Are We in a Genuine Relegation Battle?

[ekke287]

Out of the bottom 7, we have Wendy, Norwich and Pompey to play twice and we play Oxford, Blackburn and Swansea at the Lane in the New Year.

I don’t know which of those we’d beat though, which is a problem.

We’re at a point where we need 9pts from QPR, Wendy and Portsmouth, and we already missed that target.

Any hope of survival rests on us winning games consistently, say 2 wins from every 3.

The evidence atm suggests we can barely win one.

Southampton, Ipswich and Coventry were the only games played where we should be struggling as a stable Championship side, but we’ve lost those AND games to teams around us, who’ve been nothing special let’s be honest.

We’re a bad team with a poor manager and knee jerk owners atm. That never ends well.

The idea of waiting til January, like CW is hinting at, is ludicrous. We could, and probably will be, well adrift by then.

 

[Barry Butlin]

2 wins from 3 would put us on 72 points and a play off place

 

[Barry Butlin]

No Wilder did not get a call out of the blue he and knill knew in early April whatever league we would be in they were out

Not true

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

2 wins from 3 would put us on 72 points and a play off place

Long shot but we can do it.
I'm going to say Wednesday and Portsmouth.

 

[ChipDayFriday]

We’re a bad team with a poor manager and knee jerk owners atm. That never ends well.

Correction: We’re a team lacking many things required for the Championship with an untouchable manager and noob owners atm. That never ends well.

 

[ATL Recs]

Not true

It is 100%

 

[ekke287]

Long shot but we can do it.
I'm going to say Wednesday and Portsmouth.

Our current average is 0.66pts per game to date. We have 31 games left.

Current rate equals 20.4pts from the remaining games.

Being fair and rounding up gives us 21pts, plus current 10pts equals us finishing the season with 31pts.

We’re at a point where even draws aren’t helping. We need 6pts from the next two or we’re out of it essentially.

Teams don’t lose over two thirds of their games and stay safe.

 

[raul]

It is 100%

No idea either way, but he went from bouncing on tables to toys out around then...

 

[Barry Butlin]

It is 100%

No it’s not

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Our current average is 0.66pts per game to date. We have 31 games left.

Current rate equals 20.4pts from the remaining games.

Being fair and rounding up gives us 21pts, plus current 10pts equals us finishing the season with 31pts.

We’re at a point where even draws aren’t helping. We need 6pts from the next two or we’re out of it essentially.

Teams don’t lose over two thirds of their games and stay safe.

Woosh

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

My statement, that I would let anybody on the forum stick it up my arse if we went down, is looking slightly foolish at present.

Best get on Amazon and order some vaseline.

The vaseline is being returned!

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Promotion is in our sights. Bedwetters GET OUT NOW.

 

[ATL Recs]

If we play with an extra man every game play offs are on - up to the handball we were absolute dogshit

 

[joe casey]

If we play with an extra man every game play offs are on - up to the handball we were absolute dogshit

Yet without the handball we'd still have been winning 1-0.....

 

[Blade58]

Whilst the last two wins have been very welcome, both sides looked below average to me

We’ve won 4 games this season all of them currently in the bottom 7

I think we are a long way off being a top 6 side atm.

I’m hoping Jan changes will make us competitive against the challenging sides as well as the bottom sides

 

[radio]

Despite 2 clean sheets , two 3-0 wins , and 6 points , we still go into this weekend game in a relegation position ,, so while things are looking better we are still in a relegation battle until we aren't

 

[ATL Recs]

Yet without the handball we'd still have been winning 1-0.....

It was 0-0 prior to the handball and sending off

 

[LBA_Blade]

There were and are still so many things to work on but on the plus side the defence is starting to look more composed. We still are in a relegation battle by the very nature of where we are sat in the table but you only need 3 teams worse than us in the league to be safe and on that basis I think we will be ok

 

[Guesty]

It was 0-0 prior to the handball and sending off

I think the point is it was a certain 1-0 until the defender handled it.

 

[JohnDenver]

There were and are still so many things to work on but on the plus side the defence is starting to look more composed.

They are indeed but I’m nervous about the plaudits the defence has had in the last couple. In games where the opposition barely offered a thing…

That’s not to criticise, but just reserve a bit of judgement.

 

[Blacksea]

Despite 2 clean sheets , two 3-0 wins , and 6 points , we still go into this weekend game in a relegation position ,, so while things are looking better we are still in a relegation battle until we aren't

I think any team looking to be safe from relegation this season is going to need 53/54 points,unless 2 more drop off a cliff in the next few months.
We are still a good way behind the curve due to past results again teams we should have been picking up points from,but didn't.
Once down there it can take a long time to drag out of the danger zone unless an exceptional run is produced, usually,a good few threatened teams pull out above normal results in the last 10/12 games of the season and it becomes a real dog fight.

 

[mattbianco1]

Exactly.

We have had a terrible start and sacked the manager responsible for 5 defeats from 5. The confidence in the players is visibly low, but hopefully we can pick that up over the next 3 games taking us into the International break.

To use your Middlesbrough analogy, Ipswich are still the bookies favourite for the title, despite being 10pts behind Middlesbrough.

The six favourites for the title are as follows:

1. Ipswich - 17th (10 points behind 1st)
2. Boro - 1st
3. Coventry - 6th (16 points behind 1st)
4. Birmingham - 8th (16 points behind 1st)
5. Southampton - 19th (10 points behind 1st)
6. West Brom - 7th (10 points behind 1st)

So of the 6 favourites, only 2 are currently in the top 6.

Compared with relegation favourites...

1. Wednesday (2nd bottom)
2. Oxford (5th bottom)
3. Derby (3rd bottom)
4. Portsmouth (12th place)
5. Watford (4th bottom)
6. QPR (9th place)

Only 2 of the 6 favourites to go down are OUTSIDE the bottom 6. United are in a totally false position.

Wow. When I wrote this, Coventry were 6th and 6pts off 1st.

They're now 1st and 13pts above 6th

That's a big swing in 11 games

 

[ATL Recs]

I think the point is it was a certain 1-0 until the defender handled it.

No it’s not certain until it’s behind the line
So it was still 0-0

 

[Guesty]

No it’s not certain until it’s behind the line
So it was still 0-0

But without the hand ball it would have been 1-0, which was the original point, not that it was 1-0.

 

[Silkblade]

No

 

[MKY]

After early & justified pessimism I now think we’ll survive, but without troubling the playoffs. After 2 good wins against weaker sides todays game against Leicester will be a better barometer of how we’re recovering.

 

[GymClassHero]

After early & justified pessimism I now think we’ll survive, but without troubling the playoffs. After 2 good wins against weaker sides todays game against Leicester will be a better barometer of how we’re recovering.

A good win today, and I am starting to believe

Still very early days

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

Half the league are in a relegation battle, they just don't know it

 

[Houston_Blade]

Really important 3 points today in the context of the results from Oxford and Norwich. Well hopefully start to pull away but if we’d not won we’d have been back in the mire a bit.

 

[1066blade]

We were last week. Now we're not. Funny old game innit.