Baxter Suspended

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WhiteHawk said:
If that's true then he deserves some credit for showing that he actually gives a shit.
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To me Baxter is not a good role model for younger players , good enough or smart enough to question the managers decisions . Yes healthy debate is good but going round full of anger , allegedly taking drugs , brawling is not good in any business . It's disruptive .

To me he has to go . Adkins the boss , he calls the shots , and thankfully he now realises the buck stops with him , the football manager.

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Lord Bos of Eckington. said:
I had a phone call chat this evening with someone who was there .( not a player ) .

It does seem that like me on the keyboard , other people much closer to the field of play cannot see or work out what a certain player adds and the tremendous work that he carries out off the ball we appear not to always see or appreciate.

To get out of this mess we do need discipline and if the players are to have a healthy postmortem , then brawling with each other will not help the cause . What may be even worst or worrying , is if they are certain people in the dressing room ( including management ) who are in denial and do not really see a major problem .

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Interesting twist on what happened LBOE...fair play to Baxter if he's tried to say how it is...as you say,a bit worrying if NA and certain players don't see any problems.
 
Lord Bos of Eckington. said:
To me Baxter is not a good role model for younger players , good enough or smart enough to question the managers decisions . Yes healthy debate is good but going round full of anger , allegedly taking drugs , brawling is not good in any business . It's disruptive .

To me he has to go . Adkins the boss , he calls the shots , and thankfully he now realises the buck stops with him , the football manager.

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Oh I agree he isn't a good role model but forgetting the drugs and whatever went off in Dublin for a second, I want to know our players give a shit. If Collins has a shit game then I want Edgar to give him some shit in the dressing room, if Sharp runs his bollocks off for 90 minutes but gets no service from anyone, I want him to tear the rest of the team a new one. I want players that have got a bit of passion (and are good at football, obviously) and give a shit for the club they're playing for, not a bunch of twats that just turn up, put in a half arsed performance, and then they all sit in the dressing room in silence after the game.
 
Surely they wouldn't suspend him for showing he cares about the club. If it's drugs (which a lot of people are saying it is ) then it will be deserved . If we have jumped the gun could he sue us. Will be interesting to see what the official line will be
 
WhiteHawk said:
Oh I agree he isn't a good role model but forgetting the drugs and whatever went off in Dublin for a second, I want to know our players give a shit. If Collins has a shit game then I want Edgar to give him some shit in the dressing room, if Sharp runs his bollocks off for 90 minutes but gets no service from anyone, I want him to tear the rest of the team a new one. I want players that have got a bit of passion (and are good at football, obviously) and give a shit for the club they're playing for, not a bunch of twats that just turn up, put in a half arsed performance, and then they all sit in the dressing room in silence after the game.
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Baxter has a behaviour and alleged drug problem . Something makes him blow up and go off the rails .( could be his peers , lifestyle , liverpool life , who knows ) .

I think a drug issue will come out instigated by the club who will have no choice . Yes I want players to care and have a go at each other , be open and sort the problems out for the good of the club.
To me there seems divisions between players who are not to me playing as a team.

Is Adkins helping the situation , who does appear to have his own them and us club .

Baxter the brawler , drug taker is a spent force and so are any players who have backed him or who are seen to support him . Adkins is getting tough which hopefully is not a little too late.

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chesblade said:
Surely they wouldn't suspend him for showing he cares about the club. If it's drugs (which a lot of people are saying it is ) then it will be deserved . If we have jumped the gun could he sue us. Will be interesting to see what the official line will be
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The initial suspension was for the dressing room brawl . Next issue will be a random drugs test instigated by club or FA , who knows but it wants sorting . Only a good football result will put things in perspective and help the club to mitigate the continuing issues which are taking over the actual football.

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Lord Bos of Eckington. said:
Baxter has a behaviour and alleged drug problem . Something makes him blow up and go off the rails .( could be his peers , lifestyle , liverpool life , who knows ) .

I think a drug issue will come out instigated by the club who will have no choice . Yes I want players to care and have a go at each other , be open and sort the problems out for the good of the club.
To me there seems divisions between players who are not to me playing as a team.

Is Adkins helping the situation , who does appear to have his own them and us club .

Baxter the brawler , drug taker is a spent force and so are any players who have backed him or who are seen to support him . Adkins is getting tough which hopefully is not a little too late.

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They're definitely not playing as a team and like you say, there does appear to be some sort of them & us situation going on with Adkins. Him saying the team isn't good enough for promotion can't help at all, why would they want to play for him when he's saying stuff like that?

Baxter needs to be sacked and I certainly won't miss him but if what you say is true, give me 11 players with that passion please.
 
Don't want to get personal but has anyone ever thought of a dislike button. I could have pressed it a hundred times since Tuesday.

Hate to think how many I'd get though
 
WhiteHawk said:
They're definitely not playing as a team and like you say, there does appear to be some sort of them & us situation going on with Adkins. Him saying the team isn't good enough for promotion can't help at all, why would they want to play for him when he's saying stuff like that?

Baxter needs to be sacked and I certainly won't miss him but if what you say is true, give me 11 players with that passion please.
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Agree WhiteHawk . The problem is the one who is doing the talking and giving the bollockings out does not do it on the field of play himself , has a alleged drugs problem , may have failed a club test , starts a brawl , so is the totally wrong mouth piece spokesman for the players or even himself.

Yes let's have passion which starts on the pitch and spills over to the dressing room . Pity they don't show the same fight and passion week in week out on the pitch , but Adkins does say they hurt and care .

Let's see how tommorow pans out as every game theses days are major important and have a side product influence full of smoke and mirrors

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http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foot...ited-jose-baxter-failed-a-drug-test-1-7741157

Lord Bos of Eckington. said:
Agree WhiteHawk . The problem is the one who is doing the talking and giving the bollockings out does not do it on the field of play himself , has a alleged drugs problem , may have failed a club test , starts a brawl , so is the totally wrong mouth piece spokesman for the players or even himself.

Yes let's have passion which starts on the pitch and spills over to the dressing room . Pity they don't show the same fight and passion week in week out on the pitch , but Adkins does say they hurt and care .

Let's see how tommorow pans out as every game theses days are major important and have a side product influence full of smoke and mirrors

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Completely agree that he's the wrong man to be the spokesperson and he doesn't do the job on the pitch himself (although none of them do).
 
Linz said:
I assume Footballers' Wives wasn't on your televisual radar?

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2002/aug/08/broadcasting3
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/news/a19689/footballers-wives-storyline-causes-outrage/

This shambles is right up their street.... I'd be surprised if they're not currently planning its resurrection.
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Ahh Dream Team is more realistic to our club. We share some lovely pararellels with the fictitious Harchester United. Except I don't think our team were wiped out after a play-off final.
 



loyalblade95 said:
Still seems like a fall guy in ways I'm willing to bet other people in the locker room have been done for misconduct n other stuff as well before
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You might be right LoyalBlade. Just wondering out of interest you understand, which player would you have suspended for Baxter's failed drug test? :confused:
 
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mosbolad said:
You might be right LoyalBlade. Just wondering out of interest you understand, which player would you have suspended for Baxter's failed drug test? :confused:
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Lol only heard that it was for failed drug test yesterday yet again at first thought it was for his comments after bury game
 
mosbolad said:
You might be right LoyalBlade. Just wondering out of interest you understand, which player would you have suspended for Baxter's failed drug test? :confused:
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As for fall guy probly sammon as a excuse to ship him off back to derby
 
He's an idiot. Simple as really.



He's got the best job in the world, but its a very short career. He can put whatever he wants up his nose when he is 35 and retired. Just wait until then.
 
Lord Bos of Eckington. said:
The suspension is not down to taking drugs . after the match last Tuesday in the away dressing room he did criticise a number of players and started a fisticuff brawl . When players were separated Baxter left the dressing room found the RS commentator and gave a unauthorised interview apologising for the teams performance . His interview was a little shaky and disjointed , but at least he had the balls to tell it how it is IMO.
Who is right and who is wrong , who knows in this SUFC soap opera . Either way he is finished at the lane .


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Just read this thread in detail.

Official statement makes no mention of drugs

And the interview could've ended up on the official site in any number of ways.

I remember him remonstrating with players during the game that he didn't have an outlet. But he's done that before.

Strange character. The interview sounds like he's bored and couldn't care less. But that's just the way he speaks.

Not the first person to be transformed when he gets on the pitch.
 
Not sure about this dressing room stuff.

Did I hear it wrong or in the RS McCabe interview of yesterday, did the RS guy directly quote that JB was suspended for failing a drugs test and did McCabe, with an ideal opportunity to,refute this, fail to do so ??

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DronnieBlade said:
Not sure about this dressing room stuff.

Did I hear it wrong or in the RS McCabe interview of yesterday, did the RS guy directly quote that JB was suspended for failing a drugs test and did McCabe, with an ideal opportunity to,refute this, fail to do so ??

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That's pretty much how I heard it.
 
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