Absolutely disrespectful

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

This "No plan B" crap is the most boring, senseless, tripe spouted by our so called fans.
Under CW we've changed shape, tactics, personnel, etc many, many, times.

It's everyone's right to have opinions but this continual repetitive statement reeks of people repeating crap because they think it sounds knowledgeable. In truth it's just uninformed drivel.

Evening Knilly! Good of you to join us!

Changing personnel and shape - I'll give you, but tactics??? Pull the other one!!

This continual repetitive statements reeks of people who are trying to defend the indefensible. But but but, no one expected us to be third, but but but more wins, but but but Souttar/Arblaster, but but but...

We can't set up tactically to be a consistent front foot team who takes the game to the opposition with a squad that includes Hamer, OHare, Rak Sakhi, Campbell, BBD, Brooks, Peck and a £10m striker.... Absolutely wild.

 

[Houston_Blade]

What our club needs is an inspirational leader.

Chansiri for example has stated that he only ever looks at 'top two'.

I don't think many teams set off in August with the aim of finishing like Luton or Cardiff.

He can look at the top two as much as he likes but his players are shit and his manager is the German equivalent of Gary Rowett so he’s getting nowhere near it.

 

[Carlton Blade]

This "No plan B" crap is the most boring, senseless, tripe spouted by our so called fans.
Under CW we've changed shape, tactics, personnel, etc many, many, times.

It's everyone's right to have opinions but this continual repetitive statement reeks of people repeating crap because they think it sounds knowledgeable. In truth it's just uninformed drivel.

I'll assume you yourself are knowledgeable enough to describe the shape and tactics changes we've seen this season. For those of us too dense to do this ourselves, who see the same formulaic stuff each week and an aversion to any type of risk on the ball, it would be really useful

 

[wak1889]

So the end result is all that counts, not how exciting the games are perceived to be ?

So you are now countering your own argument because for the majority of the season we have been crap but got wins, the majority of the season Leeds have played much more attacking football than us but their keeper has cost them wins

 

[MTBlade]

For me its quite simple-

If you are coming to the front to own the wins by kissing the badge and taking the plaudits, then you have to own the losses too.

You cant pick and choose.

Credit for the league position, but the football has been dire to watch imo.

 

[Keen Blade]

I give you Jack O’Connell……

Whom he failed to replace ,

Choosing instead to pump £20m & daft wages into an unproven and ultimately a failure of a striker.

History of misjudgement repeating itself with Souttar/Cannon

 

[Keen Blade]

And in your opinion we should be fined "or maybe even a points deduction" because of that?

Seriously?

Which rock do you live under ?

Don't you understand the bias of the authorities against your club ?

Does anything happen to other clubs for similar incidents ?

No.

What about the pigsty where fireworks are thrown and explode inches from players ?
Anything happen ?

FFS , if you don't know that the FA take every opportunity to fuck us , I dunno where you've been.

So , given that - isn't it a lot feckin stupid to provide them with opportunities ?

Repeated fines hasn't worked so if I was your typical Blades-hating FA TwoHat , I'd be salivating at the prospect of imposing a perfectly justifiable points-deduction and delay imposing it so it can hurt us next season , after fucking us this season with the 2-point deduction.
Maybe double it to 4 points (coz it was only 2 this season) like they do with the fines.

 

[Slugger]

Which rock do you live under ?

Don't you understand the bias of the authorities against your club ?

Does anything happen to other clubs for similar incidents ?

No.

What about the pigsty where fireworks are thrown and explode inches from players ?
Anything happen ?

FFS , if you don't know that the FA take every opportunity to fuck us , I dunno where you've been.

So , given that - isn't it a lot feckin stupid to provide them with opportunities ?

Repeated fines hasn't worked so if I was your typical Blades-hating FA TwoHat , I'd be salivating at the prospect of imposing a perfectly justifiable points-deduction and delay imposing it so it can hurt us next season , after fucking us this season with the 2-point deduction.
Maybe double it to 4 points (coz it was only 2 this season) like they do with the fines.

Agree with all of that but nobody decided to provide the FA with an opportunity to punish us.
The whole "incident" was a result of 30-40 professional sportsman, (50% of them gutted at losing a crucial match and the rest elated for the opposite reason), using a narrow tunnel minutes after the contest.
A little bit of pushing and shoving admittedly but not enough to concern either manager or even the referee.
Sky then attempt to make an issue by repeatedly reshowing CW having a 4 second conversation with 2 Plymouth players, the usual tabloids jump on the story using words like "fighting" and the FA have no choice but to charge both teams.
In a scene reminiscent of a referee being called to the touchline to review his decision, suddenly the ref did see something after all after previously saying he didn't !!
It's an emotional game. Despite everyone connected with the club knowing that the FA will fuck us over at every opportunity, I don't think any player after the game is going to allow themselves to be shoved and not shove back.

 

[BigBed]

I find it quite disrespectful, that the new owners haven't engaged at all with the fans.
Other than a walk n wave, and a club statement, weve heard nothing, and that to me, makes me think this is purely a business move, rather than a, what's best for the club, move.
Only my opinion, but they want us to fork out for tickets etc, but don't seem to have the decency, to release any kind of speech, maybe an interview of something along those lines.
Little poor in my opinion, but that's just me.

 

[Carlton Blade]

I find it quite disrespectful, that the new owners haven't engaged at all with the fans.
Other than a walk n wave, and a club statement, weve heard nothing, and that to me, makes me think this is purely a business move, rather than a, what's best for the club, move.
Only my opinion, but they want us to fork out for tickets etc, but don't seem to have the decency, to release any kind of speech, maybe an interview of something along those lines.
Little poor in my opinion, but that's just me.

"STFU and stay out of football decisions (beyond financial approval)" is the advice new owners almost always avoid. I've been pleasantly surprised by their actions so far.

Unfortunately, I think we'll see more if the 'personal touch' this summer. Rich people can rarely help themselves. I hope I'm wrong and they appoint someone to run the football operations side on their behalf

 

[ATL Recs]

I find it quite disrespectful, that the new owners haven't engaged at all with the fans.
Other than a walk n wave, and a club statement, weve heard nothing, and that to me, makes me think this is purely a business move, rather than a, what's best for the club, move.
Only my opinion, but they want us to fork out for tickets etc, but don't seem to have the decency, to release any kind of speech, maybe an interview of something along those lines.
Little poor in my opinion, but that's just me.

I’m happy if it’s a planned business move that’s what the club needs - which is what I assume they are working on and it will become clearer to us when the time is right -after the season ends
Surely they should leave it for now and focus on the football no other distractions

 

[BigBed]

"STFU and stay out of football decisions (beyond financial approval)" is the advice new owners almost always avoid. I've been pleasantly surprised by their actions so far.

Unfortunately, I think we'll see more if the 'personal touch' this summer. Rich people can rarely help themselves. I hope I'm wrong and they appoint someone to run the football operations side on their behalf

I'm not saying anything about their actions, other than the lack of introduction to the fans.
Just an interview with the media team, to introduce themselves, to tell us a bit about themselves and maybe their vision.

 

[Carlton Blade]

I'm not saying anything about their actions, other than the lack of introduction to the fans.
Just an interview with the media team, to introduce themselves, to tell us a bit about themselves and maybe their vision.

I get what you're saying. I'm just quite happy with owners who 'own' and let employees handle the stuff they are paid for

 

[MTBlade]

Im not sure what they can say.

We all remember the 'think Liverpool' comment and how many times United fans have used it as a mocking/sarcastic term to have a dig.

With society now, some people hang onto every word someone says and with so many media and social media platforms, the comments never go away.

In my opinion, actions speak louder than words.

They have given a new contract to Wilder and spent big 'for us' in January.

I certainly have my opinions on the above (like so many others), but i dont know what id like them to say, to be honest.

 

[Champagneblade]

This "No plan B" crap is the most boring, senseless, tripe spouted by our so called fans.
Under CW we've changed shape, tactics, personnel, etc many, many, times.

It's everyone's right to have opinions but this continual repetitive statement reeks of people repeating crap because they think it sounds knowledgeable. In truth it's just uninformed drivel.

In fairness to Wilder he built one successful team playing 3-4-1-2. He then successfully adjusted it to 3-5-2 in the PL using overlapping centre backs which I would argue never got “found out”, it just struggled because O’Connell was irreplaceable and got a career ending injury. We become like a bird with only one wing.

He’s then created a team which on the field at least, is 2 points away from gaining 90 points, a total that would have gotten the last team promoted. He’s done this playing 4-2-3-1.

It’s fair to say he’s not been wedded to one thing.

All managers get accused of having no Plan B. It’s because they build their team around Plan A and when the players are not producing the solution is often to carry on with what is drilled but change the players. Not saying that should be the only way but you can understand.

That being said it doesn’t seem a rigid formation, as Gus and O’Hare are given licence to appear anywhere.

Basically form has dropped, a few players have not been playing well and the natural reaction is to throw the baby out with the bath water.

The solution is simple. If the players are good enough then they’ll show form between now and the end of the season. If they aren’t, they won’t. At this stage, with more wins than anyone I don’t feel it’s got all that much to do with the manager; if he plays Rak-Sakyi or Brereton-Diaz is there really much difference in their ability?

The players have to show how much they want it. That will decide the season now. 46 matches and favourable head to heads have shown we are better than Bristol City and Coventry for example. Now go and show it. Unless Leeds or Burnley are about to do us a massive favour.

 

[Tom Bott]

So you are now countering your own argument

I'm not having an argument, after 50 years of watching the Blades I only have a philosophical viewpoint.

I note however that when we are winning, 'fans' complain that it is not entertaining enough.

Yet if we loose 'fans' complain, saying that we should be winning.

It's hardly united.

Unity is what helped propel us to the PL the first time, now 'fans' seem more interested in who might be the next manager, because the future 'may' provide more entertainment and 'may' provide more success than we have currently. (entitlement ?)
I'm sure that Blackburn, Norwich, Stoke, Sunderland and even Wendy (going back 25 years) fans all thought the same.

Now add Leicester, Southampton and soon Ipswich Town, fans for whom it's not good enough, get XYZ out.

 

[Tom Bott]

I find it quite disrespectful, that the new owners haven't engaged at all with the fans.

Though Steve Rosen was at the Portland Works last week, where my workshop is.

McCabe has also visited, but not PA.

 

[The Crab]

I understand why lots of fans, not just ours, like the idea of "one-of-our-own" (although that chant is a bit cringey to me) but is it really helpful?

Let's take the example of Athletic Bilbao. They have this very proud tradition of only allowing Basques to play for them. They've had to stretch the definition somewhat in order to remain competitive but they still stick to it.

But, in all that time they've never insisted on their manager being Basque. There's been many Basques but they've also had the likes of Heynckes and Bielsa. They even employed Howard Kendall. Cheers.

Anyway, the point is, if they have this fairly rigid tradition to severely limit their player pool, why is it that don't they extend that to the manager?

It’s worse than that.

Kendall was so hammered most of the time he thought they said that he had to wear a basque, not be one…

 

[BigBed]

Though Steve Rosen was at the Portland Works last week, where my workshop is.

McCabe has also visited, but not PA.

Nice bloke? You seem to be a man that will know.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Nice bloke? You seem to be a man that will know.

Walked in, said he didn’t like football and didn’t give a shit about Sheffield, that we wouldn’t see him ever and should ask the manager if anyone has any issues.

He also had a t-shirt on saying ‘Yusuf is my hero’

 

[Sheffsteel]

I know you’re a young lad and probably still idolise the likes of Wilder, in reality he’s a bit of a tit. If he weren’t a Blade he’d get a lot less rope than he does at present. Having come across him over the years he’s not a nice bloke and is very full of himself. He’s losing the plot a bit (again) when he starts getting criticised.

Set in his ways, opinionated and can’t admit when he’s wrong, a bit like me really!

Bit like Brian Clough and Jose Mourinho too.

The extreme criticisms for and against Wilder do have some validity. I’ll always be massively grateful to Wilder for giving me my best times supporting us in 50 years.

Even under Bassett when playing the likes of Arsenal and Spurs, we were never going away to their grounds full of confidence expecting to give them a proper game expecting to pick up points.

There was a spell where almost every away fan said when they’d played us, it was one of their worse displays in years, that’s because we often outplayed opposition teams. I can even remember the home game against Man Utd at the Lane, 2-0 up but we totally outclassed them and it could have been 4-0 at half-time.

In short, getting any team from bottom of league 1 to being 6th in the Premier league challenging for a champions league spot is one of the most impressive runs in recent decades.

However I agree with much of the negative criticism Andrew/ Roy has given Wilder on the Bladespod. He rightly says almost every game is quite even where we edge it and always do just enough to win. However he can’t see a pattern of play, we seem to score from individual quality. Also why buy Holding and not play him when the defence has been struggling. And quite often when subs are made we become worse not better.

Expectations were low in early August because we hardly had any players. At the time I told our fans not to worry as it was obvious there would be loads of good quality players set to arrive and they did.

After the signings we have the 3rd highest budget and 3rd best squad, so we should finish 3rd. In my mind if we finish 3rd we’ve not overachieved or underachieved. Still think he’s done a decent job, building foundations for the club.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Nice bloke? You seem to be a man that will know.

That's good!Steven Rosen seems to be the one who has direct contact with the local area Portland works!
Never heard any news regarding the Prince and the local area when he was owner.
They will still be finalising a plan for the future and local involvement will be part of this hopefully.
Will be interesting how they tackle the training ground project its so easy to step on toes and cause a rift locally.The area will be a lot busier with work to do creating the facility and in the future coming and goings in an area with cars etc during the day.
Softly softly does it.