A New Season Dawns

[Bert]

Season number 46 for Bert has set him thinking about the highs and lows of following his home town club, funny moments, happy times, joy, despair and all the shades in between..
Off the pitch incidents feature highly in Bert's recollections.
Here's one for starters which is etched in the Bert memory.....

Venue: Highbury
Match: F.A. Cup
Incident: Cheating bastards Kanu and Overmars combine to "score" despicable goal.
Scene: The queue for the Tube after the match outside the ground.

Bert and 5,000 very angry Blades fans outside the ground trying to get on the Tube to get home, massive queue, all supporters mixed up, Blades and Arses jostling and pushing each other around. Tinderbox atmosphere, one wrong word and the whole place would have erupted, Bert has never been in an angrier crowd. The queue finally forms and people wait in silence to get on the train...suddenly half a dozen Arsenal fans push in to the front, nobody says a word until.....a woman shouts out with an accent straight off the Manor Estate "Get t'back of t'queue, tha bastards, tha's cheated all ready once today". They went back, in record speed.

 

[Northyorksblade]

We went straight out afterwards, then on to a show and didn't know till the following morning that Wenger had asked for the match to be replayed.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Where did the myth originate that people from Yorkshire somehow put Ts before intermittent words?

 

[wardonia_blade]

My 49th season. I also have Arsenal memories.

My first match was at Highbury. My 10th birthday present. Blades scored in first minute. Downhill ever since. 5-1 down at half time. Lost 6-2.

I have seen United score 0,1,2,3,4,5 past Arsenal.
I have seen Aresenal score 0,1,2,3,4,5,6 past United.

I will close. however, on the Nade / Jagielka game. Nothing finer than Bramall Lane on a night / evening game. Lets have some of it tomorrow.

 

[mattbianco1]

Where did the myth originate that people from Yorkshire somehow put Ts before intermittent words?

Have you ever met somebody from Barnsley?

Edit: just seen your location. That's the reason you don't notice it

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Have you ever met somebody from Barnsley?

Edit: just seen your location. That's the reason you don't notice it

I haven't noticed it because people just don't talk like that. Unless you can give an example?

 

[Silent Blade]

My 49th season. I also have Arsenal memories.

My first match was at Highbury. My 10th birthday present. Blades scored in first minute. Downhill ever since. 5-1 down at half time. Lost 6-2.

4-1 down at half time

 

[Balham]

I haven't noticed it because people just don't talk like that. Unless you can give an example?

They do. The t' prefix does not include a glottal stop which is where most Southerners fail when they try and put on a Northern/Yorkshire accent. In addition, it's not before "intermittent words", it's a contraction of either "to" or "the".

I would wager a considerable sum that the lady in Bert's story did not say "I say, old bean, would you mind most awfully moving to the back of the queue as you rascals have cheated once already today!". It would have been exactly as he's told it.

 

[mattbianco1]

I haven't noticed it because people just don't talk like that. Unless you can give an example?

For example. We don't say "are we going down to the pub?"

We say "are we goin' down't pub"

There's your example

 

[Darren]

For example. We don't say "are we going down to the pub?"

We say "are we goin' down't pub"

There's your example

Balham Blade is right though that when non-Yorkshire people try to do a Yorkshire accent they generally overemphaise the "t'". In your example it sounds very like "are we goin down pub". The "t" is barely there.

I remember never saying "the" as a child and was completely unconscious that other people did. Even now, I feel it as an affectation when I say "the".

 

[JJ Sefton]

My 25th season starts tonight.

 

[oldblade]

We went straight out afterwards, then on to a show and didn't know till the following morning that Wenger had asked for the match to be replayed.

Whilst not trying to belittle what Wenger did, the replayed match didn't really make up for what happened. As Steve Bruce later pointed out, we were close to the end of the game and a draw would have meant Arsenal would have had to travel to Bramall Lane for a midweek evening replay. They would not have fancied that. However, what actually happened was that Arsenal retained home advantage. The likelihood of us doing as well as in the first match was pretty small.

 

[mattbianco1]

Balham Blade is right though that when non-Yorkshire people try to do a Yorkshire accent they generally overemphaise the "t'". In your example it sounds very like "are we goin down pub". The "t" is barely there.

I remember never saying "the" as a child and was completely unconscious that other people did. Even now, I feel it as an affectation when I say "the".

Yeah, it's difficult to write it down. But if you think about it hard and pull our accent down to it's bare bones then we actually do just put a " 't " at the end or start of the words.

The missus' Granddad (R.I.P) actually did speak as written above - "who's parked that bleedin' caar thee-er, ow'm I menna get round't tawttin thing"

 

[mattbianco1]

A Yorkshiremans dog dies and as it was a favourite pet he decides to have a gold statue made by a jeweller to remember the dog by.

Yorkshireman: "Can tha mek us a gold statue o't dog?"

Jeweller: "Do you want it 18 carat?"

Yorkshireman: "No I want it chewin' a bone yer daft bugger!

 

[mattbianco1]

Yorkshire man takes his cat to the vet.

Yorkshireman: "Ayup, lad, I need to talk to thee about me cat."

Vet: "Is it a tom?"

Yorkshireman: "Nay, I've bro't it with us."

 

[dublin 10 blade]

43rd season for me , what a week-end so far , went to Bats for lashes last night { Blur headlined bot blaa } , what a voice she has got , Blades on box tonight , will it be a german or polish beer tonight ,mmm , go German , Erdinger it is so , Bank holiday w-end YIPPEE , bollox boss has asked me to work sat / monday , double time mind. COYRAWW .

 

[IOM Blade]

First season i can really remember is 92-93, so that would make this my 21st season.

The list of ultimate success or heartache during that time is rather depressing:

92-93 Semi Final Heartache - Survival success
93-94 Relegation Heartache
96-97 Play off Heartache
97-98 Semi Final Heartache Play off Heartache
02-03 Semi Final Heartache Semi Final Heartache Play off Heartache
05-06 Promotion Success
06-07 Relegation Heartache
08-09 Play off Heartache
2010-2011 Relegation Heartache
2011-2012 Play off Heartache
2012-2013 Play off Heartache

2 success' compared with 13 ultimate disappointments, but what a ride eh lads!

 

[Oreyt]

Bernard Manning does an excellent joke involving being on holiday, a Yorkshire couple next door, an equiry as to the possibility of borrowing some gravy granules and the punchline '' ''HASTA BISTO?'' - f*ck off you Spanish c*nt''.

 

[blade too long]

in yorkshire , Wednesday means at what hour does the sun rise

 

[blade too long]

internet, (yorkshire derivative) landing a carp or bream

 

[Oreyt]

For example. We don't say "are we going down to the pub?"

We say "are we goin' down't pub"

There's your example

The thing is, We equally don't say "downt'' with the hard T. Closer to "dahn''. So it dunt mek a lo-ruh sense.

 

[mattbianco1]

The thing is, We equally don't say "downt'' with the hard T. Closer to "dahn''. So it dunt mek a lo-ruh sense.

It's more Barnsley the emphasis on the "T".

Sheffield folk are more likely to miss words out as you say above

 

[Darren]

It's more Barnsley the emphasis on the "T".

Sheffield folk are more likely to miss words out as you say above

There is definitely a slight "t" sound between the "down" and "pub". In Sheffieldish, the "the" has almost been swallowed, but not quite. As you say, in other areas of the north the "T" is emphasised far more.

 

[mattbianco1]

First season i can really remember is 92-93, so that would make this my 21st season.

The list of ultimate success or heartache during that time is rather depressing:

92-93 Semi Final Heartache - Survival success
93-94 Relegation Heartache
96-97 Play off Heartache
97-98 Semi Final Heartache Play off Heartache
02-03 Semi Final Heartache Semi Final Heartache Play off Heartache
05-06 Promotion Success
06-07 Relegation Heartache
08-09 Play off Heartache
2010-2011 Relegation Heartache
2011-2012 Play off Heartache
2012-2013 Play off Heartache

2 success' compared with 13 ultimate disappointments, but what a ride eh lads!

What about this?

92-93 - Finished lower than Wednesday - Heartache
93-93 - Finished lower than Wednesday - Heartache
94-95 - Finished lower than Wednesday - Heartache
95-96 - Finished lower than Wednesday - Heartache
96-97 - Finished lower than Wednesday - Heartache
97-98 - Finished lower than Wednesday - Heartache
98-99 - Finished lower than Wednesday - Heartache
99-00 - Finished lower than Wednesday - Heartache
00-01 - Finished higher than Wednesday - Success
01-02 - Finished higher than Wednesday - Success
02-03 - Finished higher than Wednesday - Success
03-04 - Finished higher than Wednesday - Success
04-05 - Finished higher than Wednesday - Success
05-06 - Finished higher than Wednesday - Success
06-07 - Finished higher than Wednesday - Success
07-08 - Finished higher than Wednesday - Success
08-09 - Finished higher than Wednesday - Success
09-10 - Finished higher than Wednesday - Success
10-11 - Finished higher than Wednesday - Success
11-12 - Finished lower than Wednesday - Heartache
12-13 - Finished lower than Wednesday - Heartache

So over your lifetime, we have been more successful than Wednesday !!

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

It's more Barnsley the emphasis on the "T".

Sheffield folk are more likely to miss words out as you say above

Not true in my experience. We miss out words a lot too.

For example "Put it in the fridge" would simply become "Purrit in fridge".

Nobody would ever say "Purrit in t fridge".

 

[Darren]

I have supported United since 1973-74. A realistic ambition at the start of the season is suggested and then a success of Failure indicated . What I mean by a realistic ambition is an outcome that would have, at the start of the season, thought to have been a reasoanbley good acheivement given what was know at the tim, but not wildly optimistic:

73-4 D1 Top ten finish F
74-5 D1 top ten finish S
75-6 D1 top ten finish F
76-7 D2 promotion F
77-8 D2 challenge for promotion F
78-9 D2 challenge for promotion F
79-80 D3 promotion F
80-81 D3 promotion F
81-2 D4 promotion S
82-3 D3 promotion F
83-4 D3 promotion S
84-5 D2 stay up S
85-6 D2 top ten finish S
86-7 D2 top ten finish S
87-8 D2 top ten finish F
88-9 D3 promotion S
89-90 D2 mid table conslidation S
90-91 D1 avoid relegation S
91-92 D1 avoid relegation S
92-3 PL mid table consolidation F
93-4 PL avoid relegation F
94-5 D1 play offs F
95-6 D1 mid table consolidation S
96-7 D1 play offs S
97-8 D1 promotion F
98-9 D1 play offs F
99-00 D1 mid table consolidation F
00-01 D1 mid table consolidation S
01-02 D1 challenge for the play offs F
02-03 D1 mid table consoidation S
03-04 D1 Play offs F
04-05 FLC play offs F
05-06 FLC play offs S
06-07 PL stay up F
07-08 FLC promotion F
08-08 FLC play offs S
09-10 FLC play offs F
10-11 FLC challenge for play offs F
11-12 L1 promotion F
12-13 L1 promotion F

So I make 24 seasons of failure and 16 of success. Obviously, its all very subjective...

 

[Darren]

Not true in my experience. We miss out words a lot too.

For example "Put it in the fridge" would simply become "Purrit in fridge".

Nobody would ever say "Purrit in t fridge".

I maintain there is still a slight "t" sound at end of the "in".

Try saying "purrit in(t) fridge" then "puss in boots". There is a difference.

 

[blade too long]

I get pulled up in manchester garage for" have yer gorrany cowd watter ," apparently
can take the lad out of the manor , but,,,,

 

[ghandi]

43rd season for me , what a week-end so far , went to Bats for lashes last night { Blur headlined bot blaa } , what a voice she has got , Blades on box tonight , will it be a german or polish beer tonight ,mmm , go German , Erdinger it is so , Bank holiday w-end YIPPEE , bollox boss has asked me to work sat / monday , double time mind. COYRAWW .

Straight after the game; to celebrate being top of the league, you should head off to Bojos 35 until it shuts about 0600 on BHs ( or did Last All Saints BH) then straight into work.