Diego off

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Quite possibly, but then that sounds like the bluff scenario I posited - he thinks United will come running after him.

I suspect a young man who believes rather too much in his own legend.

I don't read it like that Darren - I think he has the face on and it's not about the money
 



I don't read it like that Darren - I think he has the face on and it's not about the money

Would even someone aged 19 be that stupid and be left without a club come the summer? I doubt it. My inkling is if United stand firm he will come crawling back...
 
I suspect that the other option Darren is that he may sign for somebody like Juve (on the strength of his U18 Italy exploits) and maybe get loaned out to a Serie B side or similar. Can't see him signing for the likes of Southampton and getting much of a chance to play - that scenario makes no logical sense.

If his beef is about lack of opportunities to play for the first team then it's a strange one as nobody higher up the pyramid is likely to sign him and put him in their first team straight-away. Others in our division and below will struggle to pay the level of compo for an unproven youngster. Seems more likely that he has got his nose put out by somebody at the club telling him he isn't better than what's in front of him (Porter, Higdon, McNuts, Baxter) etc, and he has thrown the baby out with the bath water.

If he doesn't want to stay and fight for a place on merit, then - Fuck 'im

To play devils advocate and look at both sides, if its football related.

Diego Camp - perhaps he thinks he's worthy of a first team chance and thinks that SUFC have wrapped him in cotton wool too much (you know, after a career threatening injury and that) and he just wants to be given that chance to show what he can do if he had a run in the First team. His argument being that he's proved what he can do at international level for his age group, so the chance in a league 1 first team would be no issue for him.

He proved at York City that he can grab goals even with the limited opportunities he had in the short time he was there. He proved against Preston that he can cope with the physicality in this division and playing off a striker.

If he can't get the guarantees at United then he could go to someone like Southampton, get out on loan for a while, no doubt to the Championship, so a step up from United and he could then get back to Saints and train with Premier League players and push for the first team.

United Camp - Young lad, pushed back in his opportunities due to a career threatening injury, so treated with lots of care, brought in slowly last season and this season farmed out to a local side to get games and see how he copes as a first team player.

Put up against new young signings at the club, he's not quite there, players like Che Adams, Kieren Freeman, Scoogs and McNulty all ahead of him, but giving him more chances over the next year or two he could be pushing for a starting place alongside these youngsters as he learns the game. Currently he has to play where there are gaps, not necessarily in his favoured position but he can learn the game better and work on his defensive duties he can be a real star along with the other lads in the team


I think the question that United needed to ask and answer was 'is he the best player we've got and worth keeping at all costs?' The answer to the question being no...
 
My guess is that people care because his name is Diego De Girolamo and he has scored a few goals at youth level. If his name was Derek Diggle, he would be just another youngster with potential along with a few others. And if he was Derek Diggle and he didn't make it in football, perhaps a career in films, eh Darren?;)
I'm not sure I agree, but have a like for "Derek Diggle".

:)

UTB
 
Clough comments:

"We've got Matt Done who has come in and Marc McNulty is a better player than Diego and he can't get on at the moment,"

Clough must rate McNulty very highly compared to Diego
 
I honestly couldn't care less if he's off. We know how we'll cope without him as he's barely ever played for us. I don't think it makes a difference if this is about money or about playing time. If he doesn't want to play for us, let him go, it's his choice. We need to concentrate on getting out of this division with the players we are actually picking.

If he turns out to be a superstar in a few years time, I'll console myself with the fact he would never have developed like that at BDTBL anyway, otherwise he would have already. I imagine Kennedy, Reed and Maguire all had much better attitudes and thus got more game time.
 
It comes to something when (I imagine) a lot of people would be more happy to see De Girolamo sign a new contract than they were when Murphy did.
 
A lad of Diego's pace and physique can only prosper by being exceptionally talented or having an exceptional knack for goal scoring.

He seems quite talented, and has quite a good scoring record in his limited career to date.

Could turn out to be an unfortunate move for either side. But as it stands, I know where my money is.
 
It comes to something when (I imagine) a lot of people would be more happy to see De Girolamo sign a new contract than they were when Murphy did.
Nonsense - it's a debate about one of the most talked about youngsters to come through the academy for many years who happens to be a forward player in a regime that bloods youngsters and is renowned for it.

Murphy is one of our top players and if there were rumblings of him not signing a contract I'd guarantee threads as long as yer arm
 
Would even someone aged 19 be that stupid and be left without a club come the summer? I doubt it. My inkling is if United stand firm he will come crawling back...
Would even someone aged 19 be stupid enough to try to call Clough's bluff?! ;)
 



No, but his Dad might
What is all this smoke and mirrors with his Dad? I've read a few things where people claim to be a bit ITK about Papa DG - some saying he wants his lad to stick around and not become another Jordan Slew and others suggesting he's sticking his oar in to engineer a move. So which is it?
 
Nonsense - it's a debate about one of the most talked about youngsters to come through the academy for many years who happens to be a forward player in a regime that bloods youngsters and is renowned for it.

Murphy is one of our top players and if there were rumblings of him not signing a contract I'd guarantee threads as long as yer arm
Fair point, but the point being that there are much more important things to this football club that get talked about much less. I think most agree on this now though.
 
The way I see it is that the club have maybe made an error here. They certainly want to keep him, but due to various reasons evidently can't persuade the lad. Was this unavoidable? We'll probably never know and mostly likely it was not. Clough has done little wrong here in a the development of a young player.

The circumstances are that he wasn't ready for the first team at any point in his career and other players have been ahead of him. Meanwhile, a bad injury set him back somewhat and meant that for another season, he was unable to get near the first team.

Now, he can either stay at the Lane and go out on loan to York (with potential for similar moves next season). Our manager clearly doesn't rate Diego highly enough right now to provide him with confidence that he'll be in around the first team next season.

Meanwhile, there are likely some bigger clubs circling. They're offering big wages and big dreams. And so what if he doesn't get in their sides, he'll be on loan and in the same position as he is at United, but with more money in his pocket and with potentially better development teams.

We can whinge about his attitude, we can whinge about his dad, we can even whinge about United. But absolutely no one in this situation is doing anything that most of us wouldn't.

Diego - more money and bigger club.
Dad - more money and bigger club for his son.
United - no space in the team for him. not going to guarantee a place for anyone.

If anything, the original contract we put together was an error if we didn't put a year's option in there like Clough intoned there was, but Dimiao Snr denied.

Real shame all round, but difficult to apportion blame. Of course, if he ends up somewhere like fucking Bournemouth, he's a fool.

*shrug*
 
Nice to see Nigel continuing his campaign to publicly humiliate this lad in his latest interview. McNulty is probably better than Diego at the minute, but does he have to make that statement on radio. I saw enough in his last appearance for us against PNE to show that he definitely has something, but all he has been given is the odd game here, 10 minutes there etc. Obviously a clash of personalities but with NG the Manager there is, short term, only going to be one winner.
 
Read a few of his Tweets a couple of weeks ago when news of the unrest started to crop up. He seems to me to want to be a 'Footballer' and not actually get his head down and play football, if that makes sense. Thanking 'his' Sponsors, travelling to Italy, playing the role of the biggun but not being there yet / if ever.

Seems to me he likes the idea of 'Diego, the Italian footballer' even if he's not really him, yet.
 
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Read a few of his Tweets a couple of weeks ago when news of the unrest started to crop up.... Thanking 'his' Sponsors
I don't normally go in for too much twitter-scrutiny but I clocked that tweet about his sponsors and immediately thought "who the fuck is this kid?" - I was quite surprised by my own response but I guess I've already dismissed him as a "non-believer" :rolleyes:
 
Nice to see Nigel continuing his campaign to publicly humiliate this lad in his latest interview. McNulty is probably better than Diego at the minute, but does he have to make that statement on radio. I saw enough in his last appearance for us against PNE to show that he definitely has something, but all he has been given is the odd game here, 10 minutes there etc. Obviously a clash of personalities but with NG the Manager there is, short term, only going to be one winner.
Publicly humiliate? Clough was answering a question on why he's not playing and stated that McNulty is a better player, which I don't doubt. McNulty is a very decent player and will get better and better, probably because he listens and works hard as well as having talent
 
I don't normally go in for too much twitter-scrutiny but I clocked that tweet about his sponsors and immediately thought "who the fuck is this kid?" - I was quite surprised by my own response but I guess I've already dismissed him as a "non-believer" :rolleyes:

My thoughts exactly.
 
Bit unnecessary to comment like that though.

I would be using terms like "further forward in his development" rather than "better player".

Looks like things have moved past any point of no return on this one. Agree with Houso (brings me out in a rash saying that), just a set of circumstances that have led to a poor outcome for all.

PS. Was a response to Swiss' post but didn't quote him directly.
 
Meh. With competition being what it is in this large squad, players have to adapt to get a look in, particularly with the system we play. It was fairly clear from his interview to the York press that he doesn't feel he needs to adapt. He plays a certain way so it's up to the manager to play him appropriately - rather than he's going to knuckle down and try and impress in whatever opportunity handed to him. For me that was a warning sign that he wasn't right for the club as it currently is - he may be a success elsewhere, and so be it.
 
Bit unnecessary to comment like that though.

I would be using terms like "further forward in his development" rather than "better player".

Looks like things have moved past any point of no return on this one. Agree with Houso (brings me out in a rash saying that), just a set of circumstances that have led to a poor outcome for all.

PS. Was a response to Swiss' post but didn't quote him directly.
Unless Clough thinks he's a better player, at the moment....
 
It's a shame as i really like his attributes and have followed him closely with a couple of the other youngsters. He will be a good player, no two ways about it, and i wish the lad well in pusuit of first team football whether that be a league higher, lower, or even the same one. Lets hope Done stays fit as he gives us that something different that DDG could've also given us, we're not exactly flush in this department are we?
 



I'd have him out on loan at the first opportunity.
Think he's up his own arse,wrong attitude. Good riddance to the cotton wool kid.
 

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