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[wizadry]

i think you'll find my Praise of Murphy, Basham and Brayford is on record, I am also one of Doyle's biggest champions look at who won that tackle for the Third on Saturday.

Done also has started very well..

shame about Baxter and Mceverly though...,

Basham won the tackle didn't he?

 

[Harry's Game]

Basham won the tackle didn't he?

Doyle wasn't it? It looked like him on Blades player, I'll look again, having no commentary doesn't help.

 

[Silent Blade]

Did Lee Morris get the bad injury at Derby or after he was let go ?

I seem to remember that he broke his foot in a pre-season friendly for us. Not sure if he played a game or two for us in the 1999-2000 season before Jim Smith signed him for £3M

 

[dublin 10 blade]

I'm perplexed as to why anyone should want our club held hostage , by an unproven teenager , Wayne Rooney he ain't ,
our club nurtured him back to health after a very bad injury , he's shown promise , granted , nothing more ,
look to Reedy , Tel , and Che to see youngsters wanting to play for Sheffield United ,
I don't like some of the things my manager does or says , but just get the fuck on with it .
Unlike Harry who gave us years of service , and went with my blessing ,
If DDG wants to go then go .

 

[Highbury_Blade]

No - he's an academy product under the age of 25 so we are entitled to compo regardless of contract expiry.

That's why I find it strange as a lot of league clubs can't/won't spend the money.

Of course the compo rules only apply to English teams I think so we're screwed if he goes outside of here.

Shades of Bosman here. I would expect that to get challenged in the European courts.

 

[moDtheGod]

Three possibilities:

1. DDG is frustrated at the lack of first team opportunities at the Lane and is willing to take a step down to someone like York to get first team football.
2. DDG has no intention of stepping down a division, but is trying to call United's bluff to get an improved contact offer.
3. DDG has offers on the table from a higher level club than United.

I would assess the percentage probabilities of these as follows

1. 45%
2. 54%
3. 1%

Can I have a fiver at 100/1 then?

 

[wizadry]

I'm perplexed as to why anyone should want our club held hostage , by an unproven teenager , Wayne Rooney he ain't ,
our club nurtured him back to health after a very bad injury , he's shown promise , granted , nothing more ,
look to Reedy , Tel , and Che to see youngsters wanting to play for Sheffield United ,
I don't like some of the things my manager does or says , but just get the fuck on with it .
Unlike Harry who gave us years of service , and went with my blessing ,
If DDG wants to go then go .

No reason to be perplexed mate. The thing is, i haven't seen any evidence to say DDG is trying to hold us hostage, what i see, is a player who wants to play first team football and sees his best chance of doing this is by leaving us. Now if this is correct then fine, i wouldn't be happy personally, but this has gone on long enough now.

 

[sitwell]

What will the reaction be when his pre contract agreement with the grunters is revealed ?

 

[wizadry]

What will the reaction be when his pre contract agreement with the grunters is revealed ?

 

[Davie Blade]

Doyle wasn't it? It looked like him on Blades player, I'll look again, having no commentary doesn't help.

going to the match helps

 

[DI36O]

Well now my alias looks dafter than ever. I'll just try to pass it off as ironic.

I think it's bound to be a bit of both with these two. Flair players can often bring their arrogance off the pitch and being looked at by Man Utd and City at age 17 can't help. I do like Clough but we know what he can be like. Do people assume that Butler must be inferior to our other CBs because Clough never gave him a game? Or is Collins automatically a lost cause from the Taarabt school of football personalities?

It's a shame because his record from the academy and the reports I've heard were very positive. You'd expect to see a few opportunities given. For everyone who's made their opinion up regarding his actual ability, here's his entire league and cup career to date:

Sheff Utd
Feb '13 - vs Colchester (L1) - injury time, assisted Kitson goal
Feb '13 - vs Leyton Orient (L1) - 18 mins
----------injured for rest of 2013--------------
Nov '14 - @ Crewe (FAC) - 21 mins
Nov '14 - vs Crewe (FAC) - 9 mins
Jan '15 - @ Preston (FAC) - 78 mins, scored
Feb'15 - vs Preston (FAC) - 10 mins

1 starts (5 sub) - 136 mins, 1 goal, 1 assist

York
Oct-Dec '14, League 2
7 starts (1 sub) - 537 mins 4 goals

I don't think we can conclude that he's useless. Do so many big clubs sniff around a player for this long even after injury? Does Sacchi ring everyone with dual nationality to plead them to declare for Italy? Most of those teammates at Italy under 20 have contracts at top 5 or top 10 clubs in Italy and are active out on loan at second and third tier clubs. It would be more than plausible to me that he might just feel that regular first team football is imperative at this age, at whatever level. He may realise he might have to move abroad for another club to afford him.

Speaking practically though, it was clear this was irreconcilable weeks ago. It's lost potential but not an immediate loss to the team.

 

[Tezza1889]

Why cant we just wish him well and let him get on his way, he's obviously well down the pecking order and wants to play, ok he's a young lad, might have a little attitude, but those are qualites that george best had as a teenager, didn't make george a bad player, just a tough one to handle....

But that's where the similarites don't stack up, he's not the wonderkid some make him out to be, and also he's not really had a chance, were all stuck over what to think of deigo...

All the best young lad, just hope you dont end up with a numb arse like the others who chased the money.... on the other hand, your arse is already pretty numb.... sums it all up really, what you got to lose??

 

[scrap]

I watched Him a lot in the Academy, great player. Injury has held his development back. His problem is in his bio mechanics, trouble is the same thing [injury] could quite possibly happen again. Think there's a lot of frustration there.

 

[RealMcCoy]

Can't help but think that the lad just wants to play in the first team.
Like we all would.
And for whatever reasons, good or bad, that hasn't happened enough for him and doesn't look like happening anytime soon.
Personally, I'd have liked to see him having more opportunity in the first team - and to some extent, don't understand why he wasn't tried more when we had no other strikers available at times.
I know I don't see the training sessions, don't know anything about "attitude", but I think it's wrong to label him as having a bad attitude just because Clough hasn't played him more or doesn't seem to favour him. I don't "trust in Clough" on this decision anymore than on his (Clough's) overall performance record. Clough is no godsend, he makes mistakes. We should also allow Diego the freedom to make a mistake without vilifying him.
I hope Diego goes on to make us regret losing this opportunity. Good luck kid, go show what you can do.

 

[sitwell]

Can't help but think that the lad just wants to play in the first team.
Like we all would.
And for whatever reasons, good or bad, that hasn't happened enough for him and doesn't look like happening anytime soon.
Personally, I'd have liked to see him having more opportunity in the first team - and to some extent, don't understand why he wasn't tried more when we had no other strikers available at times.
I know I don't see the training sessions, don't know anything about "attitude", but I think it's wrong to label him as having a bad attitude just because Clough hasn't played him more or doesn't seem to favour him. I don't "trust in Clough" on this decision anymore than on his (Clough's) overall performance record. Clough is no godsend, he makes mistakes. We should also allow Diego the freedom to make a mistake without vilifying him.
I hope Diego goes on to make us regret losing this opportunity. Good luck kid, go show what you can do.

I will ask again what will people say if he signs for Wendy ? Watch this space.

 

[Groucho Blade]

Just one question...Is he more or less likely to play in Wendy's first team than ours?

 

[Fulwood Blade]

I will ask again what will people say if he signs for Wendy ? Watch this space.

I am led to believe that Brian Deane turned down any advances from the pigs when he signed for Leeds, even though the pigs offered more money to sign him - Deano can keep his cult status.

DDG would simply become a pig. Would find it hard even to wish him good luck and would think it is yet another example of bad advice from advisors. If Bournemouth are interested then go there - Eddie Howe has something extra in his management locker - if the kid is to make it then he needs his head straight, free from family and advisors and coaching the right way. Not said he was coached wrong at United - he is probably right player, right club, wrong time as we are just desperate to get out of this division.

UTB

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Shades of Bosman here. I would expect that to get challenged in the European courts.

Would have expected it to have been challenged by now, rules have been in place for a while.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

I'm perplexed as to why anyone should want our club held hostage , by an unproven teenager , Wayne Rooney he ain't ,
our club nurtured him back to health after a very bad injury , he's shown promise , granted , nothing more ,
look to Reedy , Tel , and Che to see youngsters wanting to play for Sheffield United ,
I don't like some of the things my manager does or says , but just get the fuck on with it .
Unlike Harry who gave us years of service , and went with my blessing ,
If DDG wants to go then go .

Excellent post.

When you see Reed, Kennedy and the likes playing - you can what the chance means to them. When they are out of the team, they talk with purpose, with a level head and determination to make every chance count. When was the last time you heard an interview with one of the youngsters that didn't include them mentioning learning off the senior players?

I'm sorry, but I really don't get the same feeling from DDG.

I accept that this might be different to what other fans expect to see in the youngsters but there should be no easy ride to the first team.

 

[LSF]

I will ask again what will people say if he signs for Wendy ? Watch this space.

To be honest Sitters, I don't give a fuck who he signs for. He's in the past now.

 

[robbiez666]

Sheff Utd
Feb '13 - vs Colchester (L1) - injury time, assisted Kitson goal
Feb '13 - vs Leyton Orient (L1) - 18 mins
----------injured for rest of 2013--------------
Nov '14 - @ Crewe (FAC) - 21 mins
Nov '14 - vs Crewe (FAC) - 9 mins
Jan '15 - @ Preston (FAC) - 78 mins, scored
Feb'15 - vs Preston (FAC) - 10 mins

1 starts (5 sub) - 136 mins, 1 goal, 1 assist

I think this just illustrates what kind of chance this club has given him. I think the Preston game summed it up well. Scored to get us a replay then dropped. He's had injuries but he's never been given the opportunity his talent has deserved.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

I accept that this might be different to what other fans expect to see in the youngsters but there should be no easy ride to the first team.

The above comment sums it up for me - what do "people" want? some sort of fair play Rooney rule that all youngsters get a chance?

Life's about competition - if you are good enough (Reed) then you are old enough.

He is doing what he thinks is best for him - it's a free country and he is exercising his right.

We should wish him all the best - except if he signs for the pigs as sitters seems to suggest is a possibility.

UTB

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Sheff Utd
Feb '13 - vs Colchester (L1) - injury time, assisted Kitson goal
Feb '13 - vs Leyton Orient (L1) - 18 mins
----------injured for rest of 2013--------------
Nov '14 - @ Crewe (FAC) - 21 mins
Nov '14 - vs Crewe (FAC) - 9 mins
Jan '15 - @ Preston (FAC) - 78 mins, scored
Feb'15 - vs Preston (FAC) - 10 mins

1 starts (5 sub) - 136 mins, 1 goal, 1 assist

I think this just illustrates what kind of chance this club has given him. I think the Preston game summed it up well. Scored to get us a replay then dropped. He's had injuries but he's never been given the opportunity his talent has deserved.

You missed 70 innocuous minutes against Walsall in the JPT.

No opportunities? You've listed 7 there. Plus everyday in training. And a loan to York (are they busting a gut to get him back?).

 

[S5Blade]

 

[true99blade]

He's just announced his move to York for the rest of the season via Twitter. Also adding "all I want to do is play football." If that's all he's after then good luck to the lad and no hard feelings. The fact of the matter is he simply isn't good enough to play for us at this moment in time. He's hardly chasing the money from what I can gather. I've seen him plenty of times to conclude that he really won't be missed from a first team football perspective. But I can understand his stance.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

What will the reaction be when his pre contract agreement with the grunters is revealed ?

Well that would be massive progress for the lad.

 

[bartman]

You missed 70 innocuous minutes against Walsall in the JPT.

No opportunities? You've listed 7 there. Plus everyday in training. And a loan to York (are they busting a gut to get him back?).

also Coventry away in the JPT where he played the last 30 minutes

 

[bartman]

Sheff Utd
Feb '13 - vs Colchester (L1) - injury time, assisted Kitson goal
Feb '13 - vs Leyton Orient (L1) - 18 mins
----------injured for rest of 2013--------------
Nov '14 - @ Crewe (FAC) - 21 mins
Nov '14 - vs Crewe (FAC) - 9 mins
Jan '15 - @ Preston (FAC) - 78 mins, scored
Feb'15 - vs Preston (FAC) - 10 mins

1 starts (5 sub) - 136 mins, 1 goal, 1 assist

I think this just illustrates what kind of chance this club has given him. I think the Preston game summed it up well. Scored to get us a replay then dropped. He's had injuries but he's never been given the opportunity his talent has deserved.

In the Preston game he was awful in the first half and improved in the 2nd. He scored and was OK but certainly not a player who looked like he was pushing for a 1st team place. Some fans say he hasn't been given a chance but what we don't know from behind the scenes is whether he has deserved a chance.

He has had a long time to impress,and still can't make the team .. Time for him to re-start his career elsewhere and I hope it works out for him

 

[Bladesway]

I will ask again what will people say if he signs for Wendy ? Watch this space.

You saw what I said in my post about him? I'll refer you to that.

 

[Sharrowblade]

Finding this thread quite sad.

The majority of people on here have never met the lad or his family and let people are making sweeping statements about all kinds of things, when clearly they have no knowledge of contractual agreements between said player and club, manager/player relationship, general attitude , family life or anything else to that effect.

If you don't rate him, that's fine, we all have an opinion on players.

At a club where we love to sing 'he's one of ours' about home grown talent, then constructive comments such as 'tell him to f*** off' is beyond contempt.


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