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OPINION: Sheffield United's transfer window - Frustrating? Yes. Disastrous? No

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Sheffield United manager Nigel Adkins

Let's get this straight from the off...Sheffield United fans have every right to be annoyed that transfer deadline day passed without the squad being strengthened.

It has been clear for the majority of this season so far that there are genuine weaknesses in personnel that needed to be addressed. Too many goals are being conceded, so whether Dan Burn of Fulham is capable of fixing that issue or not, there is at least the understanding that a central defender was key to any potential recruitment.

3422570195.jpg

Nigel Adkins
As well as that, there is a severe lack of creativity in midfield, with very few options available with the ability to change a game, leaving, as things stand, the tenacious Billy Sharp forging chances for himself and putting them away. Put simply, there is an over-reliance on the striker. Goalscorers don't come cheap though, so bringing someone in as a provider would make sense.

Some might argue that making two signings wouldn't be enough, but being pragmatic, let's say it would make a big difference at least. However, a solution to neither of those problem areas has been found, at this stage anyway, hence the frustration and in many cases anger, expressed by Blades fans this morning. That's entirely understandable, even if some of the comments on social media were more than a little extreme. They have been in this division for too long already and the thought of having to spend another in League One fills everyone with dread.

However, with tin hat on stand by, let's look at things from a different point of view.

The loan window opens up again next week. Yes, I am well aware that this sounds like an easy way out of a discouraging situation, but I remain firmly in the belief that loan deals, involving the right player of course, are key to slightly longer-term thinking.

2233668652.jpg

Kevin McCabe and Jim Phipps
It's one thing buying players to get you out of League One, but what happens if they can't cut it in the Championship (if they were good enough there's a fair chance they'd already be there and playing regularly) and the club are left overloaded by players of little use, on big wages and therefore hard to get rid of? You would find it very difficult to approach a player of sufficient quality currently in this league and say 'we think you're good enough to get us up, but we'll only give you a one-year deal because we're not sure you're THAT good.'

Signing a player, short-term, on the fringes of a well-placed Championship team would make a lot more sense, though obviously even they are hard to come by.

As Jim Phipps has pointed out, the squad is already too big. Too many players have been brought in, some on good wages, and are therefore difficult to shift. It should be pointed out, and the club hierarchy will, or at least should, be in agreement, that the current regime more than played its part in making that so, but there has to be a cut off point at some stage and they have chosen it to be now. Again, frustrating from a fans' perspective, but unfortunately necessary nonetheless.

January transfer windows are also notoriously difficult to work within. The board have stated there is cash to spend, but it can't be a bottomless jar and there is Salary Cost Management Protocol to contend with. At this stage of the season transfer costs are much higher, because every signing comes with an element of panic. Players know this, or rather players' agents do, and the selling club knows it too. There are various other factors to acknowledge. If a player is under contract he could want paid up by his current club. There could be others whose contract is up soon who may think it better to hang tight and negotiate better wages when moving on a free transfer. All this and more makes any deal more difficult to get over the line.

Then, of course you have to factor in Sheffield United's stature. This might sound like a far-fetched comparison, but United are operating in a relatively similar way to the bigger Premier League clubs. If Juventus, for example, try to sign a player and Liverpool also make a bid, you can guarantee the fee quoted to the Merseyside club will be a lot higher than the Italians would be asked to pay. Put simply traders know where the money is. Similarly, if United and, taking a random example from the competition at the minute, Peterborough make a move for a particular player, there will be a noticeable difference in fees. Being the big fish comes with costs.

But the light of the loan window keeps the tunnel manageable, as have some performances this season that have shown, though not often enough, the capabilities of the current team. It's been a hugely frustrating month, on and off the pitch for United, but there is a long way to go and there is no reason to believe that promotion definitely can't be achieved. Even if that's by way of the play offs when a top two place was all but expected at the beginning of the season.


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(Put it in a new thread so those interested can find it.)

OPINION: Sheffield United's transfer window - Frustrating? Yes. Disastrous? No

3965801462.jpg

Sheffield United manager Nigel Adkins

Let's get this straight from the off...Sheffield United fans have every right to be annoyed that transfer deadline day passed without the squad being strengthened.

It has been clear for the majority of this season so far that there are genuine weaknesses in personnel that needed to be addressed. Too many goals are being conceded, so whether Dan Burn of Fulham is capable of fixing that issue or not, there is at least the understanding that a central defender was key to any potential recruitment.

3422570195.jpg

Nigel Adkins
As well as that, there is a severe lack of creativity in midfield, with very few options available with the ability to change a game, leaving, as things stand, the tenacious Billy Sharp forging chances for himself and putting them away. Put simply, there is an over-reliance on the striker. Goalscorers don't come cheap though, so bringing someone in as a provider would make sense.

Some might argue that making two signings wouldn't be enough, but being pragmatic, let's say it would make a big difference at least. However, a solution to neither of those problem areas has been found, at this stage anyway, hence the frustration and in many cases anger, expressed by Blades fans this morning. That's entirely understandable, even if some of the comments on social media were more than a little extreme. They have been in this division for too long already and the thought of having to spend another in League One fills everyone with dread.

However, with tin hat on stand by, let's look at things from a different point of view.

The loan window opens up again next week. Yes, I am well aware that this sounds like an easy way out of a discouraging situation, but I remain firmly in the belief that loan deals, involving the right player of course, are key to slightly longer-term thinking.

2233668652.jpg

Kevin McCabe and Jim Phipps
It's one thing buying players to get you out of League One, but what happens if they can't cut it in the Championship (if they were good enough there's a fair chance they'd already be there and playing regularly) and the club are left overloaded by players of little use, on big wages and therefore hard to get rid of? You would find it very difficult to approach a player of sufficient quality currently in this league and say 'we think you're good enough to get us up, but we'll only give you a one-year deal because we're not sure you're THAT good.'

Signing a player, short-term, on the fringes of a well-placed Championship team would make a lot more sense, though obviously even they are hard to come by.

As Jim Phipps has pointed out, the squad is already too big. Too many players have been brought in, some on good wages, and are therefore difficult to shift. It should be pointed out, and the club hierarchy will, or at least should, be in agreement, that the current regime more than played its part in making that so, but there has to be a cut off point at some stage and they have chosen it to be now. Again, frustrating from a fans' perspective, but unfortunately necessary nonetheless.

January transfer windows are also notoriously difficult to work within. The board have stated there is cash to spend, but it can't be a bottomless jar and there is Salary Cost Management Protocol to contend with. At this stage of the season transfer costs are much higher, because every signing comes with an element of panic. Players know this, or rather players' agents do, and the selling club knows it too. There are various other factors to acknowledge. If a player is under contract he could want paid up by his current club. There could be others whose contract is up soon who may think it better to hang tight and negotiate better wages when moving on a free transfer. All this and more makes any deal more difficult to get over the line.

Then, of course you have to factor in Sheffield United's stature. This might sound like a far-fetched comparison, but United are operating in a relatively similar way to the bigger Premier League clubs. If Juventus, for example, try to sign a player and Liverpool also make a bid, you can guarantee the fee quoted to the Merseyside club will be a lot higher than the Italians would be asked to pay. Put simply traders know where the money is. Similarly, if United and, taking a random example from the competition at the minute, Peterborough make a move for a particular player, there will be a noticeable difference in fees. Being the big fish comes with costs.

But the light of the loan window keeps the tunnel manageable, as have some performances this season that have shown, though not often enough, the capabilities of the current team. It's been a hugely frustrating month, on and off the pitch for United, but there is a long way to go and there is no reason to believe that promotion definitely can't be achieved. Even if that's by way of the play offs when a top two place was all but expected at the beginning of the season.


The comparisons re prices between us and Peterboro, how do we know that ?, half of time, the fees are not disclosed. Thanks for the words of wisdom from the local comic writer. Don't sign anyone, they might not be good enough in a higher division if we went up, OFFS. Still, why should Star give a fuck, their favourites are riding high in the championship, happy days for them.
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(Put it in a new thread so those interested can find it.)

OPINION: Sheffield United's transfer window - Frustrating? Yes. Disastrous? No

3965801462.jpg

Sheffield United manager Nigel Adkins

Let's get this straight from the off...Sheffield United fans have every right to be annoyed that transfer deadline day passed without the squad being strengthened.

It has been clear for the majority of this season so far that there are genuine weaknesses in personnel that needed to be addressed. Too many goals are being conceded, so whether Dan Burn of Fulham is capable of fixing that issue or not, there is at least the understanding that a central defender was key to any potential recruitment.

3422570195.jpg

Nigel Adkins
As well as that, there is a severe lack of creativity in midfield, with very few options available with the ability to change a game, leaving, as things stand, the tenacious Billy Sharp forging chances for himself and putting them away. Put simply, there is an over-reliance on the striker. Goalscorers don't come cheap though, so bringing someone in as a provider would make sense.

Some might argue that making two signings wouldn't be enough, but being pragmatic, let's say it would make a big difference at least. However, a solution to neither of those problem areas has been found, at this stage anyway, hence the frustration and in many cases anger, expressed by Blades fans this morning. That's entirely understandable, even if some of the comments on social media were more than a little extreme. They have been in this division for too long already and the thought of having to spend another in League One fills everyone with dread.

However, with tin hat on stand by, let's look at things from a different point of view.

The loan window opens up again next week. Yes, I am well aware that this sounds like an easy way out of a discouraging situation, but I remain firmly in the belief that loan deals, involving the right player of course, are key to slightly longer-term thinking.

2233668652.jpg

Kevin McCabe and Jim Phipps
It's one thing buying players to get you out of League One, but what happens if they can't cut it in the Championship (if they were good enough there's a fair chance they'd already be there and playing regularly) and the club are left overloaded by players of little use, on big wages and therefore hard to get rid of? You would find it very difficult to approach a player of sufficient quality currently in this league and say 'we think you're good enough to get us up, but we'll only give you a one-year deal because we're not sure you're THAT good.'

Signing a player, short-term, on the fringes of a well-placed Championship team would make a lot more sense, though obviously even they are hard to come by.

As Jim Phipps has pointed out, the squad is already too big. Too many players have been brought in, some on good wages, and are therefore difficult to shift. It should be pointed out, and the club hierarchy will, or at least should, be in agreement, that the current regime more than played its part in making that so, but there has to be a cut off point at some stage and they have chosen it to be now. Again, frustrating from a fans' perspective, but unfortunately necessary nonetheless.

January transfer windows are also notoriously difficult to work within. The board have stated there is cash to spend, but it can't be a bottomless jar and there is Salary Cost Management Protocol to contend with. At this stage of the season transfer costs are much higher, because every signing comes with an element of panic. Players know this, or rather players' agents do, and the selling club knows it too. There are various other factors to acknowledge. If a player is under contract he could want paid up by his current club. There could be others whose contract is up soon who may think it better to hang tight and negotiate better wages when moving on a free transfer. All this and more makes any deal more difficult to get over the line.

Then, of course you have to factor in Sheffield United's stature. This might sound like a far-fetched comparison, but United are operating in a relatively similar way to the bigger Premier League clubs. If Juventus, for example, try to sign a player and Liverpool also make a bid, you can guarantee the fee quoted to the Merseyside club will be a lot higher than the Italians would be asked to pay. Put simply traders know where the money is. Similarly, if United and, taking a random example from the competition at the minute, Peterborough make a move for a particular player, there will be a noticeable difference in fees. Being the big fish comes with costs.

But the light of the loan window keeps the tunnel manageable, as have some performances this season that have shown, though not often enough, the capabilities of the current team. It's been a hugely frustrating month, on and off the pitch for United, but there is a long way to go and there is no reason to believe that promotion definitely can't be achieved. Even if that's by way of the play offs when a top two place was all but expected at the beginning of the season.


Read more: http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foot...ing-yes-disastrous-no-1-7710602#ixzz3z2xnLvib
Fatso, you are one of the Worlds great healers, god bless you.

Saw the article earlier and taken literally it makes a lot of sense business wise. My only issues (like many) are [1] they (the board) could have avoided a lot of the crap by being up front and honest about their tactics from the start. They have, I'm afraid, brought most of it on themselves and for a bunch of smart folk, they should have known better.

[2], a week or so ago, the same journo here told us that "NA was pleased that there was no game, as it would allow him to concentrate 100% on the JTW" and "the club was looking to bring in two new players to strengthen the squad". He was so so wrong then and who's to say he's anymore 'in the know' here either.

As I've said, the tactics here make lot's of sense, so let's hope that this time around they are writing something based on some proper insight. Perhaps there is still scope to do some business with Fulham on a loan basis with an option to buy in the Summer? Moncur - no chance. He's off to Notts Forest in the summer.

Still think Morsy, however, was an error though. No money at all for someone who would have made a huge difference to our club. He's been wanting a move to the lane for 18 months (before Doyle left) and trust me, he would have walked here given half the chance.
 
(Put it in a new thread so those interested can find it.)

OPINION: Sheffield United's transfer window - Frustrating? Yes. Disastrous? No

3965801462.jpg

Sheffield United manager Nigel Adkins

Let's get this straight from the off...Sheffield United fans have every right to be annoyed that transfer deadline day passed without the squad being strengthened.

It has been clear for the majority of this season so far that there are genuine weaknesses in personnel that needed to be addressed. Too many goals are being conceded, so whether Dan Burn of Fulham is capable of fixing that issue or not, there is at least the understanding that a central defender was key to any potential recruitment.

3422570195.jpg

Nigel Adkins
As well as that, there is a severe lack of creativity in midfield, with very few options available with the ability to change a game, leaving, as things stand, the tenacious Billy Sharp forging chances for himself and putting them away. Put simply, there is an over-reliance on the striker. Goalscorers don't come cheap though, so bringing someone in as a provider would make sense.

Some might argue that making two signings wouldn't be enough, but being pragmatic, let's say it would make a big difference at least. However, a solution to neither of those problem areas has been found, at this stage anyway, hence the frustration and in many cases anger, expressed by Blades fans this morning. That's entirely understandable, even if some of the comments on social media were more than a little extreme. They have been in this division for too long already and the thought of having to spend another in League One fills everyone with dread.

However, with tin hat on stand by, let's look at things from a different point of view.

The loan window opens up again next week. Yes, I am well aware that this sounds like an easy way out of a discouraging situation, but I remain firmly in the belief that loan deals, involving the right player of course, are key to slightly longer-term thinking.

2233668652.jpg

Kevin McCabe and Jim Phipps
It's one thing buying players to get you out of League One, but what happens if they can't cut it in the Championship (if they were good enough there's a fair chance they'd already be there and playing regularly) and the club are left overloaded by players of little use, on big wages and therefore hard to get rid of? You would find it very difficult to approach a player of sufficient quality currently in this league and say 'we think you're good enough to get us up, but we'll only give you a one-year deal because we're not sure you're THAT good.'

Signing a player, short-term, on the fringes of a well-placed Championship team would make a lot more sense, though obviously even they are hard to come by.

As Jim Phipps has pointed out, the squad is already too big. Too many players have been brought in, some on good wages, and are therefore difficult to shift. It should be pointed out, and the club hierarchy will, or at least should, be in agreement, that the current regime more than played its part in making that so, but there has to be a cut off point at some stage and they have chosen it to be now. Again, frustrating from a fans' perspective, but unfortunately necessary nonetheless.

January transfer windows are also notoriously difficult to work within. The board have stated there is cash to spend, but it can't be a bottomless jar and there is Salary Cost Management Protocol to contend with. At this stage of the season transfer costs are much higher, because every signing comes with an element of panic. Players know this, or rather players' agents do, and the selling club knows it too. There are various other factors to acknowledge. If a player is under contract he could want paid up by his current club. There could be others whose contract is up soon who may think it better to hang tight and negotiate better wages when moving on a free transfer. All this and more makes any deal more difficult to get over the line.

Then, of course you have to factor in Sheffield United's stature. This might sound like a far-fetched comparison, but United are operating in a relatively similar way to the bigger Premier League clubs. If Juventus, for example, try to sign a player and Liverpool also make a bid, you can guarantee the fee quoted to the Merseyside club will be a lot higher than the Italians would be asked to pay. Put simply traders know where the money is. Similarly, if United and, taking a random example from the competition at the minute, Peterborough make a move for a particular player, there will be a noticeable difference in fees. Being the big fish comes with costs.

But the light of the loan window keeps the tunnel manageable, as have some performances this season that have shown, though not often enough, the capabilities of the current team. It's been a hugely frustrating month, on and off the pitch for United, but there is a long way to go and there is no reason to believe that promotion definitely can't be achieved. Even if that's by way of the play offs when a top two place was all but expected at the beginning of the season.


Read more: http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foot...ing-yes-disastrous-no-1-7710602#ixzz3z2xnLvib
Fatso, you are one of the Worlds great healers, god bless you.

Saw the article earlier and taken literally it makes a lot of sense business wise. My only issues (like many) are [1] they (the board) could have avoided a lot of the crap by being up front and honest about their tactics from the start. They have, I'm afraid, brought most of it on themselves and for a bunch of smart folk, they should have known better.

[2], a week or so ago, the same journo here told us that "NA was pleased that there was no game, as it would allow him to concentrate 100% on the JTW" and "the club was looking to bring in two new players to strengthen the squad". He was so so wrong then and who's to say he's anymore 'in the know' here either.

As I've said, the tactics here make lot's of sense, so let's hope that this time around they are writing something based on some proper insight. Perhaps there is still scope to do some business with Fulham on a loan basis with an option to buy in the Summer? Moncur - no chance. He's off to Notts Forest in the summer.

Still think Morsy, however, was an error though. No money at all for someone who would have made a huge difference to our club. He's been wanting a move to the lane for 18 months (before Doyle left) and trust me, he would have walked here given half the chance.
 
(Put it in a new thread so those interested can find it.)

OPINION: Sheffield United's transfer window - Frustrating? Yes. Disastrous? No

3965801462.jpg

Sheffield United manager Nigel Adkins

Let's get this straight from the off...Sheffield United fans have every right to be annoyed that transfer deadline day passed without the squad being strengthened.

It has been clear for the majority of this season so far that there are genuine weaknesses in personnel that needed to be addressed. Too many goals are being conceded, so whether Dan Burn of Fulham is capable of fixing that issue or not, there is at least the understanding that a central defender was key to any potential recruitment.

3422570195.jpg

Nigel Adkins
As well as that, there is a severe lack of creativity in midfield, with very few options available with the ability to change a game, leaving, as things stand, the tenacious Billy Sharp forging chances for himself and putting them away. Put simply, there is an over-reliance on the striker. Goalscorers don't come cheap though, so bringing someone in as a provider would make sense.

Some might argue that making two signings wouldn't be enough, but being pragmatic, let's say it would make a big difference at least. However, a solution to neither of those problem areas has been found, at this stage anyway, hence the frustration and in many cases anger, expressed by Blades fans this morning. That's entirely understandable, even if some of the comments on social media were more than a little extreme. They have been in this division for too long already and the thought of having to spend another in League One fills everyone with dread.

However, with tin hat on stand by, let's look at things from a different point of view.

The loan window opens up again next week. Yes, I am well aware that this sounds like an easy way out of a discouraging situation, but I remain firmly in the belief that loan deals, involving the right player of course, are key to slightly longer-term thinking.

2233668652.jpg

Kevin McCabe and Jim Phipps
It's one thing buying players to get you out of League One, but what happens if they can't cut it in the Championship (if they were good enough there's a fair chance they'd already be there and playing regularly) and the club are left overloaded by players of little use, on big wages and therefore hard to get rid of? You would find it very difficult to approach a player of sufficient quality currently in this league and say 'we think you're good enough to get us up, but we'll only give you a one-year deal because we're not sure you're THAT good.'

Signing a player, short-term, on the fringes of a well-placed Championship team would make a lot more sense, though obviously even they are hard to come by.

As Jim Phipps has pointed out, the squad is already too big. Too many players have been brought in, some on good wages, and are therefore difficult to shift. It should be pointed out, and the club hierarchy will, or at least should, be in agreement, that the current regime more than played its part in making that so, but there has to be a cut off point at some stage and they have chosen it to be now. Again, frustrating from a fans' perspective, but unfortunately necessary nonetheless.

January transfer windows are also notoriously difficult to work within. The board have stated there is cash to spend, but it can't be a bottomless jar and there is Salary Cost Management Protocol to contend with. At this stage of the season transfer costs are much higher, because every signing comes with an element of panic. Players know this, or rather players' agents do, and the selling club knows it too. There are various other factors to acknowledge. If a player is under contract he could want paid up by his current club. There could be others whose contract is up soon who may think it better to hang tight and negotiate better wages when moving on a free transfer. All this and more makes any deal more difficult to get over the line.

Then, of course you have to factor in Sheffield United's stature. This might sound like a far-fetched comparison, but United are operating in a relatively similar way to the bigger Premier League clubs. If Juventus, for example, try to sign a player and Liverpool also make a bid, you can guarantee the fee quoted to the Merseyside club will be a lot higher than the Italians would be asked to pay. Put simply traders know where the money is. Similarly, if United and, taking a random example from the competition at the minute, Peterborough make a move for a particular player, there will be a noticeable difference in fees. Being the big fish comes with costs.

But the light of the loan window keeps the tunnel manageable, as have some performances this season that have shown, though not often enough, the capabilities of the current team. It's been a hugely frustrating month, on and off the pitch for United, but there is a long way to go and there is no reason to believe that promotion definitely can't be achieved. Even if that's by way of the play offs when a top two place was all but expected at the beginning of the season.


Read more: http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foot...ing-yes-disastrous-no-1-7710602#ixzz3z2xnLvib
Fatso, you are one of the Worlds great healers, god bless you.

Saw the article earlier and taken literally it makes a lot of sense business wise. My only issues (like many) are [1] they (the board) could have avoided a lot of the crap by being up front and honest about their tactics from the start. They have, I'm afraid, brought most of it on themselves and for a bunch of smart folk, they should have known better.

[2], a week or so ago, the same journo here told us that "NA was pleased that there was no game, as it would allow him to concentrate 100% on the JTW" and "the club was looking to bring in two new players to strengthen the squad". He was so so wrong then and who's to say he's anymore 'in the know' here either.

As I've said, the tactics here make lot's of sense, so let's hope that this time around they are writing something based on some proper insight. Perhaps there is still scope to do some business with Fulham on a loan basis with an option to buy in the Summer? Moncur - no chance. He's off to Notts Forest in the summer.

Still think Morsy, however, was an error though. No money at all for someone who would have made a huge difference to our club. He's been wanting a move to the lane for 18 months (before Doyle left) and trust me, he would have walked here given half the chance.
 
91 day maximum loan during that window so tacking into account best case scenario and a play off final on 29th of May,..what's the earliest we can bring anyone in so they are available for that game.

Yes I am fully aware we have had these same conversations that last few years.
 
Sounds pretty reasonable to be honest. While it's disappointing not to have signed anyone at all and basically shows that the board and perhaps management have given up on this year there's still hope for next season. I know we hear that every year now but lets hope that they have formulated what they are planning to do in the summer and we can smash the league.
I feel sorry for Adkins, he probably thought getting us up would be easy. He's now in this mess after his career was going so well at Southampton. I hope the board give him another year to sort out this mess.
 
Sounds pretty reasonable to be honest. While it's disappointing not to have signed anyone at all and basically shows that the board and perhaps management have given up on this year there's still hope for next season. I know we hear that every year now but lets hope that they have formulated what they are planning to do in the summer and we can smash the league.
I feel sorry for Adkins, he probably thought getting us up would be easy. He's now in this mess after his career was going so well at Southampton. I hope the board give him another year to sort out this mess.

I don't hold out much for next season either.
 
Sounds pretty reasonable to be honest. While it's disappointing not to have signed anyone at all and basically shows that the board and perhaps management have given up on this year there's still hope for next season. I know we hear that every year now but lets hope that they have formulated what they are planning to do in the summer and we can smash the league.
On past form I'd guess they'll back Adkins in the summer to a level that will be unsustainable if we don't get promoted, sell one of our best players in the JTW because we're third behind Charlton and some carrot munching wurzel team who've got lucky, making them nervous about money, and then sack Adkins when we lose in the POF.
Then they'll moan about the previous regime as Russell Slade takes us to a spectacular mid table position.
 
the JTW had one good point
we unloaded and shrunk the squad

frustrating not getting anyone in, is putting it mildly, fecking annoying would be nearer the mark

but less inadequate,s to fall back on
 
So it's ok to go down the loan market route again something KM openly condemned past managers for using.
 



The fans have apparently been fed up with mediocre, average signings - and lots of them.

Adkins said he wanted to trim the squad and get in some quality.

Well, if that quality is not available, what the fuck do you expect Adkins to do? Get someone he doesn't really want? Buy average again just to appease fans?

No, he is waiting for the right players.

Adkins is trimming the squad which will continue in the summer.

Patience is a virtue, sadly, numerous on hear do not possess such attributes.

BTW - Sam Morsy - 1.75M and 79Kg (5' 7 1/2 and 12 Stones in old money) - TOO SMALL !!! Exactly what we already have and the majority agree is not needed in this division.

UTB
 
I read it's 26th of Feb

91 day maximum loan during that window so tacking into account best case scenario and a play off final on 29th of May,..what's the earliest we can bring anyone in so they are available for that game.

Yes I am fully aware we have had these same conversations that last few years.
 
the JTW had one good point
we unloaded and shrunk the squad

frustrating not getting anyone in, is putting it mildly, fecking annoying would be nearer the mark

but less inadequate,s to fall back on
That's only really a good point for those paying their wages. I couldn't give a shit whether they're training with the first team, training with the kids or playing for Donny. In fact, I'd have preferred Freeman to stay.
So basically we shipped out some kids, paid off Higdon (so we now go through a campaign where we hope to make the POF with only three senior strikers despite what has happened in play offs before) and got Wallace a loan (and who'll probably be sent back soon because his legs are fucked).
Fantastic. It's certainly one JTW I'll be telling the grandkids about.
 
The fans have apparently been fed up with mediocre, average signings - and lots of them.

Adkins said he wanted to trim the squad and get in some quality.

Well, if that quality is not available, what the fuck do you expect Adkins to do? Get someone he doesn't really want? Buy average again just to appease fans?

No, he is waiting for the right players.

Adkins is trimming the squad which will continue in the summer.

Patience is a virtue, sadly, numerous on hear do not possess such attributes.

BTW - Sam Morsy - 1.75M and 79Kg (5' 7 1/2 and 12 Stones in old money) - TOO SMALL !!! Exactly what we already have and the majority agree is not needed in this division.

UTB
I expected him and Turnbull to have identified some realistic and affordable targets and for the board to have managed to bring one or two of those in.
I don't think it's an unreasonable expectation.
 
The fans have apparently been fed up with mediocre, average signings - and lots of them.

Adkins said he wanted to trim the squad and get in some quality.

Well, if that quality is not available, what the fuck do you expect Adkins to do? Get someone he doesn't really want? Buy average again just to appease fans?

No, he is waiting for the right players.

Adkins is trimming the squad which will continue in the summer.

Patience is a virtue, sadly, numerous on hear do not possess such attributes.

BTW - Sam Morsy - 1.75M and 79Kg (5' 7 1/2 and 12 Stones in old money) - TOO SMALL !!! Exactly what we already have and the majority agree is not needed in this division.

UTB

You're really pushing the line that there are no quality players available and it's simply down to fan impatience that we've signed ZERO players into a squad the manager admitted wasn't good enough?

Time to wake up.
 
That's only really a good point for those paying their wages. I couldn't give a shit whether they're training with the first team, training with the kids or playing for Donny. In fact, I'd have preferred Freeman to stay.
So basically we shipped out some kids, paid off Higdon (so we now go through a campaign where we hope to make the POF with only three senior strikers despite what has happened in play offs before) and got Wallace a loan (and who'll probably be sent back soon because his legs are fucked).
Fantastic. It's certainly one JTW I'll be telling the grandkids about.
9 HAVE DEPARTED SINCE JAN 1ST
we are nearly the full Portsmouth first team
 
BTW - Sam Morsy - 1.75M and 79Kg (5' 7 1/2 and 12 Stones in old money) - TOO SMALL !!! Exactly what we already have and the majority agree is not needed in this division.

Yes Fulwood but he's a name that people have heard of. I heard his name on the radio once and someone else has bought him! It stands to reason that he would therefore be our seasons savior, and he scores 1 goal in 16 games on average!

It doesn't matter one jot that Adkins didn't want him because owing to his diminutive stature he doesn't fit in with the big strong 1st division team that Adkins is trying to build!

The failure to sign Morsy proves the manager and the board are hopeless, clueless oafs and that is all that is needed!

Wake up Fulwood and smell the Bovril! :eek:
 
I am the first to admit that I was really disappointed that we didn't sign anyone in the JTW, if only Dan Burn. After thinking a little longer and reading NA comments, I then remember a recent post of mine that suggested we might need different players to get us promoted to the type needed in the Championship. I recommended (I think) signing big "thugs" to bully our way out of this division, then recruiting better footballers for the higher division.
By recruiting using loan players this season, we can get the "thugs" without having them stuck on our wage bill for next year and beyond. If we loan better footballers too, we can see how they perform for us before we spend good money for them.

The suggestion above helps to keep the squad numbers down for next year too as we can discard the loan players that are not up to the grade for our progression. We will also save funds for the higher standard purchases we need play next year.
 
What bothers me is the impact of no new players coming in and what's left of the squad being told the cull is only 1/3 of the way through. This will either galvanise motivation or, more likely, sap what little there was. Mid-table now. Let's hope we don't slide into the drop zone as a result. Gave up on promotion a long time ago I am afraid.
 
On past form I'd guess they'll back Adkins in the summer to a level that will be unsustainable if we don't get promoted, sell one of our best players in the JTW because we're third behind Charlton and some carrot munching wurzel team who've got lucky, making them nervous about money, and then sack Adkins when we lose in the POF.
Then they'll moan about the previous regime as Russell Slade takes us to a spectacular mid table position.
To be fair to Russel Slade, he's had to cut the budget at Cardiff and they've done better since he's been there. He's not a bad manager, almost got Leyton Orient up.
 
The fans have apparently been fed up with mediocre, average signings - and lots of them.

Adkins said he wanted to trim the squad and get in some quality.

Well, if that quality is not available, what the fuck do you expect Adkins to do? Get someone he doesn't really want? Buy average again just to appease fans?

No, he is waiting for the right players.

Adkins is trimming the squad which will continue in the summer.

Patience is a virtue, sadly, numerous on hear do not possess such attributes.

BTW - Sam Morsy - 1.75M and 79Kg (5' 7 1/2 and 12 Stones in old money) - TOO SMALL !!! Exactly what we already have and the majority agree is not needed in this division.

UTB

"...BTW - Sam Morsy - 1.75M and 79Kg (5' 7 1/2 and 12 Stones in old money) - TOO SMALL..."

Almost five foot nine, I agree not tall enough, but that extra inch always helps.......;)
 
To be fair to Russel Slade, he's had to cut the budget at Cardiff and they've done better since he's been there. He's not a bad manager, almost got Leyton Orient up.
I hope you're joking.
 



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