Sign Dean Hammond permanently - yes or no?

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Sign Hammond permanently?

  • Yes

    Votes: 24 9.6%

  • No

    Votes: 227 90.4%
  • Total voters
    251



zablade said:
Hammomd has already agreed terms.
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So typical, if true.

Can see the "experienced trustworthy professional" argument, but he's just not good enough at his advanced age. The decline's terminal.

Would much rather a new manager bringing in his own trustworthy professionals (experienced/ageing or otherwise), to tell the truth.
 
I'm all for giving Adkins time but if he is even considering signing that steaming pile of shite then we should sack him and get a new manager whatever the cost.

Btw a NO from me.
 
You just don't get it he does all this unseen work that is absolutely brilliant ...what I don't get is why most of what we actually do see is crap
 
Bladesman said:
Don't care either way.

Surprised if Adkins is allowed to sign anyone at the moment.
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That's the problem Adkins has created . Most of us if truth be known couldn't care either way , as apathy becomes a issue at the lane and will be clear to the board with season ticket renewals , or the lack of them.

That's the culture started by Clough and carried on by Adkins

Even if Hammond said he would play for the blades for free , the answer to him should be thanks but no thanks.

Hammond is another glaring example that Adkins cannot get it right in the transfer market . High wage for low return.

Hammond unfortunately is past his sell by date . The more worrying thing for us is Adkins past it , or are we seriously missing something with red and white tinted glasses.

UTB
 
If we retain Adkins and he signs Hammond, then i'm seriously going to have to find something else to do on Saturdays. It'll set us back another 2-3 years.
 
Dimaio is better than Hammond and he was on thousands of pounds a week less which might not be saying much but it's true. Our club is fucked with how it handles recruitment and until this is addressed we will always be fucked. After seeing Hammond on more than enough occasions he is no where near good enough for us, it's as simple as that, Dimaio might not be good enough for us but he's better than Hammond is now. You can get players on less money who can do the same job as him and some, so it makes it a bad decision in terms of both football and business sense for him to be at the club now.

No.
 
Wouldn't sign any of the loan players. All journey men that have not stood out in a poor side.
 
We haven't signed him yet, and I am concious this will be criticising someone for what they haven't done yet, buuuut with the endless positive feedback Adkins gives re Hammond, his endless quest to sign in him the first place and the Star running the story that Adkins wants him as his first buy, then it is pretty obvious that if Adkins is here next season then so will Hammond.

And while I can forgive managers making mistakes in the transfer market, gambling on players that they think might do the required job and it not working out. If Adkins decides to sign him after seeing at first hand how past it and ineffective a player he has been for 6 months then wemight aswell give up now.
 
Bladepicker said:
We haven't signed him yet, and I am concious this will be criticising someone for what they haven't done yet, buuuut with the endless positive feedback Adkins gives re Hammond, his endless quest to sign in him the first place and the Star running the story that Adkins wants him as his first buy, then it is pretty obvious that if Adkins is here next season then so will Hammond.

And while I can forgive managers making mistakes in the transfer market, gambling on players that they think might do the required job and it not working out. If Adkins decides to sign him after seeing at first hand how past it and ineffective a player he has been for 6 months then wemight aswell give up now.
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I have stuck up for Adkins a lot this season but if he signs Hammond then he will lose all my faith in him.
 
Past 100 votes now, over 90% saying no.

The yes voters are very quiet. Anyone want to own up?!
 



I have Adkins down at the moment as mildly Bonkers

I suspect I will have to revise my diagnosis in the summer
 
Ricky said:
Past 100 votes now, over 90% saying no.

The yes voters are very quiet. Anyone want to own up?!
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I voted yes. Here's a copy and paste of my post from last Thursday from another thread.

And before jokes are made, yes, I have fully operational eyes, and yes, I have a season ticket.


"Adkins is trying to integrate youth into our first team, and to do so effectively you need players like Hammond, complete role models and professionals, to inspire them and aid their progress. I cannot emphasise enough how important it is to have players like this in the squad. Even if we signed him and he only played a handful of games, his contribution behind the scenes would more than make up for it.

People want to bring in young players instead of him, and that's all well and good, but you do need experience somewhere in the squad to get the most out of the young players and to guide them. Hammond is perfect for this, so why not him?

I understand that many people fail to see what he brings to the table, but there is far more to Dean Hammond than meets the eye, and he is worth every penny (and I'd be willing to wager that he would be on nowhere near the wages many on here seem to think should he sign permanently). It would be a bonus if he eventually took up a coaching role here, as he is exactly the sort of person we should be looking to have around the club."
 
Enigmatic said:
I voted yes. Here's a copy and paste of my post from last Thursday from another thread.

And before jokes are made, yes, I have fully operational eyes, and yes, I have a season ticket.


"Adkins is trying to integrate youth into our first team, and to do so effectively you need players like Hammond, complete role models and professionals, to inspire them and aid their progress. I cannot emphasise enough how important it is to have players like this in the squad. Even if we signed him and he only played a handful of games, his contribution behind the scenes would more than make up for it.

People want to bring in young players instead of him, and that's all well and good, but you do need experience somewhere in the squad to get the most out of the young players and to guide them. Hammond is perfect for this, so why not him?

I understand that many people fail to see what he brings to the table, but there is far more to Dean Hammond than meets the eye, and he is worth every penny (and I'd be willing to wager that he would be on nowhere near the wages many on here seem to think should he sign permanently). It would be a bonus if he eventually took up a coaching role here, as he is exactly the sort of person we should be looking to have around the club."
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The thing is, if he signs he'll be a regular in the team. The wages he'll likely be on will dictate that.

Experience isn't that important if the younger players are strong characters, certainly in this league. Yes it can be important in a certain type of squad/team but you can't sign a player just because he's experienced if he's useless on the pitch.

We should be signing younger players of the right character, and one or two more experienced players who are, above all else, still good players.
 
Enigmatic said:
I voted yes. Here's a copy and paste of my post from last Thursday from another thread.

And before jokes are made, yes, I have fully operational eyes, and yes, I have a season ticket.


"Adkins is trying to integrate youth into our first team, and to do so effectively you need players like Hammond, complete role models and professionals, to inspire them and aid their progress. I cannot emphasise enough how important it is to have players like this in the squad. Even if we signed him and he only played a handful of games, his contribution behind the scenes would more than make up for it.

People want to bring in young players instead of him, and that's all well and good, but you do need experience somewhere in the squad to get the most out of the young players and to guide them. Hammond is perfect for this, so why not him?

I understand that many people fail to see what he brings to the table, but there is far more to Dean Hammond than meets the eye, and he is worth every penny (and I'd be willing to wager that he would be on nowhere near the wages many on here seem to think should he sign permanently). It would be a bonus if he eventually took up a coaching role here, as he is exactly the sort of person we should be looking to have around the club."
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What wages do you think he is worth ?

Reportedly on £22K at Leicester, I am guessing we are picking up half of that this Season

What do you think he will settle for next Season from SUFC ?

I would guess at the same £11K we pay him now
 
From all the shit you hear about Hammond from Adkins,you've got to assume that some sort of deal has been agreed,and he's trying very hard to convince us that he's great..
Not happening nige
 
It's a fallacy to think you need slow, unfit, players just because they have 'experience'. He's wasting a position in central midfield and it means the other central middy has to be a box to box, goalscoring,wonder boy to compensate otherwise we continue to operate with an ineffective engine room that lacks dynamism and goals.
 
Enigmatic said:
I voted yes. Here's a copy and paste of my post from last Thursday from another thread.

And before jokes are made, yes, I have fully operational eyes, and yes, I have a season ticket.


"Adkins is trying to integrate youth into our first team, and to do so effectively you need players like Hammond, complete role models and professionals, to inspire them and aid their progress. I cannot emphasise enough how important it is to have players like this in the squad. Even if we signed him and he only played a handful of games, his contribution behind the scenes would more than make up for it.

People want to bring in young players instead of him, and that's all well and good, but you do need experience somewhere in the squad to get the most out of the young players and to guide them. Hammond is perfect for this, so why not him?

I understand that many people fail to see what he brings to the table, but there is far more to Dean Hammond than meets the eye, and he is worth every penny (and I'd be willing to wager that he would be on nowhere near the wages many on here seem to think should he sign permanently). It would be a bonus if he eventually took up a coaching role here, as he is exactly the sort of person we should be looking to have around the club."
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I thought the same about Hammond . However I have changed my thought on Adkins , Hammond , Pathways . I did say in a post that the carrot to Hammond would be a coaching post up for grabs . This to me would be a big mistake and somebody else we will have to pay compensation to, when we sack Adkins.

UTB
 
FriethBlade said:
You just don't get it he does all this unseen work that is absolutely brilliant ...what I don't get is why most of what we actually do see is crap
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Bet he's out there now doing loads of good work that no ones can see.

We just need to get it scheduled in for a Saturday now.
 
Enigmatic said:
I voted yes. Here's a copy and paste of my post from last Thursday from another thread.

And before jokes are made, yes, I have fully operational eyes, and yes, I have a season ticket.


"Adkins is trying to integrate youth into our first team, and to do so effectively you need players like Hammond, complete role models and professionals, to inspire them and aid their progress. I cannot emphasise enough how important it is to have players like this in the squad. Even if we signed him and he only played a handful of games, his contribution behind the scenes would more than make up for it.

People want to bring in young players instead of him, and that's all well and good, but you do need experience somewhere in the squad to get the most out of the young players and to guide them. Hammond is perfect for this, so why not him?

I understand that many people fail to see what he brings to the table, but there is far more to Dean Hammond than meets the eye, and he is worth every penny (and I'd be willing to wager that he would be on nowhere near the wages many on here seem to think should he sign permanently). It would be a bonus if he eventually took up a coaching role here, as he is exactly the sort of person we should be looking to have around the club."
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Ei up Nige
 
It's the stuff he does that you dont see:

Shouts "Come on lads!!!" just before the team leave the dressing room, also bounces the ball on the floor with great purpose. Rallies the troops does that

Makes a smashing cuppa

Gets a shine on the Gaffer's shoes to military standard

Parallel parks like no other

Really good with his hands. I mean REALLY good
 
Worksop II said:
What wages do you think he is worth ?

Reportedly on £22K at Leicester, I am guessing we are picking up half of that this Season

What do you think he will settle for next Season from SUFC ?

I would guess at the same £11K we pay him now
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I appreciate the concern over his wages; I wouldn't be comfortable signing him on £11k p/w. That said, I don't think he would be on anything like that if he were to sign this summer, but we can only speculate when no one other than the club, his agent and himself will know the actual figure. I'd be happy paying him up to £5k p/w, ideally on a 1-year deal, with a view to joining the coaching staff. But this is all off the top of my head so please don't take it too seriously...



Ricky said:
The thing is, if he signs he'll be a regular in the team. The wages he'll likely be on will dictate that.

Experience isn't that important if the younger players are strong characters, certainly in this league. Yes it can be important in a certain type of squad/team but you can't sign a player just because he's experienced if he's useless on the pitch.

We should be signing younger players of the right character, and one or two more experienced players who are, above all else, still good players.
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I think he'd definitely be in the starting line-up initially, but would become more of a squad player after Christmas. I take your point, and agree that stronger characters wouldn't need the experienced head around them as much, but having someone in the squad who has been there and got the t-shirt (got a few, actually) is invaluable in a team chasing promotion. I am one of the seemingly few who believes Hammond has a role to play on the pitch as well as off of it. I think when the squad is reshaped and players come and go this summer, Hammond will look a much better player. At the end of the day, it's all about opinions, but I'm not the sort to get on the back of a player in our red and white stripes giving his best, especially not a guy as genuine as Dean Hammond.
 



Tyler Durden said:
Absolutely, catagorically fucking not.

The biggest blunder we've made all season was signing this utterly useless pile of excrement. A more damaging move than having Sammon and Woolford combined.

Any rare attempt at positive movement on the pitch is snuffed out when this lumbering, haphazard cunt gets the ball. He should never, ever be allowed at this club again.
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Completely agree. It was obvious at Crewe first time I saw him and it hasn't really got any better.
 
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