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This is why most managers prefer experienced senior players; because kids often have dips in form and make mistakes, part of the learning process. If one wants to see kids being brought through, one has to accept sometimes things like this will happen.
 
If the lad was the finished article at 19 years old, he wouldn't be at Sheffield United.

He's had a dip in form of late, and the sending off was a shame, but it happens. Still plenty to come from Che if he puts the work in.
 
TomJonesBlade said:
If the lad was the finished article at 19 years old, he wouldn't be at Sheffield United.

He's had a dip in form of late, and the sending off was a shame, but it happens. Still plenty to come from Che if he puts the work in.
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Key quote being " if he puts the work in"
Fucking Hell dont get me wrong here I really want him to succeed we are well overdue for another hero at the Lane
 
Lane Ender said:
Key quote being " if he puts the work in"
Fucking Hell dont get me wrong here I really want him to succeed we are well overdue for another hero at the Lane
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Don't jump on his back then. He's a young lad that will make stupid decisions and at times play absolutely awfully - It's all part of growing up, in and out of football.
 
Red card not to be appealed so misses next 3. From Andy Crosby via Rob Staton.
 
Jehovah said:
Red card not to be appealed so misses next 3. From Andy Crosby via Rob Staton.
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Was it worth appealing as I haven't seen it yet but I've spoke to a couple of people who said it looked harsh, they did admit though that they didn't see the full incident themselves?
 
wizadry said:
Was it worth appealing as I haven't seen it yet but I've spoke to a couple of people who said it looked harsh, they did admit though that they didn't see the full incident themselves?
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Video missed the key point so too risky for an additional game's ban, I suppose.
 
Lane Ender said:
Lot of questions to be asked of him at the moment
Needs to pick it up if he's to progress
He's going backwards just now
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He's still very young to be having so much pressure put on him and in reality, as a development player, he's only getting so much game time because the rest of the squad are so shit and we've not replaced departed players like Murphy. ( Woolford cannot be classed as a replacement, just a drain on the wage bill ).

UTB & FTP
 
wizadry said:
So the panel would agree with the ref then. Good decision not to appeal. Cheers 'btw'.
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Yep. Unless you're Cardiff or Swansea and you're appealing to the Welsh FA, our FA will always side with the ref except when video evidence is entirely conclusive.
 
I think Adams apologized on Twitter straight after so it would seem even he accepted he'd been daft.
 



Lane Ender said:
Lot of questions to be asked of him at the moment
Needs to pick it up if he's to progress
He's going backwards just now
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Agree.

He's a 'big time Charlie' who's not as good as he [and too many on here] think he is.

Prospect, yes a good prospect but at what level - yet to be determined.

A long way to go and he needs to pick it up. Apart from scoring he hasn't as yet developed an all round game. If he doesn't score, his overall contribution is poor.

Needs to spend less time in the clubs and bars here in Sheffield and over in Nottingham, and a lot more time on the training pitch.
 
longinthe toothblade said:
Agree.

He's a 'big time Charlie' who's not as good as he [and too many on here] think he is.

Prospect, yes a good prospect but at what level - yet to be determined.

A long way to go and he needs to pick it up. Apart from scoring he hasn't as yet developed an all round game. If he doesn't score, his overall contribution is poor.

Needs to spend less time in the clubs and bars here in Sheffield and over in Nottingham, and a lot more time on the training pitch.
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How on earth have you come to this conclusion? At what point did he become a 'big time Charlie'? From everything I've seen & heard from him, he's a hard working level headed character who understands he's still learning his trade. You sure you're not thinking about Baxter or McNulty?

"A long way to go and he needs to pick it up. Apart from scoring he hasn't as yet developed an all round game. If he doesn't score, his overall contribution is poor."

This is the biggest load of shit I've ever read on this forum. Aside from the fact Che has played a TOTAL of 32 professional games of football (league & cup... Some of those being as a substitute), he's currently our second highest goal scorer whilst being played, out of position, as a winger. You cannot expect a 19 year old with less than a season of professional football to have 'developed an all round game'.

Che is potentially the best young player we've had on our books since Walker & Naughton. He needs support from our coaching & development staff as well as from the terraces to properly progress as a footballer & people lambasting him for not having an 'all round game' at 19 is rediculous.
 
In the closed season, we needed a new winger. What happened was that we sold Murphy, meaning we needed two wingers, and brought in Woolford, who can't make it near the side.

We all knew that Adams was likely to be inconsistent and that we didn't want to rely on a youth from Ilkeston to play at his best every week and yet that's exactly what we've ended up doing.

Let's not take it out on a young player for doing what plenty of young players do.
 
SwitchBLADE Smiles said:
How on earth have you come to this conclusion? At what point did he become a 'big time Charlie'? From everything I've seen & heard from him, he's a hard working level headed character who understands he's still learning his trade. You sure you're not thinking about Baxter or McNulty?

"A long way to go and he needs to pick it up. Apart from scoring he hasn't as yet developed an all round game. If he doesn't score, his overall contribution is poor."

This is the biggest load of shit I've ever read on this forum. Aside from the fact Che has played a TOTAL of 32 professional games of football (league & cup... Some of those being as a substitute), he's currently our second highest goal scorer whilst being played, out of position, as a winger. You cannot expect a 19 year old with less than a season of professional football to have 'developed an all round game'.

Che is potentially the best young player we've had on our books since Walker & Naughton. He needs support from our coaching & development staff as well as from the terraces to properly progress as a footballer & people lambasting him for not having an 'all round game' at 19 is rediculous.
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SwitchBLADE Smiles said:
How on earth have you come to this conclusion? At what point did he become a 'big time Charlie'? From everything I've seen & heard from him, he's a hard working level headed character who understands he's still learning his trade. You sure you're not thinking about Baxter or McNulty?

"A long way to go and he needs to pick it up. Apart from scoring he hasn't as yet developed an all round game. If he doesn't score, his overall contribution is poor."

This is the biggest load of shit I've ever read on this forum. Aside from the fact Che has played a TOTAL of 32 professional games of football (league & cup... Some of those being as a substitute), he's currently our second highest goal scorer whilst being played, out of position, as a winger. You cannot expect a 19 year old with less than a season of professional football to have 'developed an all round game'.

Che is potentially the best young player we've had on our books since Walker & Naughton. He needs support from our coaching & development staff as well as from the terraces to properly progress as a footballer & people lambasting him for not having an 'all round game' at 19 is rediculous.
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SwitchBLADE Smiles said:
How on earth have you come to this conclusion? At what point did he become a 'big time Charlie'? From everything I've seen & heard from him, he's a hard working level headed character who understands he's still learning his trade. You sure you're not thinking about Baxter or McNulty?

"A long way to go and he needs to pick it up. Apart from scoring he hasn't as yet developed an all round game. If he doesn't score, his overall contribution is poor."

This is the biggest load of shit I've ever read on this forum. Aside from the fact Che has played a TOTAL of 32 professional games of football (league & cup... Some of those being as a substitute), he's currently our second highest goal scorer whilst being played, out of position, as a winger. You cannot expect a 19 year old with less than a season of professional football to have 'developed an all round game'.

Che is potentially the best young player we've had on our books since Walker & Naughton. He needs support from our coaching & development staff as well as from the terraces to properly progress as a footballer & people lambasting him for not having an 'all round game' at 19 is rediculous.
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Sorry for that my mouse attacked me.

Have to say that if you think it's "the biggest load of shit" you've ever read on this forum, you haven't been giving it much of a whirl so far.

Firstly, I'm not saying he's a bad player at all. What I actually said was, "he's a good prospect" but he's got some distance to go and some developing to do - particularly so of his all round contribution including, his support for other players. I suppose I was also questioning what level he'll finish up at, and I suppose of that only time will tell.

One thing is for sure, as a young player hopefully on the way up he needs to have the right people around him, he needs to employ the right attitude and he needs to apply himself 100%, all of the time. I hear / understand [from some 'night people' here and in Nottingham] that in relation to this aspect of his life there is room for improvement, 19 or otherwise. Didn't Adkins not play him a few weeks back for a breach of rules regarding drinking?

Goals yes, it's a reasonable ratio [although 2nd highest out of a pretty poor lot doesn't amount to a hill of beans]. This seasons total is thus far ok, but nothing to get overly excited about. I think it's 7 so far and as he's bagged a brace twice, I think he's therefore scored in 5 games - don't know how many starts he's had, you can no doubts tell me? I know he hasn't scored in something like the last six which is a disappointment. At the same time, his overall contribution to the game [IMO] has been short of where it needs to be - winger or otherwise.

Anyways, lets hope that he does become the player he can be and let's hope the board don't sell him to Tottenham in the meantime eh.
 
TomJonesBlade said:
If the lad was the finished article at 19 years old, he wouldn't be at Sheffield United.

He's had a dip in form of late, and the sending off was a shame, but it happens. Still plenty to come from Che if he puts the work in.
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To be fair it wasn't a red card looked more like an accidental collision
 
loyalblade95 said:
To be fair it wasn't a red card looked more like an accidental collision
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Not that bothered about the red card shit happens.
I just want him to do well
We know hes got pace,goes past players and can finish.
It's a short life a footballers this is league one he needs to commit himself 100%
or he could drift into obscurity and that would be a shame.
 
Lane Ender said:
Lot of questions to be asked of him at the moment
Needs to pick it up if he's to progress
He's going backwards just now
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I agree with the principle of what you're saying, he's not doing enough at the moment.

However, a quick scan through the other posts and many are right, give him a chance as he's still fresh. Sometimes hitting the headlines from your first few games can be a double edged sword. It becomes the norm/ expectation.

I do think that he's not being handled brilliantly too. We should've expected a few little issues off the pitch but we should also give him chance to settle into the side/ fight for his place and not have his confidence knocked too much along the way

Sad thing is that at the moment there is nobody better to come in.

Perhaps his break for three games will help him refocus
 
SwissBlade said:
I agree with the principle of what you're saying, he's not doing enough at the moment.

However, a quick scan through the other posts and many are right, give him a chance as he's still fresh. Sometimes hitting the headlines from your first few games can be a double edged sword. It becomes the norm/ expectation.

I do think that he's not being handled brilliantly too. We should've expected a few little issues off the pitch but we should also give him chance to settle into the side/ fight for his place and not have his confidence knocked too much along the way

Sad thing is that at the moment there is nobody better to come in.

Perhaps his break for three games will help him refocus
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Little bit of time on the bench maybe- impact option
 
Lane Ender said:
Little bit of time on the bench maybe- impact option
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Yeah, but who is there, really that can play on the left side, even JCR is injured, Woolford is shite and unless Done plays the wing, then it leaves Adams being the only other player with pace.

If Adkins is sensible he'll start playing freeman down the right midfield
 



longinthe toothblade said:
Agree.

He's a 'big time Charlie' who's not as good as he [and too many on here] think he is.

Prospect, yes a good prospect but at what level - yet to be determined.

A long way to go and he needs to pick it up. Apart from scoring he hasn't as yet developed an all round game. If he doesn't score, his overall contribution is poor.

Needs to spend less time in the clubs and bars here in Sheffield and over in Nottingham, and a lot more time on the training pitch.
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Harsh words but true I'm afraid.
 
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