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Exactly. Ref needs to get to spec savers
 



I understand from someone at the club George Long has now approached JMac for advice on how to palm away crosses.
"Great technique" George was heard to have said
 
Some very harsh comments on here, even if it is utterly baffling.

But then I've done some unexplainable things at work myself like once putting my fingers in a socket on the huge photo-printing machine at Tesco to see if the power was on.

It was.
 
I like how George Long points at him and says something to ref. I can't lip read, but I imagine it was something along the lines of "Aww, ref, look who did it - it's not fair to punish all of us".
 
Darthblade said:
Do we even play "goalie wag" any more ???
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It's a bloody good question. I walk my dog around several fields where I would expect, 30/40/50 years ago, many an ad-hoc game would be played (jumpers for goalposts and all that), however, these days I NEVER see such games going on. I only ever see "organised" games with fully kitted (and sponsored) teams, screaming mentalists (or parents as they like to be called) and proper nets/refs.
I suspect football for fun (and hence "goalie wag") has been replaced for ever.
 
Funny because we won. If we lose that game and end all hope then what an absolute moron.
 
As I said at the time and elsewhere here, from my obscured view behind the net, he went to set his feet to jump and his back leg slipped - It's not too clear on the replay, but was obvious real-time... Whilst I have no explanation for his hand being so high, I can only assume it was a continuation of his arm swinging for momentum in the attempted jump or a split second reaction to appeal or just get something on the ball.
 
It looks extremely dodgy to me and is probably the best reason not to give him a new deal, especially as it's not the first time he's done something inexplicably stupid. I wanted him to get another year, not so sure now.
 
Yep, this is McEveley when people have been telling me he's on form and playing his best.

Whatever the reason for him doing this he's a liability who even on his better days is likely to cost you a goal or the match.

No idea what he has to do to get some people to say he's not good enough.
 



The reason I am/was in favour of keeping him if his left foot, his versatility and him being well suited to the LCB position in 3-5-2. But last night was a reminder of what he's capable of. If we could sign another left footed centre back I'd be 100% in favour of releasing him. Aaron Pierre at Wycombe could be an option there, and we were linked with him last August.
 
Watched it a couple of times and I can't really explain why Jay decides to play it with his arm.
I know he's done OK recently, but a lot of what he does seems a bit "last-ditch" to me.
 
Trouble with McEveley is that he's too rash in his decision making. He's the type of player that when he's goal side of his man, won't opt to show him to his weaker side or a tighter angle but will tend to just jump in immediately. It's far less effective as examples such as yesterday and the Man Utd game show. It really ought to be trained into him to prevent it or he'll end up costing the side in far more games, including ones that won't have the scoreline to excuse it.
 
For a penalty the handball has to be deliberate, that's the old rule and more recently it's handball if the hand is 'in an un-natural position' and gains an advantage.

McEveley did not deliberately handle that ball, he had what is called an 'involuntary reaction' after his back foot slipped beneath him.

However, his hand was in an ' unnatural position' when he handled the ball - penalty, no booking - was there a booking?

The ref could have been excused for not giving a penalty by the strict letter of the law but that would have been brave.
 
Woodwardfan said:
For a penalty the handball has to be deliberate, that's the old rule and more recently it's handball if the hand is 'in an un-natural position' and gains an advantage.

McEveley did not deliberately handle that ball, he had what is called an 'involuntary reaction' after his back foot slipped beneath him.

However, his hand was in an ' unnatural position' when he handled the ball - penalty, no booking - was there a booking?

The ref could have been excused for not giving a penalty by the strict letter of the law but that would have been brave.
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It would have been the bravest decision by any referee in the history of football I reckon. You're right of course ;)
 
Woodwardfan said:
For a penalty the handball has to be deliberate, that's the old rule and more recently it's handball if the hand is 'in an un-natural position' and gains an advantage.

McEveley did not deliberately handle that ball, he had what is called an 'involuntary reaction' after his back foot slipped beneath him.

However, his hand was in an ' unnatural position' when he handled the ball - penalty, no booking - was there a booking?

The ref could have been excused for not giving a penalty by the strict letter of the law but that would have been brave.
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If the ref had not given a penalty for that he would have been banned from reffing for 1800 years.
 
Woodwardfan said:
For a penalty the handball has to be deliberate, that's the old rule and more recently it's handball if the hand is 'in an un-natural position' and gains an advantage.

McEveley did not deliberately handle that ball, he had what is called an 'involuntary reaction' after his back foot slipped beneath him.

However, his hand was in an ' unnatural position' when he handled the ball - penalty, no booking - was there a booking?

The ref could have been excused for not giving a penalty by the strict letter of the law but that would have been brave.
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It looks odd that he fell forwards after handling it. It looks like he swept it away rather than the ball hit his hand.
 
Sean Thornton said:
Well that was an error of Rob **** Styles proportions. I remember the crowds amazement firstly at Fashanu and secondly at no penalty being awarded.

Did I say Rob Styles is a ****?
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I was behind that goal with the Wimbledon fans, couldnt believe what Fash did
 
William Henry Foulkes said:
Play badly.

He's been fine for weeks/months.
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If we ignore the calamities like this, he's been a world beater since we signed him.

It's baffling how our defence has been such a problem with quality players like him playing well for months.
 



Woodwardfan said:
For a penalty the handball has to be deliberate, that's the old rule and more recently it's handball if the hand is 'in an un-natural position' and gains an advantage.

McEveley did not deliberately handle that ball, he had what is called an 'involuntary reaction' after his back foot slipped beneath him.

However, his hand was in an ' unnatural position' when he handled the ball - penalty, no booking - was there a booking?

The ref could have been excused for not giving a penalty by the strict letter of the law but that would have been brave.
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Everybody knows handballs don't have to be deliberate to be given.

If that was the case penalties for handballs would only be given when players handle on the line to prevent a certain goal.
 
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