Anyone still deluded over Berge?

[petcharlie]

Looks like our Rolls Royce isn't at home in the Paris Dakar rally and everyone else has turned up with a Land Rover or Toyota Hilux

I like it you have summed him up mate. no bottle no fight soft as s--t.

TC, Worthington, Hudson, Bowler etc could walk into any top PL side, only difference between then and De Bruyne and today's current superstars, is TC and the gang weren't performing on a manicured desso pitch and weren't wearing custom hand made boots, made from computer 3d scans of their feet.

The other thing is they all liked a pint ha ha. If they were playing today i admit they would be fitter but the skill they had was natural .most players today do not have that natural skill .

 

[Hagansbootlaces]

I like it you have summed him up mate. no bottle no fight soft as s--t.

The other thing is they all liked a pint ha ha. If they were playing today i admit they would be fitter but the skill they had was natural .most players today do not have that natural skill .

Couldn't agree more, an aside from liking a drink there were a few other issues going on off the pitch,, think it was Gerry Francis told the story of having dinner at Stan Bowles House, midway through, some heavies turned up, took the dining table and other bits, in payment for his cash 'loans'

 

[alcoblade]

That was my point too

I said all teams have their 60's and 70's legends
But their legends of today are much better, indicating that players attitudes, fitness, science, training methods have produced much better modern players than their old style counterparts.

Our legends of 50 years ago are still better than anything that we've seen since

Yes, but you’re also suggesting it’s because good football can’t flourish at the Lane, because of archaic fans. To a man, everyone I know rates Wilder’s spell (bar the last season) as the best they’ve witnessed in their lifetime.

We played a style of football that was complemented (literally) the world over.

 

[RossingtonBlade]

You can dress it up however you want with him, you can with many other players really but, the harsh reality is, he cannot be arsed. The whole time he has been here I’ve probably seen 3/4 games he’s been a 7/10 performance. That bluntly, is not good enough for a bloke that has cost in excess of £20m. He doesn’t have the required mental & physical toughness for this league. The bloke is 6ft 6 and is getting shoved off the ball by lads that are 5ft 5 week in week out, I’m struggling to work out if it’s a lack of effort or a lack of strength. I do feel for him in some case that he can’t be played beside Fleck & Norwood. That is an absolute suicide midfield with no bite, creativity, intensity. A fuckin shambles. Every team runs through is like a hot knife through butter, lost amount of times they’ve been caught out since 19/20 season the three midfielders/Baldock have been booked due to shirking a tackle and chasing the man who’s just beat them with ease. This is an even more physical league too ffs. It leaves our defence as wide as a prozzys that it’s so easy to attack the space in behind a defence now with even less confidence in their abilities due to having Lurpak hands in net.

 

[AWetFlannel]

You can dress it up however you want with him, you can with many other players really but, the harsh reality is, he cannot be arsed. The whole time he has been here I’ve probably seen 3/4 games he’s been a 7/10 performance. That bluntly, is not good enough for a bloke that has cost in excess of £20m. He doesn’t have the required mental & physical toughness for this league. The bloke is 6ft 6 and is getting shoved off the ball by lads that are 5ft 5 week in week out, I’m struggling to work out if it’s a lack of effort or a lack of strength. I do feel for him in some case that he can’t be played beside Fleck & Norwood. That is an absolute suicide midfield with no bite, creativity, intensity. A fuckin shambles. Every team runs through is like a hot knife through butter, lost amount of times they’ve been caught out since 19/20 season the three midfielders/Baldock have been booked due to shirking a tackle and chasing the man who’s just beat them with ease. This is an even more physical league too ffs. It leaves our defence as wide as a prozzys that it’s so easy to attack the space in behind a defence now with even less confidence in their abilities due to having Lurpak hands in net.

Shoved off the ball?????

 

[RossingtonBlade]

Yes he’s been shoved off the ball 2 times every game this season for starters.

 

[sitwell]

Shifting Berge from the halfway line to the edge of the opposition penalty area is like trying to negotiate the QE2 through the locks of Bingley Five Rise.

Barry would sort it

 

[sitwell]

This 25-30 million pound stuff ,has anyone apart from us actually put up any money or is it his agent playing a blinder ?
For what its worth a Blades legend ,said to me at a do last season 'Berge - fucking carthorse' and I had already formed that opinion. I really wanted him to be the business ,a friend of mine came up with the chant and I thought his reputation would cement us in the prem. From the 20 minutes at Palace when I first saw him lose a challenge with a relative dwarf until now I think we have been sold a dud. If he was Frank Jones from Beighton magpies he would be laughed at.

 

[Freddie]

He is our best player.

Against Doncaster U-18s agreed.

 

[Rodley]

Will move to a top club in the next 12 months. What a player.

 

[Balham]

Will move to a top club in the next 12 months. What a player.

Some of us said that from the start

 

[The Fox]

I'm pleased its worked out for him .
Fulham is a good fit , always came across as a decent lad who made football look easy.
Not sure for all his talent he'll end up at a big club with high expectations but who knows .

 

[Blacksea]

Looking at Man City today,he could get a move there, they've become a team of formulaic ball shuttlers,everybody sticking to their assigned niche,in fact they looked like Fulham scrapping for a point.

 

[1973Blade]

Was such a positive signing in 2020, a real feeling that we would establish ourselves in the Premier League

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Quality player.

 

[JJ Sefton]

A good player when things were going well, but not one capable of turning it round when they weren’t.

 

[loyalblade95]

Berge thrives in better teams, like McAtee when you compare both of them this season from last season.

Same could be said about Souza this season.

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

A lovely proper footballer who many decided to boo on his return to Bramall lane.Shameless wankers. You never know what you have until it’s gone.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Yes but he was never a United type player.
He had too much natural ability and skill and didn't do enough running around.

We are a local team for local people.

 

[Salmon Pastures]

Some of us said that from the start

Some of us did. pompey and djken didn’t see it that way. Run harder, tackle harder, defend harder. No idea about class.

 

[Nick Jansky]

A good player when things were going well, but not one capable of turning it round when they weren’t.

Played a major part in turning it round v Liverpool today. Probably helps that at Fulham he doesn’t have to do it single handedly.

 

[mattbianco1]

Some of us said that from the start

They paved paradise to put up a parking lot

 

[Houston_Blade]

A good player when things were going well, but not one capable of turning it round when they weren’t.

He isn’t and never has been the kind of player to turn a game on its head on his own. For £22m that’s what we expect as fans and a club. He wasn’t a forward thinking midfielder but we had to play him there because he would have been a waste of money as a defensive midfielder. For Fulham he can just be another decent player in a decent team and stick to what he’s good at.

 

[William Large]

Yes but he was never a United type player.
He had too much natural ability and skill and didn't do enough running around.

We are a local team for local people.

I’m a huge Berge fan, at times he looked like a man playing amongst boys for us. The issue for me was that he didn’t do it often enough.

With his ability he should have bossed more games in the championship.

If you watched him regularly, he had a tendency to disappear at times. Nothing to do with not running around enough.

I

 

[MagnifiqueShorehamStreet]

He isn’t and never has been the kind of player to turn a game on its head on his own. For £22m that’s what we expect as fans and a club. He wasn’t a forward thinking midfielder but we had to play him there because he would have been a waste of money as a defensive midfielder. For Fulham he can just be another decent player in a decent team and stick to what he’s good at.

So we expect the kind of player to turn a game on its head on his own for £22 mill do we? I probably agree.Unless of course, your name happens to be Rhian Brewster, who at 23 mill,is idolised by a lot of the fanbase.Being generous, he’s turned one game on it’s head, in 4plus years, and done virtually nothing for the rest of it.
Never really understood all the heat and downright hatred Berge got from the fanbase, compared to the love and absolution Brewster has enjoyed for the past 4 years.At times,United fans are an odd,and unfathomable lot!

 

[Tezza1889]

So we expect the kind of player to turn a game on its head on his own for £22 mill do we? I probably agree.Unless of course, your name happens to be Rhian Brewster, who at 23 mill,is idolised by a lot of the fanbase.Being generous, he’s turned one game on it’s head, in 4plus years, and done virtually nothing for the rest of it.
Never really understood all the heat and downright hatred Berge got from the fanbase, compared to the love and absolution Brewster has enjoyed for the past 4 years.At times,United fans are an odd,and unfathomable lot!

When him and illiman were sold, it was game over, he was always described as Rolls Royce of a player..

If anything, after the injury it was the other way around, with berge proving his worth while Rhian was "still on the sickbed"

 

[Houston_Blade]

So we expect the kind of player to turn a game on its head on his own for £22 mill do we? I probably agree.Unless of course, your name happens to be Rhian Brewster, who at 23 mill,is idolised by a lot of the fanbase.Being generous, he’s turned one game on it’s head, in 4plus years, and done virtually nothing for the rest of it.
Never really understood all the heat and downright hatred Berge got from the fanbase, compared to the love and absolution Brewster has enjoyed for the past 4 years.At times,United fans are an odd,and unfathomable lot!

Half of the problem with Brewster is that he’s not lived up to expectations, no one would be arsed about his time with us so far being a bit of a damp squib if he’d cost £5m from Swansea. It’s the £22m from Liverpool that created expectations and singles him out as a poor signing (pig goal apart, but then Akinbiyi scored against them lot and was still a bit shit overall).

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Half of the problem with Brewster is that he’s not lived up to expectations, no one would be arsed about his time with us so far being a bit of a damp squib if he’d cost £5m from Swansea. It’s the £22m from Liverpool that created expectations and singles him out as a poor signing (pig goal apart, but then Akinbiyi scored against them lot and was still a bit shit overall).

If he'd cost £5m from Swansea he wouldn't still be here.

He would have been moved on years ago.

 

[JHaber]

I was (am) a big, big fan of Berge. He was an unstoppable beast when he decided to be. Though....... watching MOTD2, Liverpool's first goal was the thing that drove me mad about him. Got brushed off by a guy half his weight. Very casual at times especially when sensing a dangerous situation.

 

[djbaldken]

Some of us did. pompey and djken didn’t see it that way. Run harder, tackle harder, defend harder. No idea about class.

I beg to differ.
Always said Berge was class!