Apparently he's walked....

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Any rumour that also involves an external replacement, seems like a load of rubbish to me. I sincerely hope he hasn't left, but the fact no one has quashed it yer really worries me. If he has gone I'd imagine Heckingbottom would be in charge short term and would potentially oversee the cup match.
 
At least we know Alan Biggs has had a bit of a merry Christmas he’s still got some of the sauce left over
 
Hope he's bringing Kanu and Linvoy Primus with him 🤩
 
Starting to get more hopeful it's not true. Surely we'll know tomorrow if it is
 

He won't walk will he. How many people would walk away from a huge contract? He will leave on a compromise if anything.
 
Just piecing the various cryptic messages together, I could quite easily imagine a disagreement between CW and the Board regarding the DoF role and the sanctioning of signings/loans in the JTW,

Given the club's current league position, CW would hold far less sway on both points, with the Board less likely to concede than on previous occasions.

Personally, even though CW wouldn't like it, I could see where a DoF could add value - it would be very difficult to argue that m/any of CW's signings since the club was promoted have worked and delivered value. The club's expanding scouting network and HRH's expanding network in the game simply aren't being utilised. Whilst subjective, surely better value for money options were available than players such as Ramdale and Brewster, both of whom, through no fault of their own, look miles away from being of the required standard, even though significant outlays were required to sign them.

I appreciate the club works to one of the lowest overall budgets in the league but at the moment, they simply don't look like winning a game, never mind avoiding relegation.

As such, I understand the dilemma for the Board wrt approving signings in the JTW. With relegation looking inevitable, would spending £2-3m apiece on loans be a wise use of resources, when they could instead be utilised in summer to help build a side capable of bouncing back at the first attempt?

While he may have felt it necessary at the time, CW's previous threats to walk unless he got his way never sat well with me and if that's what's currently occurring again, I could easily imagine the Board standing firm this time with CW either needing to fall in line or carry out his threat. If the latter, it would be a shame and add risk to the club's long term chances of being an established Prem club, but no one person is bigger then the club, not even CW.
 
Mouth of the South said:
Just piecing the various cryptic messages together, I could quite easily imagine a disagreement between CW and the Board regarding the DoF role and the sanctioning of signings/loans in the JTW,

Given the club's current league position, CW would hold far less sway on both points, with the Board less likely to concede than on previous occasions.

Personally, even though CW wouldn't like it, I could see where a DoF could add value - it would be very difficult to argue that m/any of CW's signings since the club was promoted have worked and delivered value. The club's expanding scouting network and HRH's expanding network in the game simply aren't being utilised. Whilst subjective, surely better value for money options were available than players such as Ramdale and Brewster, both of whom, through no fault of their own, look miles away from being of the required standard, even though significant outlays were required to sign them.

I appreciate the club works to one of the lowest overall budgets in the league but at the moment, they simply don't look like winning a game, never mind avoiding relegation.

As such, I understand the dilemma for the Board wrt approving signings in the JTW. With relegation looking inevitable, would spending £2-3m apiece on loans be a wise use of resources, when they could instead be utilised in summer to help build a side capable of bouncing back at the first attempt?

While he may have felt it necessary at the time, CW's previous threats to walk unless he got his way never sat well with me and if that's what's currently occurring again, I could easily imagine the Board standing firm this time with CW either needing to fall in line or carry out his threat. If the latter, it would be a shame and add risk to the club's long term chances of being an established Prem club, but no one person is bigger then the club, not even CW.
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I can see why he is against a DoF but recent transfer windows are showing that one would probably help Wilder. Which to be fair to Phipps is what he is essentially saying.

In the football league a DoF isn't a must have but in the PL it seems to be.
 
Mouth of the South said:
Just piecing the various cryptic messages together, I could quite easily imagine a disagreement between CW and the Board regarding the DoF role and the sanctioning of signings/loans in the JTW,

Given the club's current league position, CW would hold far less sway on both points, with the Board less likely to concede than on previous occasions.

Personally, even though CW wouldn't like it, I could see where a DoF could add value - it would be very difficult to argue that m/any of CW's signings since the club was promoted have worked and delivered value. The club's expanding scouting network and HRH's expanding network in the game simply aren't being utilised. Whilst subjective, surely better value for money options were available than players such as Ramdale and Brewster, both of whom, through no fault of their own, look miles away from being of the required standard, even though significant outlays were required to sign them.

I appreciate the club works to one of the lowest overall budgets in the league but at the moment, they simply don't look like winning a game, never mind avoiding relegation.

As such, I understand the dilemma for the Board wrt approving signings in the JTW. With relegation looking inevitable, would spending £2-3m apiece on loans be a wise use of resources, when they could instead be utilised in summer to help build a side capable of bouncing back at the first attempt?

While he may have felt it necessary at the time, CW's previous threats to walk unless he got his way never sat well with me and if that's what's currently occurring again, I could easily imagine the Board standing firm this time with CW either needing to fall in line or carry out his threat. If the latter, it would be a shame and add risk to the club's long term chances of being an established Prem club, but no one person is bigger then the club, not even CW.
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Think that's a fair suggestion that there may well have been a disagreement over the way forward and it's up in the air.

I can see Wilder not being happy with the DoF suggestion if true, but whilst I'm desperate for him to stay, there's no denying our recruitment since last January has come at a very hefty price by our standards and been an abject failure.
 
Davalon said:
Think that's a fair suggestion that there may well have been a disagreement over the way forward and it's up in the air.

I can see Wilder not being happy with the DoF suggestion if true, but whilst I'm desperate for him to stay, there's no denying our recruitment since last January has come at a very hefty price by our standards and been an abject failure.
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CW should welcome bringing a DOF in, it would take a lot of the work load from him. Work alongside the new guy so he knows exactly what type of player you’re looking for, what system he has to fit into. Then if the player is a failure, he doesn’t shoulder any of the blame for it.
 
If DoF is the Prince's model and he's held off in he past for fear of undermining Chris, you can see how the landscape might have changed.

Before it was a question of "my methods are working, don't change them".

You'd have to say that Chris' position of strength is weakened this season by the points tally. You can still look to his overall progress with a sense of pride but sat with 2 points doesn't really give much chance to shout the odds. Chris is his own man but I'd hope all parties would have a degree of maturity about them.

Whoever is associated with the club isn't going to want to bring in players the Manager cannot or will not use.
 
Someone mentioned coaching and our lack of coaches. There was also a comment by someone else about not developing players well.

I think both of these need to be addressed. We seem to coach within a system and to play that system. Whilst Wilder has been brilliant at helping players play to their potential, I'm not so sure he has been in terms of developing individual talent. More specialised coaches would help with this.
 
Mouth of the South said:
Just piecing the various cryptic messages together, I could quite easily imagine a disagreement between CW and the Board regarding the DoF role and the sanctioning of signings/loans in the JTW,

Given the club's current league position, CW would hold far less sway on both points, with the Board less likely to concede than on previous occasions.

Personally, even though CW wouldn't like it, I could see where a DoF could add value - it would be very difficult to argue that m/any of CW's signings since the club was promoted have worked and delivered value. The club's expanding scouting network and HRH's expanding network in the game simply aren't being utilised. Whilst subjective, surely better value for money options were available than players such as Ramdale and Brewster, both of whom, through no fault of their own, look miles away from being of the required standard, even though significant outlays were required to sign them.

I appreciate the club works to one of the lowest overall budgets in the league but at the moment, they simply don't look like winning a game, never mind avoiding relegation.

As such, I understand the dilemma for the Board wrt approving signings in the JTW. With relegation looking inevitable, would spending £2-3m apiece on loans be a wise use of resources, when they could instead be utilised in summer to help build a side capable of bouncing back at the first attempt?

While he may have felt it necessary at the time, CW's previous threats to walk unless he got his way never sat well with me and if that's what's currently occurring again, I could easily imagine the Board standing firm this time with CW either needing to fall in line or carry out his threat. If the latter, it would be a shame and add risk to the club's long term chances of being an established Prem club, but no one person is bigger then the club, not even CW.
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If we go down without a whimper, they will be so used to losing, it doesn't matter who's in charge these players wil have a relegation that last next season an beyond.
 

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