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it' not about how they sound on the radio. After one and a half decades of lower division management, Brian Laws has had barely if any success.

For all the cirticism of Blackwell, his record for us (only 1 1/3 of a season) is very good. Bison Head may sound averagely reasonable on the radio but the same description fits his management record. That's far more worrying.

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alcoblade said:
it' not about how they sound on the radio. After one and a half decades of lower division management, Brian Laws has had barely if any success.

For all the cirticism of Blackwell, his record for us (only 1 1/3 of a season) is very good. Bison Head may sound averagely reasonable on the radio but the same description fits his management record. That's far more worrying.

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I agree. If a manager is the most boring person in the world and a brilliant manager, fair enough, but do you think Blackwells good?

By the sounds of it a lot of United fans don't.
 
Blackwell's not a good manager, neither is Laws. From a charismatic point of view O'Driscoll is boring but he can get his side to play good football. Also agree Blackwell should not try to play the comedian on Radio Sheffield he does an excellent job for comedy putting a side out at BDTBL and trying to justify it!
 
dj_uk_1234 said:
I agree. If a manager is the most boring person in the world and a brilliant manager, fair enough, but do you think Blackwells good?

By the sounds of it a lot of United fans don't.
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yes, I do. I think we're getting the usual over reaction to a poor cup display.

We finsished 3rd last season after he previously saved us from (IMHO) relegation in only a short period of time. We lacked width and strike power and he's addressed that. He's brought in a decent midfielder who's injured right now. He's reduced the wage bill enormously. His win % is the best of any united manager in history, albeit over a short period.

Our problem is that the football is too often effective yet not too pleasing to the eye. At times (play off semis) it's excellent. Our biggest risk is the fans demanding a quick shift to free flowing football whilst also demanding a promotion challenge, under the significant financial constraints every recently relegated club suffers.

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dj_uk_1234 said:
I agree. If a manager is the most boring person in the world and a brilliant manager, fair enough, but do you think Blackwells good?

By the sounds of it a lot of United fans don't.
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Blackwell's results have been good enough, and he's seeing us through the post-parachute transition - an ugly task. The style of football has often been grim, but it's defensively as good as I've seen from us.

Besides, most fans I know would moan if we got Jose Mourinho in.
 
Repeat - Last year United had the highest wage bill - high wages to best players - finished third - bottled play off final - Down to manager - Simple
 
Fiery Blade said:
Repeat - Last year United had the highest wage bill - high wages to best players - finished third - bottled play off final - Down to manager - Simple
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not really fair IMHO. Our wagebill was massively inflated by Robson signings who barely contributed to the effort. And managing downwards is always difficult, from whatever level.

Also, one of the auto places went to Birmingham, who's wagebill was larger than ours.

UTB
 
Fiery Blade said:
Repeat - Last year United had the highest wage bill - high wages to best players - finished third - bottled play off final - Down to manager - Simple
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The money=results formula is simple - far too simple. Fancy a bet on Newcastle winning the league?

;)
 
Newcastle are a case in point - how many managers did they have last year No manager through the summer and they will do nothing despite highly paid players - its down to the manager Brian Clough managed so called 'ordinary players' to title and European Cups Blackwell could hardly manage to get olut of the car park at the lane!
 
QUINN WAS LIKE HE ALWAYS IS SHITE!!!!!
sorry but he is.
and that little did not look that good, a miles too slow and he did not realy did owt on the ball.
there only one o8 to a gd player on the pitch and that was reid.
 
I don’t get Blackwell at all after listening to his interview sound like he's blaming the whole loss on Billy Sharp ??:confused:

He could have scored a hat trick if the keeper hadn’t pulled of two super saves.
Looked hungry for the ball unlike Howard and Quinn, linked well with read and little did miles more than Henderson.
He hasn’t played in a competitive match since that last cup match we had last season where he played well.

Ok he’s not great , and there are a lot think this league is too hard for him but who the hell else would want to play for some one who uses you as a scapegoat to cover there own failures.

Get you head out of the clouds and bite the bullet Blackwell.

Blackwell picked the team
Blackwell signed 7 out of the 11 fielded
What if Billy dose go who's he going to blame then ?
Very very poor management of the situation.

Blame a player who was one of the better players on the day just because you don’t like him.
Or is it blame a player I didn’t sign so I can excuse my self from any blame.
 
Totally Agree
Out of his depth
Tries to cover up his own shortcomings by blasting the team
His reaction after the Port Vale match was like a nine year old kid who had been told he could not go out to play!
Move over Blackwell - you can't cut it!
 

I wonder how a man out of his depth has managed to move us from close the bottom of the division when Robson was in charge to being minutes away from the play-offs and then finishing third last season and still being in with a chance of automatic promotion on the last day. I agree that he has chosen players who we wouldn't said things we would say and done things we wouldn't do but I think some of you can't appreciate that he is probably the best person we could get at the time. Maybe we could have some sensible suggestions of who could replace him if he did move over?
 
The reason he has moved us up from the depths that he had quality players bought by Robson (Naysmith, Beattie, Speed,etc)but who Robson could not motivate!
On McCabes own admission they had the highest wage bill in the division and now are probably 3rd highest wage bill you don't pay top dollar for rubbish!
Blackwell is very limited at what he does and what he can't do is take them the extra mile - the step further to success.
What he should be doing is defending his players and shouldering some of the blame - bollockings should be handed out in the dressing room, not over the airwaves!.
As for a replacement, perhaps a management team of Gary Speed and experienced mentor - it must be better than Blackwell and Ellis
PS By the way what does Ellis do - Gary Speed appears far more high profile on match days!
 
I will give Blackwell another season to see if he can take the extra step. It is interesting that you would happily go for a very experienced and talented ex player ahead of any current managers as a replacement though.
I agree that he shouldn't chastise players on the radio - although he did show that he was upset by the performance and the players who didn't do the business, but there are other ways to do that.
I don't know what Ellis does on match days but I am sure he has a role the rest of the time, otherwise Pullis wouldn't have wanted him to go there.
Can't chat any more - just setting off to the game - will wave when I get there. UTB
 
DuncDisorderly said:
Great performance, good result...but, is it just 'papering over the cracks', he mused mischieviously...

:rolleyes:
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What cracks? After two league games we have four points. A draw against a team that last season was in the Premier League, and a win against a side that was up there when we were. The only down side was our second string were rubbish in the Mickey Mouse Cup, and that's hardly the end of the world.
 
my thoughts on Blackwell have never changed............ he's the cheap as chips option and aint good enuff.

Time will tell and i hope i'm wrong.
 
shorehamview said:
What cracks? After two league games we have four points. A draw against a team that last season was in the Premier League, and a win against a side that was up there when we were. The only down side was our second string were rubbish in the Mickey Mouse Cup, and that's hardly the end of the world.
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Sorry SV. I am being ironic. 'Papering over the cracks' was a phrase fondly used by all the negative posters when we'd beaten anyone soundly.

Bit like my dear old Dad, a lifelong Owl, when we came in from BDTBL after thumping Ipswich 7-0, way back when... My Mother said, '7-0, eh?'. 'Aye', he said, 'Six lucky goals and a penalty...'
 
It was a very, very average performance against a very poor side.
A good team would have scored five.
Yesterday showed we have a good defence but problems everywhere else.
Midfield was dire, Treacy looks average at best and Evans struggled for most of the game.
Best player was Walker who if he continues improving is going to make £3m look a very poor deal.
Has he even got a yard quicker over the summer?
 
JohnDenver said:
Is that you len? Or has your stalker followed you over?
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I preferred the stalker, tbh. Lenny, without wanting to do a deadbat on you, you stick out like a sore thumb laddie, 2/10. It's a feeble, tired effort.

Maybe you're ust a bit burnt out? Might be time to move you out on loan to a lower Division Club I think to let you get your enthusiasm back for being negative. Notts County might be a good one to try. You can tell them all how crap Sven is...
 
It's me JD.
We have the makings of a decent side but only with investment in the midfield.
Treacy and Reid aren't promotion players and we need genuine quality in the centre.
If we're serious, we'll be looking to bring that quality in before the end of the month.
Otherwise it's going to be the same old, same old - scrabbling for points based on being organised at the back and having the speed with Killa and Kyle to get us out of trouble.
 
DuncDisorderly said:
I preferred the stalker, tbh. Lenny, without wanting to do a deadbat on you, you stick out like a sore thumb laddie, 2/10. It's a feeble, tired effort.

Maybe you're ust a bit burnt out? Might be time to move you out on loan to a lower Division Club I think to let you get your enthusiasm back for being negative. Notts County might be a good one to try. You can tell them all how crap Sven is...
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Simply telling it like it is Dunc, which is maybe why you have feeble in your mind though I didn't think we were that bad.
Watford were a desperately poor side but were only a bit better, particularly going forward.
 

lenners said:
It's me JD.
We have the makings of a decent side but only with investment in the midfield.
Treacy and Reid aren't promotion players and we need genuine quality in the centre.
If we're serious, we'll be looking to bring that quality in before the end of the month.
Otherwise it's going to be the same old, same old - scrabbling for points based on being organised at the back and having the speed with Killa and Kyle to get us out of trouble.
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We do indeed have the makings of a decent side - as far as I can see we just need a composed passer in the middle, Evans to get 20, and to keep the back four together. Bingo.

I'm not sure what constitutes a promotion player - to me it's the blend that matters. We have young quick players who will look very good at times and very poor at others. So long as we have options that's OK. I'm happy that we can bring the experience of Little on when the pace isn't working.

The playoffs look within reach to me.
 
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