Adkins out

[Bladeloyal]

life long home and away blade ,always try to see the positives , anybody that knows me will tell you I will always back the mighty blades and won't let anybody disrespect my club . But I'll tell you now we've been sold a pup by our pathetic board of directors ,if ever there was a rabbit caught in the headlights its Nigel Adkins and his two coaches . A swift cull is needed and Chris wilder needs to be brought in sharpish .with Deano his assistant . And a bloke in dooleys mould brought in at board level . Utb
We have to get the old blade spirit back or we are looking down the barrel of a gun

 

[DronnieBlade]

Have sex and travel.

UTB

 

[zablade]

I agree Adkins is not up to it , but without changing the ownership it will just be rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

We are certs for League 2 within two or three seasons at the moment.

 

[sitwell]

life long home and away blade ,always try to see the positives , anybody that knows me will tell you I will always back the mighty blades and won't let anybody disrespect my club . But I'll tell you now we've been sold a pup by our pathetic board of directors ,if ever there was a rabbit caught in the headlights its Nigel Adkins and his two coaches . A swift cull is needed and Chris wilder needs to be brought in sharpish .with Deano his assistant . And a bloke in dooleys mould brought in at board level . Utb
We have to get the old blade spirit back or we are looking down the barrel of a gun

Warnock as director of football ,with Wilder or Derry as team manager ,said it for a while. Wilders season is over ,they are up ,we should be talking to him now ,because if we don't they will be above us this time next season.

 

[YES Blade]

Chris Wilder? Really? Based on what exactly? He's an ex player and is currently doing well?

What happens if he doesn't achieve instant promotion? Get rid of him as well?

The problems at United are far bigger than just the manager, anyone can see that.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Warnock as director of football ,with Wilder or Derry as team manager ,said it for a while. Wilders season is over ,they are up ,we should be talking to him now ,because if we don't they will be above us this time next season.

What is it in Wilder or Derry that you think would be successful ? Do you also honestly think that Warnock would be able to remain in an advisory role and not want to make ALL the decisions ?

 

[blade too long]

Simple truth is , its whats needed, he isnt working, Blame the board the players the new pitch the fans , but it was Adkins job to improve things on the pitch
We are going backwards, cant score, There is no discernible plan of tactics , no bringing in of better players, , but worst of all , no passion
Can put up with players being shite , but passionless , that falls at the managers feet , full stop

We need someone better , we could all argue who , but this one is not the one

 

[Bladeloyal]

If I hear stick it in at one end keep it out at the other ,players been able to play in the arena (what's that about ) good set of lads ,want to play a high tempo game . I think I'll self combust !

 

[YES Blade]

Warnock as director of football ,with Wilder or Derry as team manager ,said it for a while. Wilders season is over ,they are up ,we should be talking to him now ,because if we don't they will be above us this time next season.

Derry? As in Shaun Derry? Are you serious? You would sack a manager with 4 promotions on his CV, pay him a load of compensation, then pay Cambridge compensation for Shaun Derry?

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Simple truth is , its whats needed, he isnt working, Blame the board the players the new pitch the fans , but it was Adkins job to improve things on the pitch
We are going backwards, cant score, There is no discernible plan of tactics , no bringing in of better players, , but worst of all , no passion
Can put up with players being shite , but passionless , that falls at the managers feet , full stop

We need someone better , we could all argue who , but this one is not the one

Someone needs to re-build a squad, we may as well let Adkins at least try and do that given he has actually done it successfully before. We can't keep giving managers 12 - 18 months at best, particularly when they haven't had chance to build anything. I agree the performances on the pitch hardly merit such faith at the moment but he's been there and done it before.

It's also better spending £3-4M on players than a similar amount on another compensation job.

 

[Caseh]

No manager for the past few years have worked, 2 constants in that time. 1: Mostly the same playing staff, 2: All the same board.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That is exactly what we would be doing if we sacked Adkins. The club is a shambles, may as well give him his contract to see if he can turn the absolute shipwreck around.

And no, this is not me defending him, we have in no way been good enough this season.

 

[SouthportBlade]

I am not completely defending Adkins by any means, as he hasn't covered himself in glory. However...

The fundamental issue is we have a bloated squad of over-paid wasters, which Adkins is having to work with. This has meant we have had to sell our best player, and restricted recruitment to either not at all (see JTW) or in-adequate cheap replacements (see Woolford etc).

Many of these players are out of contract in the Summer. Many of these players nearly every person on here has said isn't good enough and should be released ('Which 5 would you keep?'). Many of these players we havent been able to offload as they are overpaid and useless. Many of these players are probably fully aware they aren't going to get a new contract. Many of these players therefore aren't good enough and have no motivation, but are happy to run their large contracts down. These are not players we need at our club

Adkins has a squad of players for the most part have limited ability and a distinct lack of motivation. Throw in a few bad apples (Collins, Baxter, Coutts etc), this then limits any chance of team cohesion. Realistically the squad needs a complete overhaul and Adkins needs until January next year before we can judge him? Surely?

UTB FTP

 

[Bladeloyal]

First and second rule of football management shape and structure ,3rd players must see some sort of pecking order . We have none of those .

 

[Bayingblade]

I am not completely defending Adkins by any means, as he hasn't covered himself in glory. However...

The fundamental issue is we have a bloated squad of over-paid wasters, which Adkins is having to work with. This has meant we have had to sell our best player, and restricted recruitment to either not at all (see JTW) or in-adequate cheap replacements (see Woolford etc).

UTB FTP

Inadequate yes, Jonny. But in the case of Sammon, Edgar, Hammond and Sharp, I don't think they are particularly cheap. Given the wages Mr Adkins has had to play with on the players he has brought in, I would have expected to see more of them given that they were his choices. Unfortunately, what we have seen of them suggests that some of them are not very good value.

 

[Rollerball]

Before you all pull the trigger on Adkins think on this, maybe he has tried to improve things on the field chopping and changing team and tactics, he's brought through and continued the learning of the youngsters but to me, it's the older pros that have let sown SUFC, not Adkins once the players cross the white lines its up to them to play to their ability which lets be brutal here shouldn't be too difficult.
But they aren't, Adkins has tried and failed to get the best out of several previous managers left overs, so now with so many due to end their contracts in June, give Adkins what no previous manager for a decade or more has had, time to sort out the train wreck that is my beloved blades, we have nothing to lose, we are a laughing stock not only in sheffield but amongst most of the Yorkshire clubs, relegation, to 4th tier? Been there done that, if that's what it takes to build a squad of players that want to play for my team then bring it the fook on, let Adkins try and build his own team.
Last thought a lot saying his signings have failed, but could it also be they don't fit in with the rest of the squad that were already there, maybe they are being ignored etc like the boss that brought them in? Just a thought.
Save billy, the beard, long, Adams and the youngsters, let the others go back to playing park footy on a Sunday where they belong.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

I think it's far too late for Adkins now. Fans are now starting to resent Adkins the man as well as Adkins the manager. No coming back from that is there?

 

[Smirth]

I'm feeling on the brink with Adkins now. He's been given a relatively easy ride up to know with plenty of excuses being made for him as a result of Clough's tenure and the players left behind.

Despite that, he should be doing a hell of a lot better than 12th position with this crop of players at this stage of the season. He's looking like a total fraud at the moment. Constantly changing formations and player's positions during the match. Making mind boggling substitutions. Talking bullshit in practically every interview, where he repeats the same tired shit again and again and doesn't actually do anything to address the issues he is bemoaning.

He needs to make serious changes now. Give Diego a chance. I'm not saying he's the answer but he's in good form for the Under 21's and scoring goals so give him a chance in the first team. If not then what is the fucking point of the Under 21's if not to impress and get a chance in the first team.

Stop playing players out of position. Done isn't a wing back, nor is Woolford. Done used to play full back and left midfield for Barnsley and he was largely shit at it. We signed him as a striker, play him there or not at all.

Stop moving everyone round during the game like some sort of tactical genius. It just serves to confuse the players and make them unsure of where they should be. We all recall Brayford turning to the bench and shrugging his shoulders a few weeks back when we were getting ripped apart down the right hand side with no protection. Done was moved all over the pitch last night, despite him being a striker he played in so many different positions, all of which not his best or natural position. Brayford playing left back. It's insanity.

I don't trust the man to lead us back to the Championship. His recruitment is fucking dreadful. The youngest players he has signed are 28, both on loan. He's only signed players from the league above. Not a single one from League's 1 or 2. These are the same mistakes we have made time and time again and is largely why we are still in League 1. Adkins is doing it all over again. I'm starting to think that give him this summer and we will be even further behind.

 

[sitwell]

Derry and Wilder have been given far more difficult jobs than the one handed to Adkins and they have done well ,look at Notts Co after Derry left ,he took them to where we are with far more limitations ,far more. Wilder has been successful in every job he has been given , again with very difficult jobs ,they are both young ,both know the division ,both have good contacts ,both would be hungry for success both play good football and with a DOF mentoring and bridging the gap to the board (doesn't have to be Warnock but he would be ideal) I think it would be fresh and successful. You have to remember where we are ,we are a middle 3rd division club and have been for a while ,look at the young hungry managers in the league who are doing well up at Barnsley and elsewhere. Last night showed me that Adkins has no idea how to pull us through ,I think this is the lowest point in the past 35 years and we are deteriorating badly.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

I am not completely defending Adkins by any means, as he hasn't covered himself in glory. However...

The fundamental issue is we have a bloated squad of over-paid wasters, which Adkins is having to work with. This has meant we have had to sell our best player, and restricted recruitment to either not at all (see JTW) or in-adequate cheap replacements (see Woolford etc).

Many of these players are out of contract in the Summer. Many of these players nearly every person on here has said isn't good enough and should be released ('Which 5 would you keep?'). Many of these players we havent been able to offload as they are overpaid and useless. Many of these players are probably fully aware they aren't going to get a new contract. Many of these players therefore aren't good enough and have no motivation, but are happy to run their large contracts down. These are not players we need at our club

Adkins has a squad of players for the most part have limited ability and a distinct lack of motivation. Throw in a few bad apples (Collins, Baxter, Coutts etc), this then limits any chance of team cohesion. Realistically the squad needs a complete overhaul and Adkins needs until January next year before we can judge him? Surely?

UTB FTP

Agree completely.

He inherited a large squad and probably knew from minute one that he wouldn't be able to make mass changes. He attempted therefore to make key signings through the spine of the team, Edgar (decent pedigree on paper), Hammond (ditto but took a while to get 'over the line') and Billy. He also lost our most creative player one game in.

As I mentioned on another thread, I'm struggling to think of a manager who has made only 6 signings in a season, only 2 of which are permanent. That's not through choice so it's clear he's on a clearing out mission this season.

That's not to say he's exempt from any criticism, hasn't made mistakes and is undoubtedly losing supporters game by game at the moment but he can't be fully judged until he's built his team to play the way he wants to play, a way which has been successful in the past. To me, he should be given that chance rather than expensively clearing out the full back room team and starting all over again.

 

[grafikhaus]

Leaving aside 'Who should the next manager be?', 'It's all McCabes fault', 'we can't go on sacking managers' blah, blah after last night, Adkins must go.

For those who didn't go, you missed a quite remarkable game. I have never, ever seen a more shambolic performance from a bunch of so-called 'professional footballers'. Devoid of effort, skill and played out in near-silence from the (highly dubious) attendance of almost 18k. Think 'going to the cinema' and being presented with a blank screen for over 90 minutes.

To illustrate the incredibly-poor nature of Division 3, Burton - the top team - were crap and won't survive in the Championship without a hefty load of dosh (which they don't have). But at half-time and with the score unbelievably still 0-0, they did exactly the same as Wigan t'other day. While Adkins delayed returning his bunch of useless cunts onto the pitch, Burton were out and raring to go. Our sustitutes, as usual, had spent the half-time interval pissing about and looked like kids in a school playground. What are all these so-called 'backroom staff' meant to be doing?

Clough (like Wigan) told his lads to 'up their game by 10%' and the points would be theirs.

It's not worth giving individual scores for the players. Long didn't have much to do but looked at fault with the goal. The rest? Apart from (maybe) Sharp and Adams, I'd ship the fucking lot out. After just 30 minutes I'd have Baptiste going back from whence he came. Done stood out with his 'headless chicken' routine. The rest simply didn't give a fuck.

As I've said elsewhere, a few points less and we'd be in a relegation scrap from which we wouldn't survive. To have the first half-hearted 'attack' of the half 5 minutes from the end, just a goal down and at home shows a team who have simply given up. We don't run, anticipate, shoot, use dead balls. There's nothing there.

When people go on about Clough, Wilson, Blackwell and Adkins they're just comparing levels of shittiness. Not that Adkins can compare with any of those. He is Weir, Robson and Adams rolled into one - shite and utterly clueless.

I'll be interested if anybody tries to defend Adkins. After last night, all excuses have run out.

 

[Bladeloyal]

The football is the most shite boring turd I've watched in 47 years , nobody other than William Henry Folkes can dress it up as anything else .adkins and his two clowns out

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Derry and Wilder have been given far more difficult jobs than the one handed to Adkins and they have done well ,look at Notts Co after Derry left ,he took them to where we are with far more limitations ,far more. Wilder has been successful in every job he has been given , again with very difficult jobs ,they are both young ,both know the division ,both have good contacts ,both would be hungry for success both play good football and with a DOF mentoring and bridging the gap to the board (doesn't have to be Warnock but he would be ideal) I think it would be fresh and successful. You have to remember where we are ,we are a middle 3rd division club and have been for a while ,look at the young hungry managers in the league who are doing well up at Barnsley and elsewhere. Last night showed me that Adkins has no idea how to pull us through ,I think this is the lowest point in the past 35 years and we are deteriorating badly.

You could argue that taking us us is a far more difficult job than reviving Northampton and Cambridge !

I'm sorry but Wilder has been in management for 15 years and this is the highest he's ever been, top of Division 3 (has a track record similar to Clough at this point). Derry saved Notts County but was then sacked 9 months later after about 3 wins in 5 months if memory serves. There's nothing to suggest either can cope with the pressures of managing us at this point, nor have the experience to know what it takes to get out of this division.

 

[Smirth]

I am not completely defending Adkins by any means, as he hasn't covered himself in glory. However...

The fundamental issue is we have a bloated squad of over-paid wasters, which Adkins is having to work with. This has meant we have had to sell our best player, and restricted recruitment to either not at all (see JTW) or in-adequate cheap replacements (see Woolford etc).

Many of these players are out of contract in the Summer. Many of these players nearly every person on here has said isn't good enough and should be released ('Which 5 would you keep?'). Many of these players we havent been able to offload as they are overpaid and useless. Many of these players are probably fully aware they aren't going to get a new contract. Many of these players therefore aren't good enough and have no motivation, but are happy to run their large contracts down. These are not players we need at our club

Adkins has a squad of players for the most part have limited ability and a distinct lack of motivation. Throw in a few bad apples (Collins, Baxter, Coutts etc), this then limits any chance of team cohesion. Realistically the squad needs a complete overhaul and Adkins needs until January next year before we can judge him? Surely?

UTB FTP

The problem is that a lot of the under performers are still under contract next season.

Brayford, Basham, Scougall, Coutts, Woolford, Done, Freeman & Wallace (still unclear on whether he got a 2 or 3 year deal) are still here next season. We will still have the same problems that they are all under performing and Adkins cannot find the solution.

 

[sitwell]

You could argue that taking us us is a far more difficult job than reviving Northampton and Cambridge !

I'm sorry but Wilder has been in management for 15 years and this is the highest he's ever been, top of Division 3 (has a track record similar to Clough at this point). Derry saved Notts County but was then sacked 9 months later after about 3 wins in 5 months if memory serves. There's nothing to suggest either can cope with the pressures of managing us at this point, nor have the experience to know what it takes to get out of this division.

Adkins managed at the top level ,as did Robson ,Weir played for his country and in Europe give me hunger and ambition over past glories anyday.

 

[sheffielder]

If I hear stick it in at one end keep it out at the other ,players been able to play in the arena (what's that about ) good set of lads ,want to play a high tempo game . I think I'll self combust !

Imagine what the players must think!

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Warnock as director of football ,with Wilder or Derry as team manager ,said it for a while. Wilders season is over ,they are up ,we should be talking to him now ,because if we don't they will be above us this time next season.

Sitters , don't want to piss on anybodies parade , and last night was a continuation of new lows .

To me Wilder , Derry , Would not be a improvement and has league 2 written all over them.

Getting home last night I was still pro Adkins , with 100% blame on the players . On reflection this would have never happened under Warnock IMO . He is the man to get us out of the shit , but doing his fire fighting job at Rotherham, so he is out of the frame.

Do we need a short term fix or a long term solution . Whichever way if it was my club , my money , I would be more worried giving the money to Adkins to spend it ,than the missus.

UTB

 

[sitwell]

The problem is that a lot of the under performers are still under contract next season.

Brayford, Basham, Scougall, Coutts, Woolford, Done, Freeman & Wallace (still unclear on whether he got a 2 or 3 year deal) are still here next season. We will still have the same problems that they are all under performing and Adkins cannot find the solution.

Add Sharp to that list ,a good manager could use those players as a base for a good side ,Adkins has shown poor management using those players and his additions are woeful as are his tactics and organisation.

 

[Smirth]

You could argue that taking us us is a far more difficult job than reviving Northampton and Cambridge !

I'm sorry but Wilder has been in management for 15 years and this is the highest he's ever been, top of Division 3 (has a track record similar to Clough at this point). Derry saved Notts County but was then sacked 9 months later after about 3 wins in 5 months if memory serves. There's nothing to suggest either can cope with the pressures of managing us at this point, nor have the experience to know what it takes to get out of this division.

That's just the problem with our managerial choices over the years IMO. We always pick managers based on past glories. Those who have been sacked by their previous club or clubs and are moving back down the pyramid. They are inevitable tainted by failure.

We need to appoint somebody on the way up for once. Of the mangers currently around there are 2 we should be looking at if we are to make a change - Chris Wilder or Justin Edinburgh.

 

[sitwell]

Sitters , don't want to piss on anybodies parade , and last night was a continuation of new lows .

To me Wilder , Derry , Would not be a improvement and has league 2 written all over them.

Getting home last night I was still pro Adkins , with 100% blame on the players . On reflection this would have never happened under Warnock IMO . He is the man to get us out of the shit , but doing his fire fighting job at Rotherham, so he is out of the frame.

Do we need a short term fix or a long term solution . Whichever way if it was my club , my money , I would be more worried giving the money to Adkins to spend it ,than the missus.

UTB

Warnock is there until May ,he publicly says he is looking for an upstairs job in football. He would be a perfect fit at UTD. I actually think it will happen eventually.

 

[Rodley]

Warnock is there until May ,he publicly says he is looking for an upstairs job in football. He would be a perfect fit at UTD. I actually think it will happen eventually.

Warnock as chairman. Would be the best appointment of the last 10 years.

 

[Bladeloyal]

Hungry new manager set of young athletic players cherry picked. From clubs in and around us a couple of good older heads ,no stupid wages payed ,good bonus structure so there is a insentive to succeed . Reorganise the admin side of the club far two many chiefs ,running a 10m pound turnover business .sack the safety officer if he's the clown who says we need the amount of stewards we have and the cost that go with that .3 stewards on car park gate at 10 am yesterday why! We must have money to burn .