76% possesion

[Working Class Hero]

Loads of possession but going nowhere is very 2010. The new prehistoric tactics.

 

[BushBlade]

A significant proportion of that possession must have been in the penalty area following Ramsdale's goal-taps. The number of goals teams ship from fannying around like that is already very high but we are well qualified to contribute to that sorry self-inflicted pain. It's an interesting study to note how often teams manage to get to the halfway line before losing possession. Try it for yourselves folks; it ain't very often! It will go down in football history as one of the daftest tactics ever adopted, and the sooner we learn the lesson the better. Meanwhile.........

It’s been something that annoys me for years. Piss about knocking it around in your own half as the opposition start pushing you back, pass it back to the keeper as soon as you’re pressed, keeper launches it, lose possession. It’s not just us, it’s been lots of teams that do it.
If you can’t beat the press, you can’t play out from the back. That’s why the top teams pay big money for defenders and midfielders who can play out from the back when pressed. It’s the basics. If you can’t play out from the back, find a way to get the ball quickly into the opponents’ half and play from there, do your own press from the front, engage them higher up the pitch but don’t knock it around whilst the opposition defenders are getting set into their banks of four and then rely on the keeper to launch it because they’re too well drilled to be beaten like that.

 

[Frank the tank]

Thought the players looked scared to make mistakes, resulting in picking the safe option almost every time. Birmingham pressed us well high up the pitch and sometimes we lacked the composure/vision to spot a teammate in a good position, but players also failed to find pockets of space and show for the ball. Couple of examples:

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* Osborn runs forward on the ball, we have got past their two strikers and drawn their RCM to close down. There are forward runs, Brum are having to back off. Norwood is in a good position to get on the ball and advance with it, but just stays deep/hides (doesn't make the suggested run shown by the red arrow. Osborn stops and passes it backwards to Robinson. Very typical first half situation.

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* Another situation showing Birmingham pressing the man on the ball. There is space behind their midfield, but neither Baldock or Burke are showing for the ball (red arrows), so the advanced pass (yellow line) isn't played. Instead Norwood chips it out wide to Osborn. Nice pass, but Osborn is closed down and ends up losing it, trying to make something happen in the wrong situation.

Regarding our playing style, I think the yellow line passes and the red arrow movement may be things that SJ wants to happen, and to be fair to the players, they haven't had much time to really work on this. When they couldn't find good passing moves they ended up passing sideways and backwards.

I thought the same watching Saturday night ,there wee plenty of easy passes forward on but the players just seem so conditioned to do a lundstram that I think they need taking out of the team for their own sake

 

[guancheblade]

Yup, the action areas say it all:

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76% possession, yet the ball was in our third more than theirs. We need to play higher up with BO and/or GB covering with their pace

And 30% of that 76% were passes back to Ramsdale

 

[Silent Blade]

Does the 76% possession include the time the ball spent in the air from our endless hoofball towards the touchlines in Brums half!!???

Endless hoofball?

 

[jono_t2000]

70%+ possession tonight, highest of all cup fixtures today.

This follows on from also having highest possession of all championship games on weekend.

Yet only one goal scored in 180 minutes.

On the right track or should be concerned? You decide.

 

[BigBed]

70%+ possession tonight, highest of all cup fixtures today.

This follows on from also having highest possession of all championship games on weekend.

Yet only one goal scored in 180 minutes.

On the right track or should be concerned? You decide.

Just need strikers that can score, not just cost millions!

 

[Freethinker]

70%+ possession tonight, highest of all cup fixtures today.

This follows on from also having highest possession of all championship games on weekend.

Yet only one goal scored in 180 minutes.

On the right track or should be concerned? You decide.

Concerning 4 shots on target against Carlisle shooting practice required I think

 

[Champagneblade]

Is possession % now the new attendance figure?

 

[Dronfield Blade]

Just need strikers that can score, not just cost millions!

Strikers need service. Fleck and Norwood creating nothing on Saturday.

 

[Grizzly blade]

It’s bloody stupid argument, I’d rather have the ball than not, and it’s about more than just having the ball.
If we pass it about in possession and opponents dont run to close down and tackle then we walk it in, so more possession means teams are chasing it more.
But we need to not just look at the stat in general, it should be split into possession in the final third, if we can keep the ball in the final third where space is tightest then we will be creating chances.

But I suspect it’s vast majority of possession in our own half. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was 70% of the 76 was in our own half.

 

[BigBed]

Strikers need service. Fleck and Norwood creating nothing on Saturday.

Very true, but Fleck was playing on the right??

 

[BigBed]

Is possession % now the new attendance figure?

Does % count if a cat has the ball!??

 

[billyblademan]

What possession %age did Leicester have when they won the league in 2016?

 

[McGoaldrick]

Once the players build a bit of confidence hopefully we’ll convert the possession to goals. Wouldn’t worry yet, just getting started

 

[Gerritforud]

We need to pass it abart a bit then.....