Adkins Interview Ahead of Wigan (H) - and after the JNTW

[madeinsheffield]

Providing the hard work chasing down, effort, enthusiasm and tackles go in the crowd are behind the players, as a basic that's all that's expected. That gets the crowd behind them.

They do that, we get behind them, then the style and fancy stuff comes after when they get the confidence.

Neshing out of tackles, not chasing down lost causes and we see that as a lack of effort and some get on their backs, I don't agree with booing but if you've paid your money it's your prerogative.

 

[pommpey]

Providing the hard work chasing down, effort, enthusiasm and tackles go in the crowd are behind the players, as a basic that's all that's expected. That gets the crowd behind them.

They do that, we get behind them, then the style and fancy stuff comes after when they get the confidence.

Neshing out of tackles, not chasing down lost causes and we see that as a lack of effort and some get on their backs, I don't agree with booing but if you've paid your money it's your prerogative.

Agree - but is it possible, given the patent lack of ability shown? You can't get players to play better, if they are the very limit of their ability. It's like asking you to take a Maths GCSE when you have shown over ten exams, all you can achieve is a C. You are 'at your level' and no amount of training, coaching or mentoring will improve you, if anything it will be regressive. You could have a hundred people stood in the exam hall cheering you on, but you'll still fuck up fractions, still make a dog's-cock of simultaneous equations and still not understand enough of matrices to get the grade you want. United are in that bracket. We have pair of keepers, neither you have any huge faith in shot stopping and commanding the area, a multitude of combinations of defenders across all four positions in the back line whom opposition attackers find easy to get past or lose, a midfield which cannot control and craft opportunities and a front line currently spearheaded by a journeyman centre forward who lacks pace and misses penalties.

We are simply not good enough across the team to believe we can be promoted.

pommpey

 

[madeinsheffield]

I agree we are sadly lacking in just about every department and as discussed everywhere should have strengthened in at least 3 positions.

But if NA wants the crowd behind them the effort etc needs to be there regardless of ability, the same players have upped their game in various cup matches and when they were playing for a place at Old Trafford. Therefore they can do it again. Some of them might even get another contract out of it, I hope to god they don't but that should be the carrot dangled in front of them, most won't get as much every month next season, that is for sure.

 

[derryblade]

Listened yesterday, spent a good wedge of the interview singing the praises of the current squad, grit, resilience, stamina, endeavour, commitment were mentioned to many times to count. We have only lost two games in months, not sure if he was trying to convince us or himself of the attributes of the players. Fair play to him trying to pump the players up but as he said the buck stops with him and we do need to win more games. JTW was a mixed bag of information, three bids made none accepted, tells us nothing, add it to his comments earlier in the month of making 6 figure bids for players, targeted player moving to Premiership it's just blarney IMO. We might get one of the three on loan? makes little sense, he implies any of the three would go directly into the starting eleven which to me means they are playing regular games to be match fit, not like Hammond who took weeks to get up to speed. The pumping up of the current squad to the degree he did leans to the opinion we are going with what we have, supported by NA saying there was no more plans to move anymore out on loan. We will see in the fullness of time.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Then here's an idea perhaps they shouldn't 'start slow' ?

Further idea - if we do start slow, get behind the team and create a positive atmosphere.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Never met a Blade who wants us to lose.

A shitty myth.

Unfortunately its not. During all the bad periods under past management you always hear/read of fans coming out with "it wouldnt actually bother me losing if it gets rid of *insert managers name here".

 

[PeteBlade]

Unfortunately its not. During all the bad periods under past management you always hear/read of fans coming out with "it wouldnt actually bother me losing if it gets rid of *insert managers name here".

If ever that's happened, it's always been the tiniest of tiny minorities.

And usually someone like Barney.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

If ever that's happened, it's always been the tiniest of tiny minorities.

And usually someone like Barney.

'Someone like Barney'

What a film that'd be....

 

[derryblade]

Why would anybody pay good money to attend a game hoping the team you support loses, it's a nonsense. It has certainly been posted by so called fans on forums, but why that should impact on a players performance I haven't a clue. It's the chicken and the egg scenario do the fans get the players going or do the players performances get the crowd going. The important thing is the team start on the front foot to get the crowd onside from minute one.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Why would anybody pay good money to attend a game hoping the team you support loses, it's a nonsense. It has certainly been posted by so called fans on forums, but why that should impact on a players performance I haven't a clue. .

But if that's their opinion on a forum, makes you think what attitude they're taking to the game.

 

[PeteBlade]

But if that's their opinion on a forum, makes you think what attitude they're taking to the game.

I think you tend to find that a lot of these types of people don't attend matches anyway.

 

[derryblade]

But if that's their opinion on a forum, makes you think what attitude they're taking to the game.

Probably spending this long in the 3rd tier of football has made more fans less positive but that's understandable. Supporters going and booing from minute one hoping your team loses IMO is a very small minority. There has always been supporters throughout my period watching the Blades, who react by booing at bad results and performances, we are not unique in that most clubs have them. Football is a passionate game and people react in different ways that's life.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Its never a negative atmosphere at the start of a game, its how the players play that upset fans.

This is simply not true.

At Wigan at 2-0 down we (ie the *players*) were getting back into the game and looked most likely to score.

Wigan go up the other end and make it 3-0 - cue chants of, "We're fucking shit." We weren't.

And the workshy, wage-stealing, passionless players came back from three down to 3-3 and could even have won.

 

[Smirth]

It's difficult to fault fans being pissed off at watching us play defensive minded football with little creativity and being 3-0 down.

 

[BeatleBlade]

When Jim says it will take 3 transfer windows to sort the mess out, is he talking post-Clough? So, we have just had the 2nd of 3 transfer windows or are there another two transfer windows left to sort out the mess?

 

[Grecian2000]

Sadly, I get the impression that there are fans who are hoping for a bad match tomorrow, just to allow them another opportunity to peddle their frustration.

Well name these people who have given you this impression.

I get the impression there are supporters who are hoping for a bad match so they can have a go at the supporters who end up having a go at the players.
See anyone can come up with that sort of stuff.
I can see there being quite a few Egg Chasers turning up tomorrow and the pre-game/early game banter will be as good as any this season. Can the players respond and keep it going? Down to them tpo do so.

This is simply not true.

At Wigan at 2-0 down we (ie the *players*) were getting back into the game and looked most likely to score.

Wigan go up the other end and make it 3-0 - cue chants of, "We're fucking shit." We weren't.

And the workshy, wage-stealing, passionless players came back from three down to 3-3 and could even have won.

Didn't go so can't comment as such (or Oldham), but what you're saying is that the negativity came at 2-0 and 3-0 NOT the start so "simply not true" doesn't apply and the players responded anyway IN SPITE of being shouted at.

 

[PeteBlade]

This is simply not true.

At Wigan at 2-0 down we (ie the *players*) were getting back into the game and looked most likely to score.

Wigan go up the other end and make it 3-0 - cue chants of, "We're fucking shit." We weren't.

And the workshy, wage-stealing, passionless players came back from three down to 3-3 and could even have won.

What a terrible example to give, when we're getting battered 0-3.

 

[PeteBlade]

It's difficult to fault fans being pissed off at watching us play defensive minded football with little creativity and being 3-0 down.

It's pretty clear that WHF will happily fault anyone except those actually at fault.

 

[Rodders]

It's pretty clear that WHF will happily fault anyone except those actually at fault.

..it's like a 14 year old girl at a 1-D concert - just can't face up to the reality that they're just not that good.

 

[MiserableBlader]

Thanks for the summary, I can't really stand his radio interviews.

FFS avoid this one then
He gets kin worse :blue:
24 minutes by the look of it.
And what you get could be said in 24 kin seconds :blue:
Well at least if you said it just the once not 10 times.
2.4 secs if you just did the new stuff not the same old same old
What's the best thing for this headache I now have :blue:

 

[judge]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03hj7ck

Long interview (24:03) - but Andy Giddings tends to go on a bit of a tour with his questions, and Adkins repeatedly reinforces very strong positive messages about: the grit, spirit, hunger, desire and determination of the players, and that the aim is promotion this season.

AG: "There's been a lot of frustration that there weren't any signings, what's your stamp on what happened, or didn't happen, in the latter stages of the January transfer window?" []

• wasn't through a lack of endeavour
• we've lost two League games in three months
• need to support the players [Yes we do.]
• important to highlight that they are having a right go for each other [they are]
• there is spirit and desire [a focus on JTW has the subliminal message of we're not good enough, he does right to emphasise the positives we have]
• realised at about 5-6pm it wasn't going to happen
• have to make sure you don't panic and buy for the sake of buying
• 18 games left, still a possibility of promotion
• Q: Do you think you get adequate support? A: We put money on the table for targets who had been identified for a long time, done the due diligence, young, hungry ambitious players from above and below. (Also mentions and rejects possible criticism of setting sights too high.) Owners have a strong desire to get back to the PL. There's also a strong desire to do well now. Money has been spent across the club. We want to get out of this division and make sure we never come back here again. So there's a short term and a long term plan.
• aim to have 50% of first team as Academy players mentioned
• Q: Jim mentioned 3 JTWs implication this season is a write-off A: There's a definite desire to get us promoted this season.
• I am more than happy to carry the burden of expectation - the buck stops with me - I will lead from the front
• made it clear it's in everybody's interests to be part of a promotion winning team
• loan - maybe one of the targets will become a loan
• three were tracked for a while then, eg, either got into the team or a new manager arrived
• they were realistic targets to help promotion - a shame
• Q: Dan Burn A: Have to be careful when you are talking about other clubs' players
• also important we kept our players
  
• may happen but no specific plans for loans out
• excellent training today has to be taken into the game
• Q: Is the job harder than you expected? A: Crosby and Wilkins doing a good job. Wanted/Wants to play a certain way but had to adapt and go more solid, have to take that on into wins, be on the front foot, adapt a little bit more, turn draws into wins. otoh that's cost us before
• Q: What about the naysayers? A: We have to keep believing. Take the bull by the horns.
• need the supporters to get behind the team during the game [very strong on this] it can be an unbelievable arena to play football in, can drive the players on - come the final whistle that's the time for the criticism
• supporters, players, owners, manager share a common goal
• no injuries, Bob gets a mention

That post is about as balanced and impartial as a kim jong un documentary on north korean tv

 

[judge]

But if that's their opinion on a forum, makes you think what attitude they're taking to the game.

People say stupid things on the internet they regret later
Look at your last few posts for example

 

[Grappler]

When Jim says it will take 3 transfer windows to sort the mess out, is he talking post-Clough? So, we have just had the 2nd of 3 transfer windows or are there another two transfer windows left to sort out the mess?

I think he said it will take three, including this one, so I assume two more, Summer and next January.

Not sure how you can be so accurate as to know the exact number of transfer windows........

 

[alcoblade]

I think he said it will take three, including this one, so I assume two more, Summer and next January.

Not sure how you can be so accurate as to know the exact number of transfer windows........

isn't three (for Adkins) last summer, this January and the coming summer?

Sounds about right to me too - this summer was always the time when we got to jettison most of the garbage.

UTB

 

[Grappler]

isn't three (for Adkins) last summer, this January and the coming summer?

Sounds about right to me too - this summer was always the time when we got to jettison most of the garbage.

UTB

Alco, I am sure Phipps said "It will take us three, including the JTW just gone", and as he only named that one, I assume the other two are ahead of us

 

[alcoblade]

Alco, I am sure Phipps said "It will take us three, including the JTW just gone", and as he only named that one, I assume the other two are ahead of us

Fair does - but it's all guess work.

What we know for sure is that the summer transfer window offers the opportunity to really start again. The level of investment, which should be lower given the contracts which will end, will determine how successful that rebuild will be.

UTB

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

People say stupid things on the internet they regret later
Look at your last few posts for example

Well played. But you know my posts have truth in them. Negativity is engrained into some people. And they like it.

 

[Willie Carlin]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03hj7ck

Long interview (24:03) - but Andy Giddings tends to go on a bit of a tour with his questions, and Adkins repeatedly reinforces very strong positive messages about: the grit, spirit, hunger, desire and determination of the players, and that the aim is promotion this season.

AG: "There's been a lot of frustration that there weren't any signings, what's your stamp on what happened, or didn't happen, in the latter stages of the January transfer window?" []

• wasn't through a lack of endeavour
• we've lost two League games in three months
• need to support the players [Yes we do.]
• important to highlight that they are having a right go for each other [they are]
• there is spirit and desire [a focus on JTW has the subliminal message of we're not good enough, he does right to emphasise the positives we have]
• realised at about 5-6pm it wasn't going to happen
• have to make sure you don't panic and buy for the sake of buying
• 18 games left, still a possibility of promotion
• Q: Do you think you get adequate support? A: We put money on the table for targets who had been identified for a long time, done the due diligence, young, hungry ambitious players from above and below. (Also mentions and rejects possible criticism of setting sights too high.) Owners have a strong desire to get back to the PL. There's also a strong desire to do well now. Money has been spent across the club. We want to get out of this division and make sure we never come back here again. So there's a short term and a long term plan.
• aim to have 50% of first team as Academy players mentioned
• Q: Jim mentioned 3 JTWs implication this season is a write-off A: There's a definite desire to get us promoted this season.
• I am more than happy to carry the burden of expectation - the buck stops with me - I will lead from the front
• made it clear it's in everybody's interests to be part of a promotion winning team
• loan - maybe one of the targets will become a loan
• three were tracked for a while then, eg, either got into the team or a new manager arrived
• they were realistic targets to help promotion - a shame
• Q: Dan Burn A: Have to be careful when you are talking about other clubs' players
• also important we kept our players
  
• may happen but no specific plans for loans out
• excellent training today has to be taken into the game
• Q: Is the job harder than you expected? A: Crosby and Wilkins doing a good job. Wanted/Wants to play a certain way but had to adapt and go more solid, have to take that on into wins, be on the front foot, adapt a little bit more, turn draws into wins. otoh that's cost us before
• Q: What about the naysayers? A: We have to keep believing. Take the bull by the horns.
• need the supporters to get behind the team during the game [very strong on this] it can be an unbelievable arena to play football in, can drive the players on - come the final whistle that's the time for the criticism
• supporters, players, owners, manager share a common goal
• no injuries, Bob gets a mention

I thought it was a good interview myself. Just hope fans get behind the players and reserve their grumbles for the end of the game

 

[judge]

Well played. But you know my posts have truth in them. Negativity is engrained into some people. And they like it.

No person is negative or positive ,people have opinions based on experience

A lot of sheffield united fans have negative feelings towards the club they love

Can you blame them ?

Take the play offs for example our club gambles ever year on stumbling into these and hoping for the best .now the fans arent overly optimistic as for as long as they can remember we dont turn up for them.

To.suggest that umited fans are moaners and try and shift the blame for 6 seasons in league one on them.belies the fact our attendances are as high as they have ever been ( disregarding exceptional seasons)
20 000 turning up every week to watch defensive negative dross ,the notion that they turn up to complain and the even more far fetched notion that the team are playing like they couldnt care less on occasions is down to these fans not getting behind the team like middle aged women at wimbledon is both stupid and cowardly as it alleviates blame from the people who are responsible
which to my reckoning is anyone but the fans

 

[Pollingtonblade]

No person is negative or positive ,people have opinions based on experience

A lot of sheffield united fans have negative feelings towards the club they love

Can you blame them ?

Take the play offs for example our club gambles ever year on stumbling into these and hoping for the best .now the fans arent overly optimistic as for as long as they can remember we dont turn up for them.

To.suggest that umited fans are moaners and try and shift the blame for 6 seasons in league one on them.belies the fact our attendances are as high as they have ever been ( disregarding exceptional seasons)
20 000 turning up every week to watch defensive negative dross ,the notion that they turn up to complain and the even more far fetched notion that the team are playing like they couldnt care less on occasions is down to these fans not getting behind the team like middle aged women at wimbledon is both stupid and cowardly as it alleviates blame from the people who are responsible
which to my reckoning is anyone but the fans

This - I'm fucking sick to bastarding death of being told it's our fault.