Abuse towards players

[Yogi]

Anyone listened to norwoods interview today? It’s been discussed on here previous regarding ramsdale receiving abuse but that interview with Norwood today is heart breaking he’s clearly emotionally distressed about the abuse he’s received on social media. I’ve criticised his performances on here but always had respect for what he’s done for this football club. Anyone directing personal abuse towards him on social media should be ashamed.

 

[Bladeloyal]

Personal abuse is just a cowardly act . justified criticism isn't a problem . unfortunately infantile cowards hide behind internet obscurity.

 

[BladeTillIDie]

Wankers. Usually they don't have a profile picture of themselves either.

 

[steve26272]

I like most on here post an opinion that may not be complementary towards any and all of our players should I feel they deserve it - however its mainly tongue in cheek, and is purely about their football ability (or lack of) post game.

The big difference is that for them to see that, they have to come on this forum, and then open the thread. following a loss and a poor performance from themselves, they are bonkers to, and if they do then 'well you did look'

Nothing like posting on their Twatter page or what ever, which is directed at them

No matter how shit they play, does anyone really believe they go out and think 'nah, try to miss that effort'

How would you feel if that was your son, and you knew he was trying, but then had to put up with the personal abuse?

 

[Swannyblade]

Personal abuse is just a cowardly act . justified criticism isn't a problem . unfortunately infantile cowards hide behind internet obscurity.

I'm not even sure that justified criticism is appropriate if it's being sent directly to players via social media. Fair enough on forums like this for open discussion where he can choose to ignore it, but hundreds of direct messages telling you you're crap can't be helpful. If his work needs to be criticised, then it should be from within the club - teammates, captain, coaches, manager etc.
I can't understand why players still want open lines of communication with the general public...the general public are 'orrible.

 

[corner_flag]

I think they all need a social media intermediary who filters the abuse off their feeds before they see it.

But anyone who abuses their own players is a maggot. And a stupid maggot at that. Not only is it a horrible thing to do, it makes the players worse.

 

[Bladeloyal]

I'm not even sure that justified criticism is appropriate if it's being sent directly to players via social media. Fair enough on forums like this for open discussion where he can choose to ignore it, but hundreds of direct messages telling you you're crap can't be helpful. If his work needs to be criticised, then it should be from within the club - teammates, captain, coaches, manager etc.
I can't understand why players still want open lines of communication with the general public...the general public are 'orrible.

Yes I don't condone direct messaging . If I was I player I'd just keep off social media it's a cess pit .

 

[PokerBlade]

I'm not even sure that justified criticism is appropriate if it's being sent directly to players via social media. Fair enough on forums like this for open discussion where he can choose to ignore it, but hundreds of direct messages telling you you're crap can't be helpful. If his work needs to be criticised, then it should be from within the club - teammates, captain, coaches, manager etc.
I can't understand why players still want open lines of communication with the general public...the general public are 'orrible.

I agree. Social media is a mixed bag but I'm honestly not sure that the human psyche is equipped to deal with the kind of criticism that celebrities get on there. I know there's limited sympathy because of their fame and fortune, which is fair to some degree, but they're still people. Often younger people when it comes to some footballers like Ramsdale or Brewster. I know I wasn't equipped for that kind of abuse at 22.

It also reeks of "this is why we can't have nice things". 10 year old me once ran the length of Bramall Lane's car park to get an autograph from Brian Deane. I think I'd have been over the moon to get a like or a reply from him or Fjortoft at that age. But no, we've got to make it so toxic that kids shouldn't even be reading those pages, and any sane footballer will either pay an agent to manage the account for them or leave social media altogether.

 

[Nosworthys Throw]

I agree its not on but i do wonder why these blokes would have social media accounts, especially if youre sensitive to that sort of thing, just delete it and go about your day no?

 

[Yogi]

I agree. Social media is a mixed bag but I'm honestly not sure that the human psyche is equipped to deal with the kind of criticism that celebrities get on there. I know there's limited sympathy because of their fame and fortune, which is fair to some degree, but they're still people. Often younger people when it comes to some footballers like Ramsdale or Brewster. I know I wasn't equipped for that kind of abuse at 22.

It also reeks of "this is why we can't have nice things". 10 year old me once ran the length of Bramall Lane's car park to get an autograph from Brian Deane. I think I'd have been over the moon to get a like or a reply from him or Fjortoft at that age. But no, we've got to make it so toxic that kids shouldn't even be reading those pages, and any sane footballer will either pay an agent to manage the account for them or leave social media altogether.

I think it would be sensible for the club to expand their social media team and offer a service to players whereby the club manages their public accounts (players should have private anonymous ones for keeping in touch with friends family etc). The club can then filter out the negative/abuse and then forward onto the players the requests for charity work and the chance to reach out to young fans and do community work whilst also posting generic game pictures and quotes etc.

 

[Bashamed]

Hardly a surprise considering the stuff posted on here. It really shocks me the lack of respect for players who've performed miracles for us.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Hardly a surprise considering the stuff posted on here. It really shocks me the lack of respect for players who've performed miracles for us.

Probably the biggest cause of this is that some posters engage mouth before brain, thus exposing the fact that they’ve got a lot of the former and not much of the latter.

 

[bornablade]

Hardly a surprise considering the stuff posted on here. It really shocks me the lack of respect for players who've performed miracles for us.

Particularly those on that 'Shoutbox'

 

[cooperblade]

Hardly a surprise considering the stuff posted on here. It really shocks me the lack of respect for players who've performed miracles for us.

I know we're all different and I try to always at least try and understand where other people are coming from even if I don't agree with what they're saying but in terms of the abuse of our own players (in all its forms), I just don't get it.

Whether it's making up childish nicknames for our own players on here, screaming vile abuse at them at a game or @ing them on twitter - why? Maybe it's really over-simplistic but if you genuinely support the club, what sense does it make to do things that will harm it? And to be fair, never mind the football side of it - what sort of a human being do you have to be to do it (and to be clear I'm talking about abuse at the ground or directed at a player online - not the silly bollocks stuff on here).

It just makes me feel a bit sad to be honest. I decided a while ago to exercise my right to choose what I do and don't read online so I'm very trigger happy with the block / mute / ignore functions. That's definitely helped a lot. Just wish I could do the same at games sometimes.

It's a massive shame that footballers can't enjoy the positives of social media but even though it's letting the dickheads win, I wouldn't be on there if I was playing.

Anyway, hopefully we can get back in the ground soon to show our appreciation for Norwood and everyone else who have given us some brilliant times as fans.

 

[Drunk blade]

Anyone listened to norwoods interview today? It’s been discussed on here previous regarding ramsdale receiving abuse but that interview with Norwood today is heart breaking he’s clearly emotionally distressed about the abuse he’s received on social media. I’ve criticised his performances on here but always had respect for what he’s done for this football club. Anyone directing personal abuse towards him on social media should be ashamed.

Heartbreaking is a bit of a strong word to use, let's put it in perspective it's not a kid dying of cancer, it's a multi millionaire getting abuse for being crap at the thing he's getting paid millions to do.

I like Norwood and I think he gets a lot of undeserved criticism but ffs just report and block the person or even better come off twitter, Instagram and all that shit and do some extra training instead

 

[Yogi]

Heartbreaking is a bit of a strong word to use, let's put it in perspective it's not a kid dying of cancer, it's a multi millionaire getting abuse for being crap at the thing he's getting paid millions to do.

I like Norwood and I think he gets a lot of undeserved criticism but ffs just report and block the person or even better come off twitter, Instagram and all that shit and do some extra training instead

I’m in no way saying it’s the worst thing anyone has ever experienced but for me someone’s mental state being negatively impacted by someone else is a pretty big trigger and not something I’m ever ok with seeing.

 

[AWetFlannel]

 

[ancientblade]

apparently wednesday players were bombarded with abuse on social media after they lost to rotherham its rife in the modern era

 

[AWetFlannel]

Heartbreaking is a bit of a strong word to use, let's put it in perspective it's not a kid dying of cancer, it's a multi millionaire getting abuse for being crap at the thing he's getting paid millions to do.

I like Norwood and I think he gets a lot of undeserved criticism but ffs just report and block the person or even better come off twitter, Instagram and all that shit and do some extra training instead

Norwood might report and block someone, but it takes 10mins to make a new account.

I've never had any social media but I understand that it's a massive part of people's lives now, checking Twitter is like breathing for some nowadays.

 

[CrookesBlade]

Some people seem to think its their duty to give dogs abuse to the players if they aren't getting the desired results. In this world players are only deemed worthy of support if they are already doing well. These people may think they are 'supporters' but in reality their relationship with the club is completely transactional.

If I was a footballer I would just stay off it. I've had to delete the apps after a couple of games this season and I'm only sat at home watching the games on TV. The constant negativity/whining/vitriol really starts to get you down. Watching the tide turn so rapidly on players we were lauding to the heavens in the past few seasons, as well as youngsters making their way in the game is really grim.

Most people use social media to some degree and it takes on an ever increasing importance within everyday life. Just like the internet, was a niche thing in the 90s, its something you pretty much can't live without and social media will ultimately go the same way. Despite the huge downsides to platforms like Twitter and Facebook they can be useful/informative and ultimately a necessary part of life. I'd be annoyed if my job prevented me from using it but for the sake of their careers players need to stay off it. The chance for you to post up a few pictures from your holidays in Dubai really isn't worth the hassle.

Football is a passionate game and either playing or watching in the heat of the moment I've said plenty of things to and about people I wouldn't in any other situation. That said there is something seriously odd about getting your phone out after you've had a few cans in an evening sending a DM to a player at the club you claim to support and saying something that's clearly going to have an impact on them (and not in a good way). When you listen to players talking about how tough you need to be to make it as a pro and play in front of 20,000 people calling you a cunt or whatever....that's one thing. This is something else.

 

[mattbianco1]

Video here:

 

[true99blade]

Heartbreaking is a bit of a strong word to use, let's put it in perspective it's not a kid dying of cancer, it's a multi millionaire getting abuse for being crap at the thing he's getting paid millions to do.

I like Norwood and I think he gets a lot of undeserved criticism but ffs just report and block the person or even better come off twitter, Instagram and all that shit and do some extra training instead

So “putting it into perspective” means it’s alright to send nasty shite to someone if they earn X amount? The guy disabled his comments section on his social media it doesn’t mean it can’t still eat away at him mentally.

 

[Drunk blade]

So “putting it into perspective” means it’s alright to send nasty shite to someone if they earn X amount? The guy disabled his comments section on his social media it doesn’t mean it can’t still eat away at him mentally.

No and I didn't say that did I, I just said it's not heartbreaking because its really not is it...

 

[Varkanoid]

It will be abuse on Twitter its always from there with Celebs or people in the limelight. It can be a real viper pit its like the general public version of The Sun

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

He looks understandably affected, and it is clear from watching that, that he cares.

People would do well to treat those who care about their club with more compassion, there's a way of conducting yourself and communicating your frustrations.

 

[bypassblade]

In my mind they're are 2 different things it's one thing to say a player had a poor game or, even a bad game most people say that when they attend. The big difference here is if I'm right people going online to personally abuse the players, this is not acceptable no matter what colour or religion they are.

They are people if you cut them do they not bleed, thankfully I don't do SM I ain't got a clue what a twitter is, or summat gram or is it tik tok and no clue what a pod cast is. I'm very computer literate but just haven't got an interest as to when some Z list celebrity last had a shit, the internet and SM has over the years allowed people with no backbone to sit behind a keyboard and abuse someone.

It then doesn't help when some twat says of the abuser oh it was their 1st time, they deserve a 2nd chance, they don't they want banning and prosecuting. This country has a shit attitude to abuse of people and in general we favour the attacker and not the defendant. I feel for these black or foreign or ethnic players getting abused and then all that's done is lip service, this is 2021 not 1761, it's no wonder any gay footballer (or any gay) will come out they'd get slaughtered just for being themselves.

 

[Smirth]

That is actually quite upsetting to see how it's affected him. Since signing for us he's always come across as a hard working, honest guy who cares about the club and has really brought in to the ethos of the club. Not to mention the huge change in our fortunes which his arrival brought about, he completely transformed the team almost overnight in to the one which went on to win promotion.

It's completely shameful and anyone dishing out personal abuse to any of our players aren't proper fans of our club. It's abhorrent and disgraceful.

 

[FriethBlade]

The only way social media abuse will stop is if abuse on there is treated like it would be in the street. If u are overly aggressive and abusive to someone in 'real life' you can be arrested for foul and abusive language (although few people are) . If this applied to social media and a few people were arrested it might make people think twice.

I have to say if I was high profile theres no way I'd be on twitter/Instagram et al

 

[Davalon]

Never understood any fan who would send abuse, or even criticism tbh, directly to a player's social media account.

Whilst these nobheads will always have existed in some format, I do think the behaviour and abuse dished out by celebrities (including footballers) on social media has meant many civvies think it's fair game too.

 

[Davalon]

I do think also that many football fans are hypocrites.

They will lambast abuse on social media or criticism of our own players but be ok about abuse of opposition players.

Its always been the culture in football in my lifetime.

For some it's heinous to criticise your own players but perfectly acceptable to abuse the opposition.

I remember years ago standing on the away end at Ewood Park and the United fans laying into Bobby Mimms because his wife had just left him. I was near the front and at times he genuinely looked crestfallen.

All those hundreds, if not more, who were laughing at him and abusing him would have done the same in the pub or street?

I've not been an angel and thrown some terrible abuse at the opposition over the years. Steve Bailey wanted to throw me out for abusing Steve Bruce from behind the dug out years ago.

I'm not remotely proud of my comments looking back.

I'm not for sanitising football much and I'd be a liar if I said I don't miss the days on the West Terrace and in G and H block. That said football has had a culture of acceptable abuse for decades that will always lead to many crossing the line.