SUFC: Series of Fans Forums.

[Woodwardfan]

Maybe the fans should answer some questions as well as ask them:

What price would you accept for Ché?

More convoluted: If someone comes in with an offer to double/treble Ché's wages and gives him the chance of first team football in a higher division, and he hands in a written transfer request should we still hold him to his contract? In these circumstances, what price should we accept?

Another angle on Adams. I don't think he's good enough yet to rely on as our co-front striker if we are serious about a promotion push. I think he's one of the main reasons we have not scored more goals this season. To play alongside Sharp we need an intelligent and mobile player who can stretch defences and create the space for Sharp. Do that and create chances for Sharp and Billy will return the complements times over. No, I don't think the co-striker has to be tall and good in the air, often that comes with other limitations. A Matt Done with a team brain would be good, but not evident either.

While writing that I do acknowledge it's not easy to find a partner for Sharp. somebody mentioned Andy Keogh but why would he swap Perth for Sheffield and a content crowd for a depressed one?

 

[Woodwardfan]

Too many questions in this thread with easy answers. Best I can come up with is:

Given that you've stated that sufficient finances for success have always been available, and that you've always given your full backing for the manager of the time, why should fans expect the future to be different to our last decade of increasingly poor performance on the pitch?

Edit: follow up question: Isn't that exactly what you said with the last eight managers?

There lies the crux of the problems. Some say it's the Board's fault even though this new Board have been here for just two managerial appointments. Others like me say it's all down to the manager, he's the man who drives the club forward or backward. Others say it's a bit of both which in effect confuses the issue though undobtedly true. Fact is it's the owner's fault and the new half owner has had one failure to date, that's all, though the next one is in the balance.

McCabe will express regret that he has not selected a man who's been up to the job. He'll also acknowledge that he sacked a couple too early. He'll also re-iterate that he does not interfere with footballing matters and has only signed one player ( Sharp between managers, Warnock and Robson). He'll also say he's lost £70m in just over a decade.

What more can he say, it's the truth. It's the future that matters. What will be different? KM - 'we have the utmost confidence in Nigel Adkins', again what can we all say to that because only time will tell and by the time it comes it will probably another couple of years wasted. Let's hope not.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Nigel, why are your interviews so great?

Them NA interviews do grate on us a bit .

UTB

 

[PeteBlade]

What is the fucking point in these forums?

So we can all chat about the Blades and argue with Barney ?

 

[PeteBlade]

There lies the crux of the problems. Some say it's the Board's fault even though this new Board have been here for just two managerial appointments. Others like me say it's all down to the manager, he's the man who drives the club forward or backward. Others say it's a bit of both which in effect confuses the issue though undobtedly true. Fact is it's the owner's fault and the new half owner has had one failure to date, that's all, though the next one is in the balance.

McCabe will express regret that he has not selected a man who's been up to the job. He'll also acknowledge that he sacked a couple too early. He'll also re-iterate that he does not interfere with footballing matters and has only signed one player ( Sharp between managers, Warnock and Robson). He'll also say he's lost £70m in just over a decade.

What more can he say, it's the truth. It's the future that matters. What will be different? KM - 'we have the utmost confidence in Nigel Adkins', again what can we all say to that because only time will tell and by the time it comes it will probably another couple of years wasted. Let's hope not.

How many managers have we had since 2006? 9 is it?

Sooner or later you're going to have to stop blaming the various different managers and look towards the common denominator.

Unless we can somehow get away from kicking and screaming for managers to be relieved of their duties every season, we'll never progress.

 

[pommpey]

Another angle on Adams ...

Adams did a lot of leg work on Saturday with Billy and the central three midfielders pushing Walsall back. Walsall seemed reluctant to play it long and tried to pass it out from the keeper, whereby Adams et al were on them straight away. I like to see this pressing style and the denial of time on the ball.

Having said that though, where we all expected continued brilliance of Adams after Spurs last year, it just hasn't materialised. Now Adkins has stopped playing him out wide, he seems more comfortable up top but he is no target man, which Billy Sharp needs to either run off or feed off. At times there was too much distance between Sharp and Adams during the game for them both to be effective. He had a few attampts on goal but they were more out of desperation than genuine chance-creation.

I still think Adams is best placed in the attacking midfielder role tucked in behind the front two in a 3-4-1-2 formation. It is that central triangle of midfielders which seemed to be the problem area on Saturday and if we were to have a better, bigger CF to work with Billy and drop Adams into that support role I think with would work.
pommpey

 

[Woodwardfan]

How many managers have we had since 2006? 9 is it?

Sooner or later you're going to have to stop blaming the various different managers and look towards the common denominator.

Unless we can somehow get away from kicking and screaming for managers to be relieved of their duties every season, we'll never progress.

Suggest you re-read the first paragraph ( Fact is it's the owner's fault....) and also I'm not one of those asking for Adkins to be sacked either, so why the sermon?

The reason I blame the managers is that they all had the tools to do the job and they failed. Just one achiever would have changed our history and it never happened. Of course KM and now the prince are responsible, at fault, whatever, but just one achiever in the hot seat would have done the trick.

 

[Boxer Blade]

Without a doubt I would want to know the plans for achieving the goal of promotion to the championship and the premiership,

 

[Billyblade]

Mr McCabe,
You are asked to see a 25-year-old man who experienced marked weakness and dyspnea 4 days after being admitted for a compound arm fracture after falling from a tree. Estimated blood loss from the initial fracture episode was 600 mL, and the patient was transfused with one unit of packed erythrocytes. The initial cross match was reported as compatible by the transfusion service. The patient has never been transfused before this incident and has no other serious medical illnesses. The patient's arm fracture was treated with surgical pinning and prophylactic antibiotics consisting of cefotetan 2 g IV every 12 hours. On examination, the patient is febrile and mildly tachycardic, with no evidence of wound infection or compartment syndrome. Laboratory data show a hematocrit of 15%, absolute reticulocyte count of 600,000 μL, and total bilirubin of 70 umol/L with direct bilirubin of 9 umol/L. The peripheral smear shows many spherocytes. No hemoglobinemia or hemoglobinuria is seen on visual inspection of the plasma and urine. The transfusion service reports that the direct Coombs' test is now strongly positive using anti-IgG and only weakly positive with anti-C3d antisera. They further report that routine compatibility tests show no new erythrocyte antibodies in the patient's serum and that, when they attempted to elute antibody from the patient's RBCs and test against normal RBCs, the results were negative. What is the most likely diagnosis?

A) Hemolytic transfusion reaction caused by an ABO incompatibility
B) Delayed hemolytic transfusion reaction
C) Autoimmune hemolytic anemia of warm antibody type
D) Autoimmune hemolytic anemia of cold antibody type
E) Drug-induced immune hemolytic anemia

 

[PeteBlade]

Suggest you re-read the first paragraph ( Fact is it's the owner's fault....) and also I'm not one of those asking for Adkins to be sacked either, so why the sermon?

The reason I blame the managers is that they all had the tools to do the job and they failed. Just one achiever would have changed our history and it never happened. Of course KM and now the prince are responsible, at fault, whatever, but just one achiever in the hot seat would have done the trick.

"Others like me say it's all down to the manager" is what I read from your first paragraph.

I can't remember a manager that hasn't had to start a season without the rug being pulled from underneath him and us selling one of our most important players at the most inconvenient times.

Also, to say Adkins has had all the backing he needs is hugely wide of the mark.

Those who constantly lump all the blame onto whichever manager we happen to have this season, while letting the board off Scot free and defending them, need sermons.

 

[Worksop II]

I challenge anyone to say they wouldn't

To boldly go ..............................

 

[Woodwardfan]

"Others like me say it's all down to the manager" is what I read from your first paragraph.

I can't remember a manager that hasn't had to start a season without the rug being pulled from underneath him and us selling one of our most important players at the most inconvenient times.

Also, to say Adkins has had all the backing he needs is hugely wide of the mark.

Those who constantly lump all the blame onto whichever manager we happen to have this season, while letting the board off Scot free and defending them, need sermons.

Best to read all the paragraph though Of course it's the owner/s fault, everything is, nobody questions that, certainly not McCabe, but there are reasons in the sub-plots.

Take Adkins' performance to date which you mentioned. I honestly expected us to gain promotion this season and I knew full well the quality of the squad he inherited. To add to that squad he has had the budget to sign 6 Championship players, all on high wages, with Woolford on a bit less perhaps.

I believe he has had "all the backing he needs" or should have needed. You may not think that, but it's all a matter of opinion, of course it is. No one can tell me Adkins has not failed this season, but we all move on, he'll get another chance next season.

As an aside, I hope his Scout can find us a few cheaper young prospects this summer, you know a Jamie Murphy or two, it is allowed to sign prospects with an upside to their careers. There's loads of life and energy outside the Championship and older players It's a nonsense really, what's happened, with that backing.

 

[Darthblade]

The owners are arranging a series of Fans Forums this summer.

If you are allowed one question each, what is your question? Let's assume we will remain in League 1 for next season.

Mine is:

What budget will the manager be working to next season, i.e. players' wage budget and transfer fee budget for the full year. In your opinion will it be the biggest in the division, bearing in mind we have the biggest fan base? If you are sensitive about mentioning actual figures just answer the latter stage of the question.

Mr McCabe .....

My question is; You are often annoyed when the accusation is put to you that the Board of SUFC are not ambitious. Many supporters simply do not believe that there has been sufficient investment in the first team squad and that over the last 5 years in this Division we have been in a situation where 4 / 5 key, quality players would likely have secured an escape from our self-imposed exile in this Division. Given this scenario and the lack of trust in the current Board, how do the Board propose to evidence to the long-suffering and incredibly loyal supporters of this Club, that the Manager is sufficiently resourced to mount a realistic challenge for the top two positions next season ?

UTB & FTP

 

[Woodwardfan]

Mr McCabe .....

My question is; You are often annoyed when the accusation is put to you that the Board of SUFC are not ambitious. Many supporters simply do not believe that there has been sufficient investment in the first team squad and that over the last 5 years in this Division we have been in a situation where 4 / 5 key, quality players would likely have secured an escape from our self-imposed exile in this Division. Given this scenario and the lack of trust in the current Board, how do the Board propose to evidence to the long-suffering and incredibly loyal supporters of this Club, that the Manager is sufficiently resourced to mount a realistic challenge for the top two positions next season ?

UTB & FTP

"By holding a series of Forums to explain".

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Mr McCabe/Kevin/Kevo

On a number of occasions since we arrived in League 1, we see other clubs on much smaller budgets finishing much higher than ourselves. Most of these teams have bought players on their way up on their career path from this league and below to do this, yet we insist on bringing in players from above on a downward path. This is highlighted by where these players have moved onto after Bramall Lane. You often lament the difficulty in preventing our own players from moving to bigger clubs or those in higher leagues – could we not be using our position more effectively to attract the best upcoming players Leagues 1 and 2 have to offer on our quest to reach "the upper echelons of English football"?

 

[alcoblade]

What is the fucking point in these forums?

"Hey, I want success as much as you......"

UTB

 

[alcoblade]

Adams did a lot of leg work on Saturday with Billy and the central three midfielders pushing Walsall back. Walsall seemed reluctant to play it long and tried to pass it out from the keeper, whereby Adams et al were on them straight away. I like to see this pressing style and the denial of time on the ball.

Having said that though, where we all expected continued brilliance of Adams after Spurs last year, it just hasn't materialised. Now Adkins has stopped playing him out wide, he seems more comfortable up top but he is no target man, which Billy Sharp needs to either run off or feed off. At times there was too much distance between Sharp and Adams during the game for them both to be effective. He had a few attampts on goal but they were more out of desperation than genuine chance-creation.

I still think Adams is best placed in the attacking midfielder role tucked in behind the front two in a 3-4-1-2 formation. It is that central triangle of midfielders which seemed to be the problem area on Saturday and if we were to have a better, bigger CF to work with Billy and drop Adams into that support role I think with would work.
pommpey

That's a long question though!

UTB

 

[BushBlade]

Kevin, Captain Blade. Has he had his day? Should we be looking at a younger, hungrier mascot?

 

[pommpey]

That's a long question though!

UTB

There are so, so many other questions, alco.

I don't doubt McCabe wants the best. It is for 'who' which is the issue. I'm pretty sure he (and us) want a Premieship walloping side, akin to the Foxes at the moment. That doesn't square with his input, regardless of Desso and his 'eight million' (I'd love to see where that has been spent)

pommpey

 

[Rodders]

Mr McCabe/Kevin/Kevo

On a number of occasions since we arrived in League 1, we see other clubs on much smaller budgets finishing much higher than ourselves. Most of these teams have bought players on their way up on their career path from this league and below to do this, yet we insist on bringing in players from above on a downward path. This is highlighted by where these players have moved onto after Bramall Lane. You often lament the difficulty in preventing our own players from moving to bigger clubs or those in higher leagues – could we not be using our position more effectively to attract the best upcoming players Leagues 1 and 2 have to offer on our quest to reach "the upper echelons of English football"?

"Hey, we've just been unlucky"

 

[Tyler Durden]

Mr McCabe,
You are asked to see a 25-year-old man who experienced marked weakness and dyspnea 4 days after being admitted for a compound arm fracture after falling from a tree. Estimated blood loss from the initial fracture episode was 600 mL, and the patient was transfused with one unit of packed erythrocytes. The initial cross match was reported as compatible by the transfusion service. The patient has never been transfused before this incident and has no other serious medical illnesses. The patient's arm fracture was treated with surgical pinning and prophylactic antibiotics consisting of cefotetan 2 g IV every 12 hours. On examination, the patient is febrile and mildly tachycardic, with no evidence of wound infection or compartment syndrome. Laboratory data show a hematocrit of 15%, absolute reticulocyte count of 600,000 μL, and total bilirubin of 70 umol/L with direct bilirubin of 9 umol/L. The peripheral smear shows many spherocytes. No hemoglobinemia or hemoglobinuria is seen on visual inspection of the plasma and urine. The transfusion service reports that the direct Coombs' test is now strongly positive using anti-IgG and only weakly positive with anti-C3d antisera. They further report that routine compatibility tests show no new erythrocyte antibodies in the patient's serum and that, when they attempted to elute antibody from the patient's RBCs and test against normal RBCs, the results were negative. What is the most likely diagnosis?

A) Hemolytic transfusion reaction caused by an ABO incompatibility
B) Delayed hemolytic transfusion reaction
C) Autoimmune hemolytic anemia of warm antibody type
D) Autoimmune hemolytic anemia of cold antibody type
E) Drug-induced immune hemolytic anemia

C, I'd say.

Warm autoimmune hemolytic anaemia is common symptom of the underlying condition, lupus erythromatosus. The strongly positive Coombs test appears to support this.

Unlike McCabes ability to properly support this fucking club

 

[bornablade]

Kevin, Captain Blade. Has he had his day? Should we be looking at a younger, hungrier mascot?

At last a sensible question. I've been thinking about this for weeks.

 

[Ricky]

Mr McCabe .....

My question is; You are often annoyed when the accusation is put to you that the Board of SUFC are not ambitious. Many supporters simply do not believe that there has been sufficient investment in the first team squad and that over the last 5 years in this Division we have been in a situation where 4 / 5 key, quality players would likely have secured an escape from our self-imposed exile in this Division. Given this scenario and the lack of trust in the current Board, how do the Board propose to evidence to the long-suffering and incredibly loyal supporters of this Club, that the Manager is sufficiently resourced to mount a realistic challenge for the top two positions next season ?

UTB & FTP

It's never even been a case of needing another 4/5.


If we kept Blackman in 2012/13 we would've gone up.

If we kept McDonald or replaced him properly we could've gone up 2013/14. Although we did try for once with Baxter and Cuvelier.

If we replaced Maguire properly and signed Coady we would've probably gone up last season.

If we kept Murphy or replaced him properly and signed a good centre half we would've certainly been promoted this season.


It's always such small, completely unnecessary margins that lead us to miss out every season. I just don't understand why they do enough to keep us 'thereabouts' but never quite enough to make sure of it, even when it really wouldn't take much. Is getting to the Championship really worth so very little?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Kevin, Captain Blade. Has he had his day? Should we be looking at a younger, hungrier mascot?

The Cap'ns sidekick, Mr Cutler, went missing with no explanation. Was he part of the technical board and could he sign the cheques?

 

[BushBlade]

The Cap'ns sidekick, Mr Cutler, went missing with no explanation. Was he part of the technical board and could he sign the cheques?

I heard he put weight on, grew a beard and adopted an American accent.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Kevin, Captain Blade. Has he had his day? Should we be looking at a younger, hungrier mascot?

His lack of progression at the club is a complete and utter embarrassment. How long are we supposed to invest in him before he becomes Admiral Blade? He needs to lose a few pounds and get a better attitude.

 

[Sean Thornton]

His lack of progression at the club is a complete and utter embarrassment. How long are we supposed to invest in him before he becomes Admiral Blade? He needs to lose a few pounds and get a better attitude.

And stop wearing Bashams boots.

 

[Darthblade]

"By holding a series of Forums to explain".

I wouldn't believe our Board at the moment, if they told me the time ...... I would look at mi watch to check they weren't bullshitting.

First bit of hard evidence will be the "released list" !!!

This will signal our Club's intentions for next season, along with the list of "contracted players" made available for transfer.

Hopefully, these will be available on 9th May following the last match of the season.

That's the sort of evidence that's needed because we've all heard the Boards words of wisdom over the last 4 years and most ........ is bullshit.

UTB & FTP

 

[S5Blade]

My question would be:

How many people at this fans forum are members of S24SU* and have come to actually ask questions rather than piss and moan on a forum?

with a follow up of........

Thanks for answering all the questions, you are obviously lying about every answer given, so whats the point in these fan forums?


*other forums are available

 

[finlaytheblade]

"By holding a series of Forums to explain".

When questioned about re-investment of money's in from transfers the reply is always, : money has been invested in the team.. ;
Technically that is correct as the club is losing in the region of 5 million a year.
Fans find this hard to accept as players coming in seem to take us further away from the promised land as they are inferior to the ones lost.
.This is logical as teams from higher divisions cherry pick the best from the lower divisions. and we seem to collect
Players surplus to requirements from higher divisions.That seems to be what happens,we have to break the cycle.
Two ways to do this: best way is to grow our own the danger is as I have said cherry picking by higher league clubs we have to resist obviously,
sometimes it's out of your hands money talks and any young player will be tempted by this.
The other way which would in any case be needed as there is no way we can build a quality squad from home grown players alone. is transfers in :