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BigBed said:
To get service he's needs to get into space instead of just fucking staring into it!
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The problem is that by the time the ball is released to him the space has been closed down, he needs it early
 
We are carrying too many players not contributing enough. Ramsdale Robinson Ampidou Burke today Brewster so far.
If we were a car we'd have to go in the workshop to see why we only get neutral or reverse just now

Thank God 2020 is over
 
Yes the midfield is poor which limits opportunities and getting on the ball. But even allowing for those he still hasn't had any impact. He has potential but we haven't seen it in any way shape or form. He is taking time to adjust and this is made worse by the fact the team as a whole aren't playing well. I hope it doesn't become a confidence thing or we have wasted money.
 
It’s the old hindsight thing again.

I remember loads of Blades saying there’s no way we’ll buy Brewster...we aren’t ambitious enough to buy one of the hottest talents in the country.
My reply was he’s a player for the future...not the here and now....so don’t expect much this season.

If we could sell him now for 20 million....I reckon loads of Blades would accept
but the same fans would be blaming the club for selling cheap when he becomes worth 70 million in a few years.

The policy regards buying Brewster, McBurnie and Berge is they are young...so will retain their value.
Brewster and McBurnie are proven top performers at Championship level.
 
Wilder has also said in recent interviews all three were the future of Sheffield united so if that’s to be believed non of them are going anywhere, it makes you wonder why people are speculating on any of them being sold in January when the manager himself has said their going nowhere and are all tied in on very long contracts....
 
Sheffsteel said:
It’s the old hindsight thing again.

I remember loads of Blades saying there’s no way we’ll buy Brewster...we aren’t ambitious enough to buy one of the hottest talents in the country.
My reply was he’s a player for the future...not the here and now....so don’t expect much this season.

If we could sell him now for 20 million....I reckon loads of Blades would accept
but the same fans would be blaming the club for selling cheap when he becomes worth 70 million in a few years.

The policy regards buying Brewster, McBurnie and Berge is they are young...so will retain their value.
Brewster and McBurnie are proven top performers at Championship level.
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I think most understood that he was one for the future, and expectations should be limited.

But by god, he’s been shite. We had a right to hope for more.

We wouldn’t get £10m now his shortcomings have been exposed.
 
Sheffsteel said:
It’s the old hindsight thing again.

I remember loads of Blades saying there’s no way we’ll buy Brewster...we aren’t ambitious enough to buy one of the hottest talents in the country.
My reply was he’s a player for the future...not the here and now....so don’t expect much this season.

If we could sell him now for 20 million....I reckon loads of Blades would accept
but the same fans would be blaming the club for selling cheap when he becomes worth 70 million in a few years.

The policy regards buying Brewster, McBurnie and Berge is they are young...so will retain their value.
Brewster and McBurnie are proven top performers at Championship level.
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Most fans views are based on hindsight, if we were doing well they would be praising the signings but unfortunately we are not doing to good, now they are saying Wilder has spunked the money.

I agree that with every transfer not just Brewster most fans were welcoming with the incoming players.
 

Swinton Blade said:
Most fans views are based on hindsight, if we were doing well they would be praising the signings but unfortunately we are not doing to good, now they are saying Wilder has spunked the money.

I agree that with every transfer not just Brewster most fans were welcoming with the incoming players.
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There’s truth in that. But at the same time, poor signings and poor performance are directly linked. That’s not hindsight.
 
pesch the mini genius said:
Sorry fair point

Just trying to compare in terms of biggest waste of money, although through no fault of ebrells
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Ebbrell gave us a reasonable 45 minutes for just £1m. I'd be delighted if we got 10 reasonable games out of Brewster at this point.
 
I’m not sure what people actually want from Brewster. I’ve never really seen him play before but everything i read about him prior to signing was that he was a player with huge potential and someone who came alive in the box (like a Billy, a Gary Lineker type). Nothing I read suggested that he was the type of player who ran around all the time, chasing back, helping midfield etc.

Since he’s been here we’ve seen a few moments of genuinely ability with his through balls to others and some good positional runs, but to my reckoning he’s had one proper chance (wba away- which he fluffed and mousset missed the sitter from the rebound). I can’t recall others, although I may be wrong.

When I read / hear people at work criticising him for not doing enough, running about, poor body language I’m unsure as to what people want from him and what they thought we were signing. Had similar debates when Beattie first came..you want him in the box scoring goals, not chasing full backs etc!

Brewster is suffering from a team that isn’t creating, isn’t playing high up the pitch and can’t hold onto the ball.

Feel like the kid deserves some patience
 
The least you expect for 20m + is to run the channels, take his marker deep then drop short looking for the ball or pick up the ball and run at the defence. He does none of that, he hangs around the halfway line hoping the ball will come to him.

Now whether that's due to a lack of desire or poor coaching I dont know but when you compare his movement to Watkins it's night and day.
 
alcoblade said:
I think most understood that he was one for the future, and expectations should be limited.

But by god, he’s been shite. We had a right to hope for more.

We wouldn’t get £10m now his shortcomings have been exposed.
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You said exactly the same with Evans when he first came in and was playing in a struggling side. As with Brewster the ability is clearly there but as was said by some when he signed he’ll struggle to hit the ground running and it should be looked at 2-3 years in to evaluate if it’s a good deal.
Brewster, McBurnie, Ramsdale and if he’s still here Berge, will be spine of the side which looks to bring us back stronger to the Premier League and they will all be very top players should we go down as well as being under 25 years old. The gamble in these young players to keep us up may fail, but the long game was always that they they are a level above the championship so we’ll have a much better chance of coming straight back with them. All without busting our wage structure and risking the long term future of the club and if we do get promoted we’ll be much stronger than we are now.
Of course if Wilder turns it around and we manage to stay up then we stay seasons ahead of plan.
 
FriethBlade said:
The least you expect for 20m + is to run the channels, take his marker deep then drop short looking for the ball or pick up the ball and run at the defence. He does none of that, he hangs around the halfway line hoping the ball will come to him.

Now whether that's due to a lack of desire or poor coaching I dont know but when you compare his movement to Watkins it's night and day.
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Presumably Watkins can move and make runs in the knowledge he may get something from his midfield; Grealish and Barkley in particular. Brewster gets nothing. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Brewster has done brilliantly, but it's unfair to compare him to Watkins when the confidence levels and systems of the team's they're currently playing in are so hugely different.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
You said exactly the same with Evans when he first came in and was playing in a struggling side. As with Brewster the ability is clearly there but as was said by some when he signed he’ll struggle to hit the ground running and it should be looked at 2-3 years in to evaluate if it’s a good deal.
Brewster, McBurnie, Ramsdale and if he’s still here Berge, will be spine of the side which looks to bring us back stronger to the Premier League and they will all be very top players should we go down as well as being under 25 years old. The gamble in these young players to keep us up may fail, but the long game was always that they they are a level above the championship so we’ll have a much better chance of coming straight back with them. All without busting our wage structure and risking the long term future of the club and if we do get promoted we’ll be much stronger than we are now.
Of course if Wilder turns it around and we manage to stay up then we stay seasons ahead of plan.
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I keep hearing that Brewster was "one for the future".

If so, that makes the signing as daft as the other signings this window. When that deal went through, we needed good players now, not in 2 to 3 years.

Alcoblade was exactly right about Ched Evans. He was a good League One player but a poor championship player. We seem to have fallen into the same trap again 10 years on.
 
PrestwichBlade said:
Presumably Watkins can move and make runs in the knowledge he may get something from his midfield; Grealish and Barkley in particular. Brewster gets nothing. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Brewster has done brilliantly, but it's unfair to compare him to Watkins when the confidence levels and systems of the team's they're currently playing in are so hugely different.
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Watkins is by far the better player but is not for us - he gets paid too much !
 
All this Brewster has got ability is based on what? The TV clips of a few goals at Swansea. Who has actually watched him play for 90 mins on a number of occasions before he came here?

I have not so would welcome those who did and what his attributes/abilities are.

I don't want to just knock him for knocking sake but my judgement of a player is normally based on what they do for my club. Everything else is kind of redundant. Matters not one jot to me if they were good before or after SUFC.

So far he has not had great service but even Burke, McGoldrick and McBurnie have shown far more appetite, work rate, hold up and goal threat/nuisance.

I've seen him contribute nothing. His touch is poor, he is slow, unathletic, poor in the air and not physical or mobile. He's had about 1 shot in 8 or 9 games.

He may come good but seen nothing from him so far at all. That is just being honest. Maybe others have seenbthings from him in a Blades shirt I have not.

He would be 5th choice in pecking order on current threat/contribution. I'm not sure why we are still starting him.
 
Revolution said:
I keep hearing that Brewster was "one for the future".

If so, that makes the signing as daft as the other signings this window. When that deal went through, we needed good players now, not in 2 to 3 years.

Alcoblade was exactly right about Ched Evans. He was a good League One player but a poor championship player. We seem to have fallen into the same trap again 10 years on.
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He didn’t say that though at the time, it was much the same as now and we’ll never know what Evans would have done in the Championship if he’d not fucked up our season, his career and potentially a few peoples lives including his own.
There were plenty saying Brewster wasn’t one for this season but as one who was very clear on this at the time, he’s better than a lot are saying here and again he’ll prove a lot wrong. At which point they’ll have moved onto someone else who they’ve over hyped and then attacked when he fails to meet that expectation.
There’s a reason we’ve given these young players longer than 3 year deals.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
You said exactly the same with Evans when he first came in and was playing in a struggling side. As with Brewster the ability is clearly there but as was said by some when he signed he’ll struggle to hit the ground running and it should be looked at 2-3 years in to evaluate if it’s a good deal.
Brewster, McBurnie, Ramsdale and if he’s still here Berge, will be spine of the side which looks to bring us back stronger to the Premier League and they will all be very top players should we go down as well as being under 25 years old. The gamble in these young players to keep us up may fail, but the long game was always that they they are a level above the championship so we’ll have a much better chance of coming straight back with them. All without busting our wage structure and risking the long term future of the club and if we do get promoted we’ll be much stronger than we are now.
Of course if Wilder turns it around and we manage to stay up then we stay seasons ahead of plan.
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I did say the same about Evans, and during that period he was totally shite.

I’m not making any case that Brewster will be shite in future - but he is now - and at £23m we had a right to expect more now, even if he’s a star later.

If we’d paid £2m I’d be disappointed with what we’ve seen so far. Wouldn’t you?
 
Deadbat said:
All this Brewster has got ability is based on what? The TV clips of a few goals at Swansea. Who has actually watched him play for 90 mins on a number of occasions before he came here?

I have not so would welcome those who did and what his attributes/abilities are.

I don't want to just knock him for knocking sake but my judgement of a player is normally based on what they do for my club. Everything else is kind of redundant. Matters not one jot to me if they were good before or after SUFC.

So far he has not had great service but even Burke, McGoldrick and McBurnie have shown far more appetite, work rate, hold up and goal threat/nuisance.

I've seen him contribute nothing. His touch is poor, he is slow, unathletic, poor in the air and not physical or mobile. He's had about 1 shot in 8 or 9 games.

He may come good but seen nothing from him so far at all. That is just being honest. Maybe others have seenbthings from him in a Blades shirt I have not.

He would be 5th choice in pecking order on current threat/contribution. I'm not sure why we are still starting him.
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My mate watched him a bit via a Swansea connection. He said before we’d signed him to not expect anything outside of the box. He’s a finisher, and nothing more.

To that end, he’s getting poor service. But also, given our situation, we’ve bought the wrong type of player.
 

Flatulent_Bob said:
He didn’t say that though at the time, it was much the same as now and we’ll never know what Evans would have done in the Championship if he’d not fucked up our season, his career and potentially a few peoples lives including his own.
There were plenty saying Brewster wasn’t one for this season but as one who was very clear on this at the time, he’s better than a lot are saying here and again he’ll prove a lot wrong. At which point they’ll have moved onto someone else who they’ve over hyped and then attacked when he fails to meet that expectation.
There’s a reason we’ve given these young players longer than 3 year deals.
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I’m not sure many would disagree (or more likely have an opinion) on the future qualities of Brewster.

Most things I read, and certainly my opinion, is based on the disappointment of what we’re getting now - which is shite.

I don’t think for a minute that anyone at the club expected so little at this point. If they did, heads should roll for making the signing.
 
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