Henderson’s Honesty

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To be called a paedo is disgusting for a young man plying his trade, Dean's having the last laugh now.
I attended both Leeds and the Pig away games and believe me they weren’t calling Deano a paedo they were chanting it with pure venom and vile and went on for the full 90 minutes . Said at the time if it had been racist , sexist or homaphobic the EFL , Sky , Talksport and the FA would have had a field day about it and rightly so. But Deano has to go through this alone.
Mmmmm, wonder why.
 
I attended both Leeds and the Pig away games and believe me they weren’t calling Deano a paedo they were chanting it with pure venom and vile and went on for the full 90 minutes . Said at the time if it had been racist , sexist or homaphobic the EFL , Sky , Talksport and the FA would have had a field day about it and rightly so. But Deano has to go through this alone.
Mmmmm, wonder why.
He isn't alone Alf, he's got at least 30k behind him, but I get you're saying mate.
 
What was he actually accused of?
He was accused of child sex abuse in a care home where he worked when he stopped playing and whilst taking his coaching badges. The charges against him were dropped.
It was at a time, late 1990s when others were under suspicion, and there were some who were found guilty,
 
I think it was actually

We are Leeds, we are vile so they got one part right at least
What I said at the time.

I couldn't believe that no action was taken.

I remember back in the we played away at Barnsley.

They had a fairly decent forward called David Curry. Lond dark hair, Ester Ranson teeth and a porn star moustach......

We sang for 90 minutes about how he was a gypsy and that he lost his caravan etc etc...... So let’s not take the moral high growd about how terrible any set of fans are about shouting racist or homophobic drivel,,,,,,,,,as we have done exactly the same.

I really don’t think Hendo is the type to let it bother him one bit.

To be honest there is no story here......
Still think there's no story here?
( this wasn't the only post intimating the same btw)

Completely unacceptable in a so called civilised society.
 
I'm surprised about Henderson's comments for two reasons:

1. I had thought he was a confident, extrovert lad who has always pushed himself forward into the spotlight before, during and after games. He has also wound up a good few opposition supporters in his time here and that has always puzzled me, the need to do that and add to the pressures on the field. even before he came to us there were stories of his behaviour with opposition fans.

2. He immediately invites more 'pressure' from the idiots and will get it. That's probably not the right thing to do from that perspective i.e. prssures on the field.

However, within the human debate and need to tackle the online abuse issue, the lad has been brave and supportive of others. Players are human beings, even the cocky and brash ones, in fact they are often the most vulnerable.

I felt a tinge of guilt that Henderson felt he had little support at the time and I am surprised if Wilder's United didn't help him through it more as a club.
 
I suspect that if he has received professional advice - then it would have included a public confession like this.
 
I'm surprised about Henderson's comments for two reasons:

1. I had thought he was a confident, extrovert lad who has always pushed himself forward into the spotlight before, during and after games. He has also wound up a good few opposition supporters in his time here and that has always puzzled me, the need to do that and add to the pressures on the field. even before he came to us there were stories of his behaviour with opposition fans.

2. He immediately invites more 'pressure' from the idiots and will get it. That's probably not the right thing to do from that perspective i.e. prssures on the field.

However, within the human debate and need to tackle the online abuse issue, the lad has been brave and supportive of others. Players are human beings, even the cocky and brash ones, in fact they are often the most vulnerable.

I felt a tinge of guilt that Henderson felt he had little support at the time and I am surprised if Wilder's United didn't help him through it more as a club.


Because the strongest usually hide things well till something tips them over the edge.

Poor lad has clearly suffered at the hands of these morons.
 
What you need to do with shite like that is realise it's not personal. It's not actually aimed at you. These people need a target. If it wasn't you, it'd be someone else.

But, as pretty much everyone who has experienced this says, they do take it personally - it's nearly impossible not to.

Before the internet these people would be bombarding their targets with deranged letters scribbled in crayon - they got a chance to vent, but you could just put their latest diatribe in the bin, and over all, with occasional exceptions, they couldn't do much harm.

Now the internet means they've got a platform, and for whatever reason they're getting a big reaction from their target and the audience.

So here we are, swimming in sewage.
This is completely wrong. It is personal and it is specifically aimed at the individual. It is impossible not to take it personally because it is personal.
Before the internet people weren't deluged with abusive mail - what evidence do you have for that claim? - which in any case wasn't viewable by the world and no print medium was available to people to publish such things.
The internet has opened a can of worms, I will agree with you on that much, and the law and the authorities are woefully behind the times, adding to people's ideas that they are allowed to post this sort of drivel and publicise it.
 
This is completely wrong. It is personal and it is specifically aimed at the individual. It is impossible not to take it personally because it is personal.

If these people weren't having a go at Henderson they'd be having a go at someone else. They just need to have a go at someone. He just happened to be in the firing line.

Don't take it personally. Sound advice but very hard to follow.

It becomes a bit easier to follow if, for instance, you go to their next game and the same people are giving dog's abuse to another opposition player for another "reason". Then you go to the next game, and the same people are giving the same abuse to a different player for a different "reason".
Then you go to the next game, and the same people are giving the same abuse to a different player for a different "reason"...
Ad nauseam, ad infinitum.

Before the internet people weren't deluged with abusive mail - what evidence do you have for that claim? - which in any case wasn't viewable by the world and no print medium was available to people to publish such things.

No idea how you managed to manufacture that out of what I wrote. But well done.
 
I have read about Hendo and my heart goes out to him, he's a chabbie and to get that level of filth thrown at admittedly by 2 sets of fans who are the dregs of creation must be soul destroying. He is right if it had been racist stuff at him the EFL and such would have been all over it, it's about time people realised racism is abhorrent but by the same token abuse of white people equally is if you cut us do we not bleed?

This sort of abuse needs stopping; attack all abuse not just racism it sends a poor message to young white players also you know. As said earlier it is indicative of society I remember years ago when Justin Fashanu bravely came out, I imagine he'd have got stick off fans but the people whom he needed support off (fellow players) but apparently they were as bad as anybody and the poor lad ended his life RIP.
 

If these people weren't having a go at Henderson they'd be having a go at someone else. They just need to have a go at someone. He just happened to be in the firing line.

Don't take it personally. Sound advice but very hard to follow.

It becomes a bit easier to follow if, for instance, you go to their next game and the same people are giving dog's abuse to another opposition player for another "reason". Then you go to the next game, and the same people are giving the same abuse to a different player for a different "reason".
Then you go to the next game, and the same people are giving the same abuse to a different player for a different "reason"...
Ad nauseam, ad infinitum.
It doesn't mean it isn't personal, just because they do it to other people. It isn't some kind of psychiatric illness, it's twats being nasty. And this was more than a dodgy chant, it was targeted social media posts.

No idea how you managed to manufacture that out of what I wrote. But well done.
Because you wrote this:
Before the internet these people would be bombarding their targets with deranged letters
 
It doesn't mean it isn't personal, just because they do it to other people. It isn't some kind of psychiatric illness, it's twats being nasty. And this was more than a dodgy chant, it was targeted social media posts.

Looks like we're using personal in different ways. You say potato.

IBecause you wrote this:

So, "By taking shite literally."
 
Looks like we're using personal in different ways. You say potato.



So, "By taking shite literally."
No, we're using personal in the same way. You claim it wasn't personal. I say it was.

And are you saying that you were writing a load of shite and I shouldn't have taken it literally?
 
If these people weren't having a go at Henderson they'd be having a go at someone else. They just need to have a go at someone. He just happened to be in the firing line.

Don't take it personally. Sound advice but very hard to follow.

It becomes a bit easier to follow if, for instance, you go to their next game and the same people are giving dog's abuse to another opposition player for another "reason". Then you go to the next game, and the same people are giving the same abuse to a different player for a different "reason".
Then you go to the next game, and the same people are giving the same abuse to a different player for a different "reason"...
Ad nauseam, ad infinitum.



No idea how you managed to manufacture that out of what I wrote. But well done.
Is that what you'd do if someone in the pub shouted 'paedo' at you? Keep popping back in and seeing it they shouted it at other people too?
Then they put a poster up saying you were?

Where people shout abuse, either on a terrace or on the internet makes no difference. They quickly track down people shouting racist abuse (rightly so), they can with this.

Social media providers need to step up too. If they were hit with hefty fines for publishing libel, they'd soon find a way to stop it.
 
Because the strongest usually hide things well till something tips them over the edge.

Poor lad has clearly suffered at the hands of these morons.

It probably did hurt but he's the type that thrives on adversity and wants to come back and shove 2 fingers up at the knockers and boy does he do that (he's even done that to Wilder).

We must sign this lad full time.
 
It probably did hurt but he's the type that thrives on adversity and wants to come back and shove 2 fingers up the knockers and boy does he do that (he's even done that to Wilder).

We must sign this lad full time.
It would be great to see him signed up properly, but I'm guessing the biggest block to that is his dream to play for the team he supports. Hopefully he will come to the conclusion that it isn't going to happen.
 
I just think that anyone who is in the public eye has to be extremely careful about what they put out there on social media. I think Henderson was very foolish to do what he did. Even if it was totally innocent he left himself wide open to malicious responses and he brought this on himself. That doesn’t excuse the vile responses he got. But really he shouldn’t be surprised. I don’t think that bringing it up again will be helpful to him. He’s just reminded these folks and they will be inspired to bring it up again.

He’d be better off just dismissing it and letting it go.
 
I just think that anyone who is in the public eye has to be extremely careful about what they put out there on social media. I think Henderson was very foolish to do what he did. Even if it was totally innocent he left himself wide open to malicious responses and he brought this on himself. That doesn’t excuse the vile responses he got. But really he shouldn’t be surprised. I don’t think that bringing it up again will be helpful to him. He’s just reminded these folks and they will be inspired to bring it up again.

He’d be better off just dismissing it and letting it go.
Respectfully, I have to disagree. If I remember correctly, this was because he posted a picture of himself without a top on or in some similar state of undress and one of his twitter followers was a 14 year old girl. Correct me if I've got that wrong and he did something less innocent.
The idea that he can't freely make innocent, harmless posts without a shit storm of false and damning accusations is simply wrong. People defend some of the insults being thrown around on social media as freedom of speech. What about his?
He should most definitely not just dismiss it and let it go. Why should he? Let's not forget that thousands of people, perhaps hundreds of thousands or even millions - especially young people - suffer from malicious online posts every day. Some, like him, will contemplate suicide and most won't have as much to live for as he does.
There's too much trivialising of what happened here.
 
I just think that anyone who is in the public eye has to be extremely careful about what they put out there on social media. I think Henderson was very foolish to do what he did. Even if it was totally innocent he left himself wide open to malicious responses and he brought this on himself. That doesn’t excuse the vile responses he got. But really he shouldn’t be surprised. I don’t think that bringing it up again will be helpful to him. He’s just reminded these folks and they will be inspired to bring it up again.

He’d be better off just dismissing it and letting it go.
Brought this on himself. Really?

Come on mate your better then that. For anyone to think that Henderson has even a tiny fraction of accountability for the malicious things written and chanted about him from brain dead morons is crazy
 
Brought this on himself. Really?

Come on mate your better then that. For anyone to think that Henderson has even a tiny fraction of accountability for the malicious things written and chanted about him from brain dead morons is crazy

I thought I made it clear that he did not deserve the vile and malicious things said about him. However, if you go online and post stuff to an underage girl, which could be interpreted as "grooming", then yes I'm afraid that does constitute "bringing it on himself" to me. He should never have gone anywhere near stuff like that in the first place. It's dynamite, even for someone not in the public eye. Put it this way, if he hadn't done that, would this have happened? The answer is no.
 
Respectfully, I have to disagree. If I remember correctly, this was because he posted a picture of himself without a top on or in some similar state of undress and one of his twitter followers was a 14 year old girl. Correct me if I've got that wrong and he did something less innocent.
The idea that he can't freely make innocent, harmless posts without a shit storm of false and damning accusations is simply wrong. People defend some of the insults being thrown around on social media as freedom of speech. What about his?
He should most definitely not just dismiss it and let it go. Why should he? Let's not forget that thousands of people, perhaps hundreds of thousands or even millions - especially young people - suffer from malicious online posts every day. Some, like him, will contemplate suicide and most won't have as much to live for as he does.
There's too much trivialising of what happened here.

What I understood is that there was some "exchange" of communications on social media with an underage girl, that was construed as potentially "grooming". If that's correct then I honestly cannot bring myself to have sympathy for him, because even if it was innocent enough, he should have had more sense and stayed a mile away from anything like that. If I've got that wrong then my remarks are not relevant and I take them back, but that's what I understood at the time.

I totally agree with you about the menace of social media and the terrible effect it can have on people's lives. When I was a kid, other kids got bullied in the school playground. Nowadays kids get bullied by anonymous trolls on social media. I don't think it's healthy. And I think there should be tougher laws that enable the outing of such trolls and severe punishment for the same.
 
What I understood is that there was some "exchange" of communications on social media with an underage girl, that was construed as potentially "grooming".

That wasn't the case and just reinforces the narrative.

He shared a 'story' on social media that was available to ALL his followers, a parent(?) misinterpreted it as a personal message to an underaged girl and instead of finding out the facts, went straight to social media.
 

I thought I made it clear that he did not deserve the vile and malicious things said about him. However, if you go online and post stuff to an underage girl, which could be interpreted as "grooming", then yes I'm afraid that does constitute "bringing it on himself" to me. He should never have gone anywhere near stuff like that in the first place. It's dynamite, even for someone not in the public eye. Put it this way, if he hadn't done that, would this have happened? The answer is no.
I don’t do twitter for very good reasons but as I understand it he did not post stuff to anyone on a 1-1 basis. If he’s brought this on himself then I better be careful when I’m laying on the beach this summer with my top off. If any young girls happen to see me then I’m obviously a sex pest and deserve to be abused at all levels. Right?
 

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