wins every thing that’s fine.

If you think reducing the team to a skeleton crew leaving little to no cover in central defence and midfield is good for the team that’s fine.

If you think not selecting the best team due to domestic’s in the dressing room is ok that’s fine.

The likelihood of you being right and me being wrong extremely fine.

 

[Kentblade]

There's no pleasing some people.

Pleased here so far,but we need another striker and a back up centre back,unless Walker goes in there if required.
We look a reasonable bet for automatic promotion imp qualified as above.
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ps At last some of the dead wood has been cleared out.

 

[alcoblade]

Look me n you aren’t going to agree on any thing cock.

Don’t think any one could have done worse than Robson just needed a level head to wake them up and head them into the right direction and he did that well.

Maybe instead of going off on a tangent you should read my posts more carefully I’ve given credit to Blackwell where it’s due.

Look pal Blackwell is at best average.
if you want to sit in this league saying things like almost promoted, and almost signed insert name here ***** that’s fine.

If you adore Blackwell that much that’s fine.

If you think that the entire first team are piss poor and its Blackwell’s genius that wins every thing that’s fine.

If you think reducing the team to a skeleton crew leaving little to no cover in central defence and midfield is good for the team that’s fine.

If you think not selecting the best team due to domestic’s in the dressing room is ok that’s fine.

The likelihood of you being right and me being wrong extremely fine.

Nothing in my posts suggests I adore Blackwell. You've wasted 10 minutes on your life with that lot, and probably (judging by it) delayed someone's order.

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[Sharpy]

but we haven't played hoofball in "every single game". We've played it, and maybe too often. The over reliance on Henderson is questionable. But we've also played good football at times, have released more deadwood and brought in a quality midfielder. Further, he's acknowledged we're short up front and just missed out on that.

His lack of use of Cotterill is diasppointing for me. I have other issues with Blackwell's style. I still have to acknowledge that overall the job he's done is a 7 or 8 out of 10.

The lack of depth in the squad is nothing to do with Blackwell. I doubt he's wanted to sell any of the players, but finances not Blackwell dictate that. He's been given a budget and I think we'd all agree that within that we'd prefer quality over quantity.

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Id say apart from the preston play-off games we actually have. Id also say there is no doubt whatsoever that we rely solely on henderson for everything. Or at least in Blackies eyes we do. The long punt to Hendo is all we have and when that fails we have no plan B.

I dont understand why players at this football club seem to find it impossible to get the ball down and play football.

 

[bricktop]

Just out of interest i would like to pop a question at the Blackwell haters.

If you had a choice of

a, United end up lower mid-table this season and Blackwell getting sacked and then you are able to come on here and tell everyone how you was right all along

b, United end up going one better this season and getting up, and Blackwell getting a lot of praise and credit for taking us up, and you being wrong

Which one would you take?

 

[alcoblade]

Just out of interest i would like to pop a question at the Blackwell haters.

If you had a choice of

a, United end up lower mid-table this season and Blackwell getting sacked and then you are able to come on here and tell everyone how you was right all along

b, United end up going one better this season and getting up, and Blackwell getting a lot of praise and credit for taking us up, and you being wrong

Which one would you take?

the public answer is always b, the reality for some is a.

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[Fiery Blade]

However in reality if Blackwell is in charge we shall probably finish 3rd, 4th or 6th and lose out again at Wembley. Is that a measure of success and where would people stand then.
Why should we have to wait to fail instead of recognising that some of Blackwells management moves are at the least bizarre, he has weakened the squad in terms of depth, leaving them vulnerable to injury and suspension and again is relying on filling the team with loan players to compete again this season. The icing on the cake is Blackwells apparant lack of understanding of tactics and how to play the game. All these points considered the question is:
Will Blackwell lead us into the Premier League - My answer is No I don't think so !