A sad, sad day for Blades fans

[Stockholm syndrom]

Robins has no wendy connections....still would have been an uninspiring appointment though wouldn't it DP is what i was getting at.

We need an appointment that will excite the fans yet more importantly bring us together.

We need a manager to UNITE the fans! Only managers I can think of (realistic targets) would be RDM/Hill who I think would go some way in doing that.

 

[bricktop]

Not the appointment of Wilson.

All this vitrol towards a man whop once managed a team from the same city as us. A porfessional that managed the team that our cousins, uncles, aunties and friends support.

Many have already pointed out the hypocrisy. Will you all be clapping when Maguire is sold for the highest bid? Forget the promising young talent, he supports Wednesday!* Did Brownie and the rest of you numpties sit down on your hands when Alan Quinn scored the winner against Wednesday in 2005? Did we boo Geary and Bromby out of the club. What about Porterfield?

I think the protest is simply PATHETIC. What sad, little lives you lead. Brownie's hypocrticial 'look at me, look at me' posts have reached a new level. Now this has snowballed and all the numpties will be running down to the Lane. It is not very often I am embarrassed to be a Blade, but this protest makes me so. I suppose you always meet/see/hear one numpty at every United game (the one shouting over your soldier that the team is shit when we are winning or complaining that the part time support is pissing him off when 30k fans have made Bramall Lane a fortress) and this will be the couple of hundred who make it down to the car park today. Good on you lads I hope it rains.

Before anyone comes back with 'Wilson is shit'. Just have a look at his record. It is not brilliant, but it is not shit. In fact it looks remarkably similar to the record of Micky Adams. This is the Micky Adams that a certain Mr Brown was saying needed more time. The man who shamefully relegated when we seemed out of danger and is officially the worst manager in the history of SUFC!



* Steven Gerrard, Robbie Fowlder and Jamie Carragher all supported Everton growing up.

Its not all about being a 'hypocritical look at me, look at me' post, its about being one of many supporters who are unbeliveably pissed off about this appointment.

We have had a golden opportunity to appoint a new manager with fresh ideas, and someone who can rebuild this club and take it forwards. We have failed to do that, and appointed someone with a very average track record.

Danny Wilson has managed several clubs without any real success apart from his first managerial stint at Barnsley, and an odd promotion thrown in at Hartlepool. Its not exactly inspiring stuff on his CV is it?

As for the stuff about him being an ex-pig, it didn't really come in to my thinking. Danny Wilson is a poor manager in my opinion and at this important time is an dull, uninspiring appointment when he had the chance to go out there and several lot better candidates.

 

[beechblade]

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I know because Robins has managed 2 clubs and done the best he can at those 2 clubs.

And has no wendy connections....still would have been an uninspiring appointment though wouldn't it?[/QUOTE]

Technically he has, he was on loan there, I wasn't really up for Robins as our manager, i think however he was a manager on a decent record with clubs with no funds, he signed some half decent players at Barnsley, he looked for youth players and mixed it with a combination of experience, it seemed to work and I think he may have done well, his stock is certainly more on the rise than Wilson's. Wilson's stock is in decline, he has been stuck in this division too long and has failed to get multiple teams out it, he also bottled it in a crucial time of Swindon's season, just as they dropped into the relegation zone, thats why I'm against him being appointed.

If anyone heard Micky's interview with Sky yesterday it seems KMc was after a even bigger 'Yes man.' And a man who's stock is very much indecline is that kind of appointment.

 

[davidpinder]

Its not all about being a 'hypocritical look at me, look at me' post, its about being one of many supporters who are unbeliveably pissed off about this appointment.

We have had a golden opportunity to appoint a new manager with fresh ideas, and someone who can rebuild this club and take it forwards. We have failed to do that, and appointed someone with a very average track record.

Danny Wilson has managed several clubs without any real success apart from his first managerial stint at Barnsley, and an odd promotion thrown in at Hartlepool. Its not exactly inspiring stuff on his CV is it?

As for the stuff about him being an ex-pig, it didn't really come in to my thinking. Danny Wilson is a poor manager in my opinion and at this important time is an dull, uninspiring appointment when he had the chance to go out there and several lot better candidates.

And finally he gets involved good to have you with us brownie.

 

[cooperblade]

Yes it is his record is simply shite at best.

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I know because Robins has managed 2 clubs and done the best he can at those 2 clubs.

If that's the best Robins can do, then thank god we didn't end up with the ex-pig.

 

[davidpinder]

And has no wendy connections....still would have been an uninspiring appointment though wouldn't it?

Technically he has, he was on loan there, I wasn't really up for Robins as a manager, i think however he was a manager on a decent record with clubs with no funds, he signed some half decent players at Barnsley, he looked for youth players and mixed it with a combination of experience, it seemed to work and I think he may have done well, his stock is certainly more on the rise than Wilson's.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't going to get excited about robins but given the choice wilson or robins then i would go with robins every time.

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If that's the best Robins can do, then thank god we didn't end up with the ex-pig.

What else should he have done at a club with no money in league 2 and a club with no money and in a relegation right most seasons in the championship? He managed to do what collectively 4 managers couldn't do between them in a season at the lane.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Why is it naive? Just because you've got a different opinion? Well i must say i find that opinion a little one-dimensional.

Apart from the fact that his Wednesday connections have been mentioned more than any other negative is kind of a hint. Micky Adams was claimed by just as many people to be crap when he came in.....where was the protest Highbury? One doesnt need to engage the mind too much to see what people are in most objection to. Even those that say it isnt the main problem keep mentioning it.

Yes it is his record is simply shite at best.

Here's the thing.....no it isn't.

 

[Dog Blade]

This 'Browny' has to agree with the majority of stuff on this thread - great post Ollie

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Apart from the fact that his Wednesday connections have been mentioned more than any other negative is kind of a hint. Micky Adams was claimed by just as many people to be crap when he came in.....where was the protest Highbury? One doesnt need to engage the mind too much to see what people are in most objection to. Even those that say it isnt the main problem keep mentioning it.

Here's the thing.....no it isn't.

Lot's of people were unhappy with the Adams appointment.

I would suggest that a large amount of the vitriol is that we had a golden opportunity (As brownie says) to reshape this club, and put it on a solid foundation for success. A lot of people (Me included) is that this is a monumental fuckup by McCabe in appointing a man whose greatest achievement was 15 years ago, and his career since then has been a slide down the divisions.

We needed a manager to unite the fans, but instead we're getting an incredibly divisive one. Yes some numpties will be mostly angry because he's a pig, but there will be lots of people who are incredibly angry because we've appointed someone on the way down.

I would suggest that the anger at the board and club in general is far greater than it was in January, which is why there is a protest at this appointment, and not Adams. Simplistic people will think this is purely to do with Adams being a blade. I hope you're not one of them, because you don't come across as being simplistic. Brownies's already stated his reason's for starting it off, which doesn't include wilson's past as a grunter as a reason.

 

[Ollessendro]

Its not all about being a 'hypocritical look at me, look at me' post, its about being one of many supporters who are unbeliveably pissed off about this appointment.

We have had a golden opportunity to appoint a new manager with fresh ideas, and someone who can rebuild this club and take it forwards. We have failed to do that, and appointed someone with a very average track record.

Danny Wilson has managed several clubs without any real success apart from his first managerial stint at Barnsley, and an odd promotion thrown in at Hartlepool. Its not exactly inspiring stuff on his CV is it?

As for the stuff about him being an ex-pig, it didn't really come in to my thinking. Danny Wilson is a poor manager in my opinion and at this important time is an dull, uninspiring appointment when he had the chance to go out there and several lot better candidates.

That's exactly what it is. Just like your open letter to Batho it's an attempt to grab attention.

Your hypocrisy gets even worse. You were saying that Micky Adams deserved more time after he disasterously got us relegated. The worst manager in the history of SUFC, someone with a very average CV, deserved more time. 4 wins in 2 odd games. Ah, but he is a Blade.

I do not think Wilson's CV is that bad. It is certainly not worse than Robbins, or your beloved Micky Adams. His most recent position at Swindon he built a good team (at this level) and was damn unlucky not to get promoted. Then he had his best players sold.

Who would you choose Brownie? Keith Hill who has a contract somewhere else and just turned down a team in a higher division? Pembo? A manager with little or no experience? A manager who did little or nothing with Barnsley and Rotherham? Have you not realised that we are shit??! We have just been relegated and are in the third tier. We have no money, a wank squad and things look bleak. Sleeping giant maybe, but the new manager has a massive job to do.

Come off it. This is about Wilson being ex Wednesday. This is what has produced this reaction. This protest is ill timed and pathetic. If you were protesting against McCabe's poor decisions over a long period of time then I would be sympathetic (as would many others). But welcoming our new manager with a protest saying 'we don't want you you pig', 'you (alledgedly) said bad things about us once' is just sad.

 

[davidpinder]

Here's the thing.....no it isn't.

How can you say that? Has he managed a club i don't know about???

Barnsley 94-98 took them to prem well done (over ten years ago though)
pigs 98-00 then were in prem and they stayed got sack
Bristol city 00-04 got sack after not getting them up in 4 attempts
MK Dons 04-06 took them down in 2nd second after it should have been in his first but for wrexham point decuction
Hartlepool 06-08 took hartlepool up to league 1 from 2 not exactly a major achievement
Swindon 08-11 took them to playoff final lost and left them in the relegation zone this season when the going go tough

Seriously steel what am i missing with his record?????

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I would suggest that the anger at the board and club in general is far greater than it was in January, which is why there is a protest at this appointment, and not Adams. Simplistic people will think this is purely to do with Adams being a blade. I hope you're not one of them, because you don't come across as being simplistic.

I dont believe for one second that it was because he's a Blade, I believe the difference between the two was simply because Adams wasn't an ex-pig. Wilson is.....and that's why most are kicking off. Nothing will convince me any different. People are looking for any other reason to disguise the fact they're simply against due to association.

Brownies's already stated his reason's for starting it off, which doesn't include wilson's past as a grunter as a reason.

Like I said.....I don't believe that.

A protest will achieve NOTHING.....absolutely nothing and if we are to believe that things are bad at the moment, any kind of protest can only make things worse. Its going to make the club look ridiculous and isn't going to reverse the decision. He wasn't my choice Highbury and I'm not championing him.....but the bed has been made now and whether we like it or not we will have to lay in it. As Linz said somewhere earlier, a small gathering of protestors is not going to sway McCabe who will have made this decision knowing full well what the initial reaction would be. Danny is a Blade now.....deal with it!

 

[beechblade]

I dont believe for one second that it was because he's a Blade, I believe the difference between the two was simply because Adams wasn't an ex-pig. Wilson is.....and that's why most are kicking off. Nothing will convince me any different. People are looking for any other reason to disguise the fact they're simply against due to association.



Like I said.....I don't believe that.

A protest will achieve NOTHING.....absolutely nothing and if we are to believe that things are bad at the moment, any kind of protest can only make things worse. Its going to make the club look ridiculous and isn't going to reverse the decision. He wasn't my choice Highbury and I'm not championing him.....but the bed has been made now and whether we like it or not we will have to lay in it. As Linz said somewhere earlier, a small gathering of protestors is not going to sway McCabe who will have made this decision knowing full well what the initial reaction would be. Danny is a Blade now.....deal with it!

The club already has tainted it's reputation with 5 managers in 9 months, it's not fans who are fed up that make us embrassing.

The protest for me are against the board, I'm sorry if that rubs an ilk with you and others buit I feel like I've come to the end of my thether, I feel I need to voice my opinion, so I will, don't knock me for my difference of view, it's how I want to express my anger and disillusion, we all have our own ways of doing things. I'll deal with it how I want, that's the beuty of having a difference of opinion.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Seriously steel what am i missing with his record?????

The much more attractive football on offer and the sale of his best players under his nose with at least two of those clubs. I'm not saying he's a great manager dp, I'm not convinced he's still got what it takes either.....but he's not crap. Thats way over the top! I can show you some managerial records that are crap.....they would make Wilson look like Jose Mourinho!!!!

For the record.....of the four main candidates in the running Danny Wilson has won more than any of them. On that basis there is some justification, even if he wasnt my choice!

 

[travellingblade]

I think that the original post by Olle is spot on, however, surely there is a better qualified Manager out there ready to take us on.

I was one that wanted MA to be given a chance.

I'm not sure that I want to give DW a chance, but I guess we're stuck with him, unless it's 6 or more in 12 months.

What a waste of money that statistic is!

 

[Barney Rubble]

Not the appointment of Wilson.

All this vitrol towards a man whop once managed a team from the same city as us. A porfessional that managed the team that our cousins, uncles, aunties and friends support.

Many have already pointed out the hypocrisy. Will you all be clapping when Maguire is sold for the highest bid? Forget the promising young talent, he supports Wednesday!* Did Brownie and the rest of you numpties sit down on your hands when Alan Quinn scored the winner against Wednesday in 2005? Did we boo Geary and Bromby out of the club. What about Porterfield?

I think the protest is simply PATHETIC. What sad, little lives you lead. Brownie's hypocrticial 'look at me, look at me' posts have reached a new level. Now this has snowballed and all the numpties will be running down to the Lane. It is not very often I am embarrassed to be a Blade, but this protest makes me so. I suppose you always meet/see/hear one numpty at every United game (the one shouting over your soldier that the team is shit when we are winning or complaining that the part time support is pissing him off when 30k fans have made Bramall Lane a fortress) and this will be the couple of hundred who make it down to the car park today. Good on you lads I hope it rains.

Before anyone comes back with 'Wilson is shit'. Just have a look at his record. It is not brilliant, but it is not shit. In fact it looks remarkably similar to the record of Micky Adams. This is the Micky Adams that a certain Mr Brown was saying needed more time. The man who shamefully relegated when we seemed out of danger and is officially the worst manager in the history of SUFC!



* Steven Gerrard, Robbie Fowlder and Jamie Carragher all supported Everton growing up.

Since you wanted Adams out why are you so keen on a replacement whose record as you admit is just as shit. Didn't you want better, not the same old same old?

Secondly, since clearly no Blade wants Maguire to go, do you beleve that the appointment of Wilson will bring the day he leaves nearer or further away? His record at Swindon suggests he'll be looking the other way whilst McCabe flogs everybody he can.

McCabe also built fans hopes up with his nudges and winks in the direction of RDM and Hughton that the appointment of Wilson now seems to many to be the ultimate pisstake.

If you've known for ages that McCabe truly is the worst we've had then I can understand the schaudenfreude you feel at the sight of so many clappers suddenly turning slasher overnight, but please recognise the appointment for what it is, a disaster for the Blades.

I want to see football at the Lane but it has to be successful otherwise we'll be back playing hoofball by the end of the season.

Here's a list of managers who I think would have been a better appointment, so if we conducted a rigorous selection process how have we ended up with Wilson?

Greg Abbott George Burley Paul Buckle Steve Coppell Keith Curle
Roberto Di Matteo Roy Evans Darren Ferguson Glyn Hodges Keith Hill
Gary Johnson Sammy McIlroy John Pemberton Russell Slade John Sheridan
Paolo Sousa Steve Tisdale Gary Waddock Chris Wilder

 

[Houso]

That's exactly what it is. Just like your open letter to Batho it's an attempt to grab attention.

Your hypocrisy gets even worse. You were saying that Micky Adams deserved more time after he disasterously got us relegated. The worst manager in the history of SUFC, someone with a very average CV, deserved more time. 4 wins in 2 odd games. Ah, but he is a Blade.

I do not think Wilson's CV is that bad. It is certainly not worse than Robbins, or your beloved Micky Adams. His most recent position at Swindon he built a good team (at this level) and was damn unlucky not to get promoted. Then he had his best players sold.

Who would you choose Brownie? Keith Hill who has a contract somewhere else and just turned down a team in a higher division? Pembo? A manager with little or no experience? A manager who did little or nothing with Barnsley and Rotherham? Have you not realised that we are shit??! We have just been relegated and are in the third tier. We have no money, a wank squad and things look bleak. Sleeping giant maybe, but the new manager has a massive job to do.

Come off it. This is about Wilson being ex Wednesday. This is what has produced this reaction. This protest is ill timed and pathetic. If you were protesting against McCabe's poor decisions over a long period of time then I would be sympathetic (as would many others). But welcoming our new manager with a protest saying 'we don't want you you pig', 'you (alledgedly) said bad things about us once' is just sad.

Go on then Olle, please explain why Wilson's managerial record is no worse than Micky Adams?

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Go on then Olle, please explain why Wilson's managerial record is no worse than Micky Adams?

Without looking at their records their respective profiles are very similar to me. Apart from the obvious differing styles of play I find Wilson's appointment very much similar to that of Adams' - sideways step from that point of view but whatever.

 

[Grecian2000]

If his greatest achievement is getting Barnsley up to the top flight (i.e. THEIR greatest achievent also), then why aren't they looking at him to repeat that when they too are managerless?

Is the answer "He's an ex pig" or "he isn't up to it anymore and we are looking at the likes of Keith Hill"?

There are plenty of people who are against the appointment on grounds other than being a pig whether some people believe (or even understand) that as an option.

 

[mekkyblade]

The club already has tainted it's reputation with 5 managers in 9 months, it's not fans who are fed up that make us embrassing.

The protest for me are against the board, I'm sorry if that rubs an ilk with you and others buit I feel like I've come to the end of my thether, I feel I need to voice my opinion, so I will, don't knock me for my difference of view, it's how I want to express my anger and disillusion, we all have our own ways of doing things. I'll deal with it how I want, that's the beuty of having a difference of opinion.

Absof##kinglutely!!!

 

[TommyDazzler]

This is bringing back similar feelings as to when we were relegated from the Premiership and decided to get Robson in. Back then we needed manager that would come in and give the club an immediate lift, to unite the fans to make a push to gain promotion at the first attempt, very similar to the situation now.
We are left asking the same questions that we did back then... why on earth do we want him?????
People then went on to say things like "it could be a good appointment", "his record isn't that bad", "has achieved promotion before" and try to justify the appointment, the same as now. Look what happened then. I have the same sort of initial reaction about this appointment, as I did to Robson. Its the wrong appointment but I wouldn't want anything more than to be proven wrong.