30/08/08 - Cardiff City Match Thread
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happyhippy
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We had much more momentum though when he came on. Agreed about his shocking delivery, but at least we were going forward. I'd rather (if we have to) have players moppoing up in and around their box, than on the halfway line.
Agreed.
On those sorts of lines, I'd also like to thank the superior sets of numpties around us who could do with a damn good slap. Bearing in mind that we couldn't see the Cardiff player who was receiving treatment from where we were, barracking Ugo whilst he was receiving treatment was really constructive. That was just one instance of numptiness. There were countless others.
Thanks for all the 'boos' at the end, too. Please don't come again.
shorehamview
Pink Sambuca drinking World Champion.
It's all well and good offering tickets for certain games for a tenner, but it attracts a whole spectrum of people.
One sort is typified by Jonny - he came because it was cheap and he's got other financial commitments. (Regardless of the fact that we took the piss a bit yesterday at least he's got the balls to have a go at racing, and it's not cheap.) Other folk might have big bills of another kind, so a ten quid ticket helps them too.
Then there are the "floating voters", people who aren't Blades but simply came to watch a game of football at a cheap price, and just might come back at full price.
Then there's the dickheads. They only came because it's cheap, and otherwise they'd be happy spending their dole money on glue and cheap nylon sportswear and fake Burberry caps. The fuckwits who throw stuff at the opposition fans, and jeer and taunt them in the street. The sort who think they are "BBC" because they tried to hit a couple of Welsh kids in Cardiff shirts. The ones who reckon they are hard as nails because they abuse the away fans from a position of safety behind a deep line of police. The sort of small-minded cretin who wouldn't dream of a trip away on a wet and cold tuesday, and who wouldn't have a season ticket if they were given one free. The kind of pillock who is a big tough guy, unless they are on their own, in which case they'd wet their pants if you stared at them.
As Linz said, we don't need their tenners, and if it means a smaller crowd then that's fine with me.
"Then there's the dickheads. They only came because it's cheap, and otherwise they'd be happy spending their dole money on glue and cheap nylon sportswear and fake Burberry caps"
there was a group of these mongrels near me on the kop, constantly singing "engerland" and shouting "welsh this that and everything else".
there was a group of these mongrels near me on the kop, constantly singing "engerland" and shouting "welsh this that and everything else".
constantly hearing that down my endsGangway G kop?
it was constantly this bald bloke who was blindo, would not shut up embarrassing himself, then his mankey looking chums joined in. giving it all the hand gestures to a few thousand people who were 200 metres away!
it was constantly this bald bloke who was blindo, would not shut up embarrassing himself, then his mankey looking chums joined in. giving it all the hand gestures to a few thousand people who were 200 metres away!
stinkyblade
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oo i was gangway c kop right at the top, must have spread then
Seem to remeber your lass telling me something about that
happyhippy
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Half way between Gangways F and G, on row ZZ, is where I am.
Poor performance really, they were there for the taking, they came for a draw and we let them have it. I don't recall Kenny making a save.
Henderson seems to be harshly treated by refs, the amount of fouls given against him is unreal. True he should have scored the easy header, and I also believe it was a penalty. He does need to improve though.
Tonge reminds me of muller corners..... good thing bad thing scenario.... gets stuck in for a change, then ruins his good work. Sadly the workrate didn't progress to the second half.
MOTM was Speed. Bossed almost everything in midfield.
As for the tourble, it started quitely, then got bigger and bigger, people getting hit with batons, bottles and pints being thrown, coach windows smashed, chairs and stools being thrown, numerous arrests. The railway gates were smashed through as Cardiff fans tried getting to Blades.
Henderson seems to be harshly treated by refs, the amount of fouls given against him is unreal. True he should have scored the easy header, and I also believe it was a penalty. He does need to improve though.
Tonge reminds me of muller corners..... good thing bad thing scenario.... gets stuck in for a change, then ruins his good work. Sadly the workrate didn't progress to the second half.
MOTM was Speed. Bossed almost everything in midfield.
As for the tourble, it started quitely, then got bigger and bigger, people getting hit with batons, bottles and pints being thrown, coach windows smashed, chairs and stools being thrown, numerous arrests. The railway gates were smashed through as Cardiff fans tried getting to Blades.
On a further note, I thought I had BeightonBlade sat behind me today, all I heard all game from him was "come on boys, lets get some quality in" "we need a quality ball" "make this free kick quality" "come on lads, quality is needed"
Obviously I know it wasn't you fella
Obviously I know it wasn't you fella
Billyblade
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My take on Saturdays game against Cardiff:-
Kenny- unspectacular, but didn't have much to do.
Sun Jihai- first time I've seen him this season for various reasons but pleased to say the blokes got Premiership class written all over him. Great composure and distribution. Top signing.
Killa- Cool, calm and collected. New Jags.
Ugo- Good experienced performance and a bit of a threat in the other box.
Naysmith- Naysmith does as Naysmith does. Solid, no cock-ups.
Halford- The bloke looks reluctant to run, like a lazy kid whose dropped a bollock and been rollocked by the manager.Throw-ins are good though.
Tonge- Typical performance, just like his career threatened to do something and did FA.
Speed- Bossed the midfield, mopped up and made some decent passes especially towards the end.
Squinny- Always eager, plenty of running but no real QUALITY
Hendo- Replacement for Hulse?, same money, worse player. Should have buried header from Sharps cross. Cannot hold ball up. Should have been subbed.
Sharp- Decent early on but faded due to route one tactics.
It was a shame we went route one for the majority of the game because I think this was there for the taking. It wasn't working as their massive centre backs were mopping everything up. We looked more dangerous when Cotts came on because we attacked with width. His crosses were a bit wayward at times but we got round the back and with longer in the game could have caused them problems.
Its not a bad result and agree with the comments about the booing morons.
Great to see BT back and with another fortnight under his belt should defo start at Derby (hopefully with Sharp).
Up the Blades!
Kenny- unspectacular, but didn't have much to do.
Sun Jihai- first time I've seen him this season for various reasons but pleased to say the blokes got Premiership class written all over him. Great composure and distribution. Top signing.
Killa- Cool, calm and collected. New Jags.
Ugo- Good experienced performance and a bit of a threat in the other box.
Naysmith- Naysmith does as Naysmith does. Solid, no cock-ups.
Halford- The bloke looks reluctant to run, like a lazy kid whose dropped a bollock and been rollocked by the manager.Throw-ins are good though.
Tonge- Typical performance, just like his career threatened to do something and did FA.
Speed- Bossed the midfield, mopped up and made some decent passes especially towards the end.
Squinny- Always eager, plenty of running but no real QUALITY
Hendo- Replacement for Hulse?, same money, worse player. Should have buried header from Sharps cross. Cannot hold ball up. Should have been subbed.
Sharp- Decent early on but faded due to route one tactics.
It was a shame we went route one for the majority of the game because I think this was there for the taking. It wasn't working as their massive centre backs were mopping everything up. We looked more dangerous when Cotts came on because we attacked with width. His crosses were a bit wayward at times but we got round the back and with longer in the game could have caused them problems.
Its not a bad result and agree with the comments about the booing morons.
Great to see BT back and with another fortnight under his belt should defo start at Derby (hopefully with Sharp).
Up the Blades!
silverfox
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From the Cardiff fans...........
A CARDIFF City fan on a bus targeted by Sheffield United hooligans today spoke of his terror as bottles, glasses and two bar stools rained down on the vehicle.
Gareth Thomas, 49, organised a coach and 16-seater minibus to transport supporters from the Rhondda to the steel city for the Bluebirds’ 0-0 draw with the Blades on Saturday.
But as fans filed out of Bramall Lane back to their buses at 5pm, the atmosphere changed and United hooligans spotted a chance to pounce. Thugs drinking in a nearby pub began throwing missiles from the beer garden towards a parked coach with 50 City supporters on board, including six children and a woman.
A 6ft-wide window towards the back of the vehicle shattered, sending shards of glass flying through the air.
Mr Thomas, an aircraft engineer, said: “It started to get a bit tense as everyone came out and I could feel it was going to get naughty.
“The bus was full and we were getting ready to go. Suddenly there were glasses and bottles flying through the smashed window. We couldn’t believe what was going on.”
Mr Thomas, of Tonypandy, claimed that minutes before trouble flared he told a South Yorkshire policeman the bus should be moved because it was “a sitting duck” outside a pub popular with Blades fans. But he was told the Castell Coaches bus should stay and the police were in control of the situation.
Mr Thomas, who claimed he was threatened with arrest, added: “When the missiles started coming the policeman was saying, ‘Move the bus!’
“The police totally lost it. I went up to him later and said that if he had listened to me in the first place, this would never have happened. It was absolute chaos.”
Terrified fans tried to flee the stranded coach as missiles rained down.
Mr Thomas said five fans suffered cuts and bruises, with two needing treatment at the Royal Glamorgan Hospital, Llantrisant, when they returned to South Wales at midnight aboard a replacement bus.
The most badly hurt was blood-soaked Lee Murphy, 27, from Tonyrefail. Mr Thomas added: “Lee had four stitches in his head and another fan had part of his head glued.”
The bill to replace the window is £1,300, with Castell Coaches – which Mr Thomas praised for its care and concern in taking victims to hospital – responsible for a £1,000 excess. Owner Alan Morris said: “It’s a super high deck coach so it towers over other coaches and the police went and stuck it outside a pub full of Sheffield United fans, which is stupid.
“This is a huge inconvenience for us. That coach was due to go to Weston-super-Mare and Brean today.”
South Yorkshire Police are responsible for policing City’s first three away league games this season – against Doncaster last month, the United match four days ago, and the clash with Barnsley at Oakwell two weeks tonight.
Three City fans have been bailed to appear on Friday at Sheffield Magistrates’ Court, two charged with public order offences and one with criminal damage. A fourth has been bailed pending inquiries over suspected public order offences.
Police, understood to be studying video footage, say more arrests are expected.
A force spokeswoman said: “Police are investigating reports that bottles were thrown at a coach carrying Cardiff City supporters.
“There have been no reports of injuries to either police officers or fans at this stage.” Anyone wanting to report details can call 0114 220 2020.
Sensiblade
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No mention of the fact that when they were done at the Railway, they headed for the Lion and only a coulpe of Police horse's stopped it all going up there too.
To be fair, this was a different set of group of fans to the ones at the railway. Which shows the velocity of numbers involved from Cardiffs end.
RaWW
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me thinks you should know facts before shouting your mouth out, how ironic that you are having a go at people who abuse away fans whilst hiding behind police when you're hiding behind a keyboard mouthing off about this and that, and that if you stared at one of them on his own he'd wet his pants at you. PMSL
Did you know (and I'm not sticking up for violence in any way) but most of the hardcore supporters are these types of fans, these are the people who go home and away, will go to a shitty place on a wet Tuesday night.
You really don't know your facts, and if you like I'll introduce you to just one of these lads and lets see what happens when you and him are on your own together.
Sorry if people see this the wrong way, but you just can't go shouting your mouth off like this idiot and expect no-one to get a bit annoyed.
Sensiblade
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Robbie was it you watching from the balcony on Bramall lane upto the Lion?
Here we go again!!! :blink:
From my window yes, we had a good view of it all.
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So much for calming down. I believe SV had a large proportion of his tongue rammed in his cheek and also hears a lot about what goes on, his brother being SYP and all.
Society as a whole believes that football violence is wrong, so why are you so surprised that amongst the majority of "normal" football fans, feelings are the same?
Violence and football have absolutely nothing to do with one another. I would suggest that most proper football fans who travel home, away and all over the place wouldn't want to run the risk of getting banned for life.
I'd like to meet your friend, and ask what he would think about the club he loves so much having further sanctions imposed on it due to trouble within the ground. Costing your club thousands of pounds unnecessarily doesn't make sense to me.
And can we keep the talk of going toe-to-toe off the forum please. It's like school kids arranging fights on a Friday afternoon... childish.
i can see why hes a bit ticked off though, its stereotyping to a degree, i think the fan sets are getting divided, you have the familys and adults, and then the teenagers who in all fairness are a majority of the people who make the atmosphere on the KOP, if it wasnt for these people our matches wouldnt have half of the atmosphere
im not on anyones side here, just adding my view to the discussion
im not on anyones side here, just adding my view to the discussion
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But being a teenager and chanting at a match doesn't necessarily mean you're going to go out, twat someone and throw things at them. A bit of a jump there I think.
Most of the people who do get caught for football violence aren't teenagers and are old enough to know better. Most of the people I know personally who have been done for football violence are also part-timers... although they have no choice now, seeing as there's an exclusion zone for them on match days.
SouthEssexBlade
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Right, enough is enough!!
It gets my goat, gets on my udders, grinds my grits and any other euphemism you care to insert, this insidious insinuation that any club that wants atmosphere and passion has to have the 'yoof' (I agree) and that also means the violent (I totally disagree). SV is spot on, I don't care if they attend all games home and away, watch every reserve fixture and all the academy matches right down to U10s, and make more noise than a fleet of 747s, if they like to ruck they can sod off.
I loathe with a passion the gentrification of the working class game that has happened by stealth, this creeping sanitisation and corruption from sport to corporate entertainment. But if that is what is required to get rid of these dickheads (yes, SV is right yet again) I'm even willing to tolerate that and sit with the Pimm's brigadeeek.
And if that annoys people, tough! If they want to spit the dummy, get on with it! And if they want to meet me and stand toe-to-toe, thanks you've proved my point more eloquently than I ever could and I'd welcome the opportunity to look down on you!!
It gets my goat, gets on my udders, grinds my grits and any other euphemism you care to insert, this insidious insinuation that any club that wants atmosphere and passion has to have the 'yoof' (I agree) and that also means the violent (I totally disagree). SV is spot on, I don't care if they attend all games home and away, watch every reserve fixture and all the academy matches right down to U10s, and make more noise than a fleet of 747s, if they like to ruck they can sod off.
I loathe with a passion the gentrification of the working class game that has happened by stealth, this creeping sanitisation and corruption from sport to corporate entertainment. But if that is what is required to get rid of these dickheads (yes, SV is right yet again) I'm even willing to tolerate that and sit with the Pimm's brigade
eek. And if that annoys people, tough! If they want to spit the dummy, get on with it! And if they want to meet me and stand toe-to-toe, thanks you've proved my point more eloquently than I ever could and I'd welcome the opportunity to look down on you!!
i stood toe to toe with him in the pub against cardiff....... im THAT hard
real bad man is keenzy
shorehamview
Pink Sambuca drinking World Champion.
I do know my facts. What I referred to was the "fans" who like to start trouble. The Burberry apes.
The hardcore fans who travel everywhere aren't the same as the fools screaming abuse when protected by a wall of police.
Also I know several of the "old-school" BBC, so if you put me face-to-face with them we'd probably argue about whose round it was. Unless you think I'm going to be frightened by some idiot shouting in my face.
And how can I shout my mouth off and hide behind a keyboard at the same time?
I don't hide, you can see me outside the Lion before most home games. I'm the good-looking bloke stood with the weirdos.
A lot was tongue-in-cheek, but as Linz says I do hear quite a bit, what with one of my brothers being a Police Officer and my step-mother being a barrister for the Crown Prosecution Service.
I also firmly believe that anybody causing bother at a football match or anywhere else is a dickhead, and I don't really care if you think that makes me an idiot or not.
As far as going toe-to-toe with anybody, unless it's Christa Ackroyd then count me out. I'm certainly not afraid of anybody, but I really think that violence is the last resort of the truly stupid.
And if I'm an idiot, shouting my mouth off, and hiding behind my keyboard, then fine. If that means that I'm the sort of person who thinks football violence is perpetrated by fuckwits, then yes, I'm an idiot. It'd need to be a bloody big keyboard to hide me behind though.
RaWW
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So why are you mouthing off about them then? The old school generation are far worse than the hooligans of today.
Why say that they'd shit themselves if you stared at them?
You go on about not being into violence, but you sound like your having a good pop to me.
The rest of what has been put I couldn't be arsed to read, It was so boring I fell asleep.
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