Another one 'we' dont understand

[metalblade]

Time we rejected him as not good enough ............................... like the mighty Swidon Town did nearly 2 seasons back. The thought of J Mc and Hammond etc in the team for next season don't make you want to rush out to buy a Season Ticket does it

 

[Revolution]

3rd spot will be Flynn . If these guys are willing to take drastic pay cuts to stop at the lane , then sign all 3 IMO.

McEveley and Flynn would be plying there trade lower down if not . I know using that logic shows the standard of player we would be keeping , but it's a squad game , and Adkins needs players who will be committed and can be trusted.

Also footy is a confidence , mental attidue sport and all 3 can be a asset as part of a squad .

Adkins doesn't do himself any favours in his press interviews written or verbal , as there is no Adkins love in at BDTBL with supporters . However the latest article on McEveley which has got some people's backs up , has a sprinkle of press mischief.

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Flynn as well?

Wow.

He can be trusted to be injured and to hide in away games and against good teams, I suppose.

Hope you like League One. We aren't leaving it with those signings.

 

[Darthblade]

He's been one of our better, more consistent players for the majority of the season.

I think he's poor at left back, and had a poor start to the season but has picked it up and been consistently good since.

I would be more inclined to say, he's been one of our bang average, more average players for the latter part of the season ........ I think he's a car crash at left back and at CH in a 4-4-2, had a shocking start to the season but has picked it up and been consistently average since January, when there was no offer of contract on the table and the realisation of being released in June dawned upon him.

UTB & FTP

 

[alcoblade]

According to today's Star Adkins says we 'grossly underestimate McEverly's contribution'....' he's on the training pitch every day'.. oh and he's got a left foot which helps !

Seems to be a pattern developing here, I'm beginning to think we should attend training sessions not games ? Doesn't bode very well for contract negotiations and player recruitment this summer does it?

I understand what is contributes on the pitch, which is quite a lot.

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[alcoblade]

According to today's Star Adkins says we 'grossly underestimate McEverly's contribution'....' he's on the training pitch every day'.. oh and he's got a left foot which helps !

Seems to be a pattern developing here, I'm beginning to think we should attend training sessions not games ? Doesn't bode very well for contract negotiations and player recruitment this summer does it?

I understand what he contributes on the pitch, which is quite a lot.

UTB

 

[BushBlade]

It's like Leicester hasn't happened. Can anyone say they thought Wes Morgan would win a PL title? I've seen him play many times and he always looked like nothing more than a good championship centre half.
Individuals are important but so is hard work and team play. Get eleven players working for each other you're halfway there, add a bit of quality and you become a good side.
Like Bassett did. Or Warnock.

 

[Revolution]

It's like Leicester hasn't happened. Can anyone say they thought Wes Morgan would win a PL title? I've seen him play many times and he always looked like nothing more than a good championship centre half.
Individuals are important but so is hard work and team play. Get eleven players working for each other you're halfway there, add a bit of quality and you become a good side.
Like Bassett did. Or Warnock.

Let me get this straight - we can afford to sign McEveley again, or should sign him, because Leicester have Wes Morgan in the team?

Will we be signing Vardy and Mahrez as well?

If this isn't the World's worst analogy, it's close.

I cannot believe that so many people, having watched this season unfold, want to bring back the players who have put us where we are. It's mind boggling.

 

[metalblade]

Let me get this straight - we can afford to sign McEveley again, or should sign him, because Leicester have Wes Morgan in the team?

Will we be signing Vardy and Mahrez as well?

If this isn't the World's worst analogy, it's close.

I cannot believe that so many people, having watched this season unfold, want to bring back the players who have put us where we are. It's mind boggling.

Just goes to show how apathy and the losing mentality is now firmly entrenched in the club and it's supporters

 

[BushBlade]

Let me get this straight - we can afford to sign McEveley again, or should sign him, because Leicester have Wes Morgan in the team?

Will we be signing Vardy and Mahrez as well?

If this isn't the World's worst analogy, it's close.

I cannot believe that so many people, having watched this season unfold, want to bring back the players who have put us where we are. It's mind boggling.

No, we've got our 'Vardy' in Billy but I do agree we need a 'Mahrez' and a 'Cante'.

All I'm saying is we don't need 11 world beaters to win this league, a few decent players backed by some hard workers will do it.

Personally, I couldn't give a shit whether we retain him or not (providing we don't give him a big contract) but I think we both accept it's unlikely that we're going to break the bank again this summer and there's a limit to the number of players we can bring in whilst retaining some kind of continuity and being able to find the requisite quality. How we do that is a matter of opinion but as I've spent most of the season saying we need to stick with Adkins then I'm willing to trust him to get it right so if he retains McEv, or any player, it's his decision and his head on the block if he fails.

I'll try to make my analogies better in the future.

 

[BushBlade]

Just goes to show how apathy and the losing mentality is now firmly entrenched in the club and it's supporters

Bollocks, I want to win games and get promoted as much as anyone. I just don't think my opinion is ultimately as important as the manager's and therefore I'm not prepared to criticise every decision he makes that I disagree with. Question it, perhaps, debate it with people, yes. Use it as a reason to call him a cunt or dig out supporters who have a difference of opinion, not my style.

 

[Barney]

Ah, but then he's also said how supporters don't know how much Hammond offers to the team. Evidence to advise you to take what ever the amount of spin to come out of his mouth with a huge pinch of salt.

 

[Lane Ender]

Let me get this straight - we can afford to sign McEveley again, or should sign him, because Leicester have Wes Morgan in the team?

Will we be signing Vardy and Mahrez as well?

If this isn't the World's worst analogy, it's close.

I cannot believe that so many people, having watched this season unfold, want to bring back the players who have put us where we are. It's mind boggling.

Abselutly people have short memories Mceverly and Flynn need moving on they're yesterdays news mediocre even for this division.
Theres better out there

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Hes been our best defender this season ,not saying much I know but its there. However its en vogue to say hes crap and blame everything on him ,because he handled a ball at White Hart Lane and Adkins made him his captain.

There's a LOT more to it than those two incidents and I think you know it. That said, I agree with those who say he's been decent to good since December. My concern is that he will revert to type next season if we keep him on.

 

[PeteBlade]

Sharp's fine.

Outside of him I'm not too sure how many of the others you'd be justifiably able to make that point about. Which of course is the issue.

I'd sooner JMac was released but it's clear Adkins is managing expectations.

But if the league table is the only way to judge him as you said above, then he has to be shit.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Ah, but then he's also said how supporters don't know how much Hammond offers to the team. Evidence to advise you to take what ever the amount of spin to come out of his mouth with a huge pinch of salt.

We don't. Adkins has said that a big part of what he likes about him is his attitude, how he conducts himself, how he brings along the young players etc. We as supporters don't see that so in that sense, he's correct.

 

[PeteBlade]

We don't. Adkins has said that a big part of what he likes about him is his attitude, how he conducts himself, how he brings along the young players etc. We as supporters don't see that so in that sense, he's correct.

Even trickier to hear it on the radio you would imagine...

 

[BushBlade]

We don't. Adkins has said that a big part of what he likes about him is his attitude, how he conducts himself, how he brings along the young players etc. We as supporters don't see that so in that sense, he's correct.

He is and I can understand him wanting to back his players publicly but he's treading a thin line when he makes comments about supporters 'not understanding'. It's getting close to the patronising shit you hear from the likes of Van Gaal and Martinez. He needs to reign it in a bit. By all means be complimentary about your players but don't make comments that can be interpreted as being in any way critical of our support. It will not end well.

 

[FriethBlade]

We need to be rebuilding with younger players and all the signs are that he's gonna repeat the mistakes that brought Woolford,Hammond, Sammon et al here in the first place.

There are loads of left backs in the bottom 2 divisions better than McEverley, maybe we can't afford them, I don't know. But we could have had Morsey on lower wages than Hammond but he went for the one 10 years older and I get the feeling he's gonna make the same mistakes this summer.

Obviously we need a nucleus of more experienced players but they ought to be ones with something to offer like Brayford, Baptiste, Sharp not ones that are over the hill.

But then again I accept I don't understand and I don't see all the hidden extras 30+ year old players bring !

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

Jay Mac's been excellent the second half of the season. And, given the shit that's (rightly) been flung his way in the past that's all the more admirable & indicative of a decent, resilient character.

He's been so good recently that his wobbly first thirty minutes on Saturday came as a big surprise. But, again, he worked his way through a bad spell & had a storming second half. Good character.

Got no qualms about him getting a new contract, personally. He's just the sort of experienced player we need around the place.

 

[PeteBlade]

We need to be rebuilding with younger players and all the signs are that he's gonna repeat the mistakes that brought Woolford,Hammond, Sammon et al here in the first place.

There are loads of left backs in the bottom 2 divisions better than McEverley, maybe we can't afford them, I don't know. But we could have had Morsey on lower wages than Hammond but he went for the one 10 years older and I get the feeling he's gonna make the same mistakes this summer.

Obviously we need a nucleus of more experienced players but they ought to be ones with something to offer like Brayford, Baptiste, Sharp not ones that are over the hill.

But then again I accept I don't understand and I don't see all the hidden extras 30+ year old players bring !

All the signs? Which ones?
Didn't we stop pursuing Morsey because of the money involved?
Brayford has been awful all season, worse than Jay Mac.

 

[PokerBlade]

Evidence to advise you to take what ever the amount of spin to come out of his mouth with a huge pinch of salt.

Is this English?

 

[Lane Ender]

Jay Mac's been excellent the second half of the season. And, given the shit that's (rightly) been flung his way in the past that's all the more admirable & indicative of a decent, resilient character.

He's been so good recently that his wobbly first thirty minutes on Saturday came as a big surprise. But, again, he worked his way through a bad spell & had a storming second half. Good character.

Got no qualms about him getting a new contract, personally. He's just the sort of experienced player we need around the place.

For hes a jolly good fellow
For hes a jolly good fellow
For hes a jolly good fellowwwwwww.
So lets give him a three year contract.
FFS

 

[1danewhitehouse]

He is and I can understand him wanting to back his players publicly but he's treading a thin line when he makes comments about supporters 'not understanding'. It's getting close to the patronising shit you hear from the likes of Van Gaal and Martinez. He needs to reign it in a bit. By all means be complimentary about your players but don't make comments that can be interpreted as being in any way critical of our support. It will not end well.

I don't disagree entirely. It's a fine balance but as has been pointed out earlier in the thread, his actual comments weren't really inflammatory or patronising really. The journo has been a bit naughty. Adkins has just defended a fairly unpopular player and is in all likelihood trying to prepare us for the reality of a contract extension.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

All the signs? Which ones?
Didn't we stop pursuing Morsey because of the money involved?
Brayford has been awful all season, worse than Jay Mac.

Think that's a bit harsh on Brayford. Thought he did well and brought out the best in Coutts over the xmas period. Then around the time of Old Trafford and Peterborough at home, mistakes started creeping in and he was at least partially responsible for a few goals we conceded. He's not been great since but still offered some drive and determination down that right side.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

All the signs? Which ones?
Didn't we stop pursuing Morsey because of the money involved?
Brayford has been awful all season, worse than Jay Mac.

I was having a quick look earlier at the S24SU ratings for the season. I can only see the top 5, but surprised to see Brayford comes in at number 4 as I don't think he's even been as good as McEveley, let alone one of our better performers.

Long 6.81
K Wallace 6.65
Sharp 6.64
Brayford 6.45
Edgar 6.40

J Mac is down at 6.12...

 

[Rudders]

If you want to get promoted from this division you need to be good at set pieces, attacking and defending.
A decent centre back within a promotion winning side will score 5-10 goals from headers and tap ins at set pieces.
McEv will get you 1-2 per season.
We can't afford players like him in the side even though he hasn't let us down of late.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

For hes a jolly good fellow
For hes a jolly good fellow
For hes a jolly good fellowwwwwww.
So lets give him a three year contract.
FFS

Not at all. Just acknowledging the character he's shown to come through adversity & the fact that his consistently good form's been apparent over a period of a few months (& therefore can't be explained away by him "looking for a new contract"). He's led by example over the second half of the season.

A one year contract, maybe two, ought to be his reward IMO.

 

[Lane Ender]

A one year contract, maybe two, ought to be his reward IMO

Hes got to go.
Out with the old and in with the new.
Sorry fella i aint backtracking

 

[Revolution]

Not at all. Just acknowledging the character he's shown to come through adversity & the fact that his consistently good form's been apparent over a period of a few months (& therefore can't be explained away by him "looking for a new contract"). He's led by example over the second half of the season.

A one year contract, maybe two, ought to be his reward IMO.

Two years for a player who had almost a calendar years worth of mediocre to poor performances in 2015.

How many years do you think Hammond should get? 3? 4?

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Seeing as mceverly has just shoved Adkins cock straight in his mouth you'd expect him to return the favour, apparently it's all coming together now there's fuck all to play for...thanks lads...

I know we have all had a go at the McEveley this season , in frustration so the bloke becomes a scapegoat. We have all acted as The Witch Hunter General . It's time that we stopped giving our own players a fucking , and vent our anger , frustation on the opposition . BDTBL can become a volatile stadium to play in , let's make it like that for the opposition players , and not our own .

Easy to do , just got to believe and back Adkins judgement . Some of the players being retained may have played by twats , but let's shit on other teams players not anybody in a red and white shirt.

FFS lets get real.

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