Outgoing? Che Adams

[Smirth]

Shock, a 19 year old who's had just over a year in the professional game isn't an established first team member.

Still, he's shown patches of quality but hey £2 or £3 million is too good money to turn down. How about looking to the future, if he develops in time and matures as a player, which he will do as he's very inexperienced, he could go on to become worth a lot more. I highly doubt it would happen but I live in hope. If anybody has offered £2 million he'll be gone, no doubt about it, we sold a better, more important player in Murphy for less.

This club will never progress whilst it sells it's most valuable assets. Granted, Che isn't a first team regular, but he's still an asset with real potential - why else would other teams be interested in him? If he's sold I'll be just as pissed off as I was about Blackman, Maguire and Murphy.

 

[Classof85]

It is all a sign of football is no longer a sport its a business and as with any business the books have got to be balanced. As with any business if you need to balance them you get the best value for your saleable assets
ill
3 million for a player that has achieve nothing in the game thus far and on current form doesn't look like he will so it makes good business

 

[Revolution]

It is all a sign of football is no longer a sport its a business and as with any business the books have got to be balanced. As with any business if you need to balance them you get the best value for your saleable assets
ill
3 million for a player that has achieve nothing in the game thus far and on current form doesn't look like he will so it makes good business

Thanks Kevin.

 

[Smirth]

It is all a sign of football is no longer a sport its a business and as with any business the books have got to be balanced. As with any business if you need to balance them you get the best value for your saleable assets
ill
3 million for a player that has achieve nothing in the game thus far and on current form doesn't look like he will so it makes good business

And it's exactly that sort of attitude which has meant we've become an established League 1 club now. Constantly justifying the sale of our better players at the first sniff of interest. I wonder when the last time we actually turned a bid down for a player was?

I get you need to balance your books but sometimes you need to take a risk with players and just see if they develop further. If they do then it's win-win for us as we have a good player who helps us achieve our goals and they become worth more money. If they don't, then we didn't sell them at the optimum time but we will still find a way to get by.

 

[Caveblade]

Like last January? When "nothing happened"? Apart from signing Brayford. Coutts. Freeman. Done?
I don't know why some people are incapable of grasping this straightforward fact and keep saying we never sign anyone in the transfer window.

Last January is an absolutely fine reposte to my post and I do grasp it, however it is very much the exception during KM'S reign. My feel is we have returned to the norm and I doubt very much we will see that kind of investment this window despite the promises re the Murphy monies. We retain the defensive frailties that we created with the sale of Maguire, which is why we are still a mid table third tier club. I would love to be proved wrong Newbury.

 

[S5Blade]

Last January is an absolutely fine reposte to my post and I do grasp it, however it is very much the exception during KM'S reign. My feel is we have returned to the norm and I doubt very much we will see that kind of investment this window despite the promises re the Murphy monies. We retain the defensive frailties that we created the sale of Maguire, which is why we are still a mid table third tier club. I would love to be proved wrong Newbury.

Mid table would be 9th - 16th, In our entire time in league one, we average 5th place. Give us some credit

 

[Caveblade]

Mid table would be 9th - 16th, In our entire time in league one, we average 5th place. Give us some credit

I think the play offs distort views of what is average or mid table, for an old fart like me 7th feels distinctly average and mid table.

I will reword it, "not consistent or good enough to get promoted"

 

[grafikhaus]

Think mixing with the young England lads and finding out how much they were on has done his head in, remember he came back with a mystery illness, didn't play, a shadow of his early promise..... Could be that...

Or, it could be that, like Peterborough fans are disappointed but not suicidal that Conor Washington has left (ditto Delle Ali from MKD), Unitedites seem to think that Che will continue on the same upward trajectory and promise he showed when he first arrived. He won't. Not only is this near- impossible in the Third Division, the players he's surrounded with are hardly likely to show his true strengths. (and why PL or Championship fringe players won't come here on loan).

Get as much as possible and let him go. He won't improve under the current set-up. It's only being fair.

 

[Newbury Blade]

Last January is an absolutely fine reposte to my post and I do grasp it, however it is very much the exception during KM'S reign. My feel is we have returned to the norm and I doubt very much we will see that kind of investment this window despite the promises re the Murphy monies. We retain the defensive frailties that we created with the sale of Maguire, which is why we are still a mid table third tier club. I would love to be proved wrong Newbury.

We'll see. I will be very surprised if we don't make at least one decent signing in the next 10 days, plus a couple more moving out.

 

[kop_blade9]

Do you know what it was he got disciplined for a bit back? Was left out one week by Adkins as a punishment for summat, never did hear what it was.

I think there was a death in the family, Dad?, and it knocked his head so he didn't have much enthusiasm for playing football.

 

[Bartleby]

I think there was a death in the family, Dad?, and it knocked his head so he didn't have much enthusiasm for playing football.

Just looked it up - according to the Star it was the away game at Burton he missed in September due to "a breach of club discipline" and "Adkins refused to divulge details" but "confirmed it took place following Saturday's victory over Doncaster Rovers". He also said it was "a minor thing" so hopefully not out on the lash scrapping in Edinburgh night clubs or owt like that.

 

[S5Blade]

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

John Rambo
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JOHN RAMBO

 

[robbiez666]

I think there was a death in the family, Dad?, and it knocked his head so he didn't have much enthusiasm for playing football.

I think there was another occasion as well when he (allegedly) went out for a friend's birthday and turned up for training late and worse for wear.

 

[UnitedBlade]

I think there was another occasion as well when he (allegedly) went out for a friend's birthday and turned up for training late and worse for wear.

It was McGahey's birthday in Nottingham wasn't it ?

McGahey was seen in the Northern General with a hand injury past the time that Adkins was doing his post match briefing on the Sunday.

They never said for sure but I presume Adams was late and maybe smelling of booze.

He wasn't in the 18 for the Burton game, so effectively was suspended for one game.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

McCormack to Middlesbrough

Che Adams to Fulham

Dan Burn to SUFC

What would people think to that chain of events?

(McCormack has caught Beattie Flu and is out of their squad for tomorrow)

 

[Superblades]

McCormack to Middlesbrough

Che Adams to Fulham

Dan Burn to SUFC

What would people think to that chain of events?

(McCormack has caught Beattie Flu and is out of their squad for tomorrow)

I would be happy with that, we desperately need a CB.

 

[beatific blade]

The Sun (I know...) reckon Bournemouth, Southampton and Man City are after young Che

 

[DorsetSUFC]

I would like to see to Bournemuff for £2m + Shaun Macdonald!!

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Selling him would be a huge gamble, staking it against the fitness of Billy.

 

[blade too long]

Selling him would be a huge gamble, staking it against the fitness of Billy.

could always recall mcnulty

 

[robbiez666]

Selling him would be a huge gamble, staking it against the fitness of Billy.

I don't understand why. Che's not a player (at the moment at least) who we can rely on to consistently perform in games

 

[LoughboroBlade]

could always recall mcnulty

No recall unless it's an emergency loan I believe.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

could always recall mcnulty

Could if you rate him yes.

 

[blade too long]

Could if you rate him yes.

in an emergency I meant

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

I don't understand why. Che's not a player (at the moment at least) who we can rely on to consistently perform in games

Young players whom you can rely on to do that play at a much higher level. He has talent and on his day can win football matches. He can do that now and will get better.

If we end up reaching the playoffs we will need someone to win a game for us. If Che goes, let's hope Billy is fit and available.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

in an emergency I meant

As far as I know he's at Pompey for the season now and I haven't heard anything about a recall clause. Could be wrong.

That aside, emergencies have been a speciality of ours that have never got us anywhere. Pretend Beattie and Will Hoskins immediately spring to mind.

 

[blade too long]

As far as I know he's at Pompey for the season now and I haven't heard anything about a recall clause. Could be wrong.

That aside, emergencies have been a speciality of ours that have never got us anywhere. Pretend Beattie and Will Hoskins immediately spring to mind.

difference would be mcnulty would be match fit

 

[Liaminho9]

No recall unless it's an emergency loan I believe.

All depends on the clauses agreed by either party, doesn't have to be an emergency loan - though i have no idea what our circumstances are.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

All depends on the clauses agreed by either party, doesn't have to be an emergency loan - though i have no idea what our circumstances are.

I thought I'd check so that we both know for sure – I'm afraid as this is a standard loan (I.e. Not in the emergency loan window) there is no recall clause. I've underlined the key bits.

The following bit of information interpreting 53.2.3 might come as a rather big shock to people too: if we are in the playoffs, and Pompey are not, McNulty is still not able to play for us.

53.2 Standard Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 52.2, Standard Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with following provisions:

53.2.1 Standard Loans shall be allowed to or from Clubs (or, as applicable, clubs) in membership of The Football League, The Premier League, The Football Conference, Northern Premier League, Isthmian League and Southern League providing the rules and regulations of the respective leagues so allow.

53.2.2 Subject to the proviso that the duration of a Standard Loan must be the time between two Transfer Windows, Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season. Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window. Any other early termination of a Standard Loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing (including by way of a recall clause within the Standard Loan Agreement) between both Clubs and the Player but can only be completed after the expiry of 28 days and only during a Transfer Window (but subject to Regulation 53.2.3 below).

53.2.3 A Player whose Standard Loan expires (or terminates) on completion of his Loaning Club's League Matches will not be eligible to play for his Parent Club (where it is a Member Club) in any remaining League Matches in that Season notwithstanding the fact that he is a Registered Player of that Club and that such expiry or termination occurs during a Transfer Window.

53.2.4 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 53.2.2, a Standard Loan of a goalkeeper (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause exercisable at any time. Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of The League, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in The League's absolute discretion. A goalkeeper shall not be permitted to resume any Standard Loan following the exercise of a recall.

53.2.5 No more than 2 Players who are over 23 may join one Loaning Club from another Parent Club on a Standard Loan in any Season.

53.2.6 Standard Loans which subsequently become permanent transfers (which can occur any time during the period of the Standard Loan) shall not count against a Club's quota of such Standard Loans for that Season.
Read more at http://www.football-league.co.uk/global/section6.aspx#SkVPVR74gDQcp5RE.99