Outgoing? Diego Di Girolamo

[A19 byf]

Trouble is, you also don't know who everyone on this forum knows at the club ;-)

I've been at the club the last 12 years mate and I would never post anything unless I knew it was true. All this talk about diego thinking he's better then everyone and bigger than utd is rubbish the trouble is the people saying this don't even know the lad all he wants to do is play football nothing more and nothing less.

 

[SwissBlade]

Li

listen pal you have know idea of the things I know and the people I know ant the club and as for not noticing Dimaio being on the bench on Sunday that was the only reason I went ;-)

From reading your posts on this thread, it seems that you don't have an idea of the things that you know...

 

[bartman]

I've been at the club the last 12 years mate and I would never post anything unless I knew it was true. All this talk about diego thinking he's better then everyone and bigger than utd is rubbish the trouble is the people saying this don't even know the lad all he wants to do is play football nothing more and nothing less.

if that is the case, you will know about the reason why a certain manager was going to resign just before the season started (within the last 10 years). Without naming names, would you like to confirm the reason he was going to resign ? (this info was not in the public domain at the time or since)

You appear to think you are the only person who knows players(and staff) at the club.

 

[Bladesway]

I've been at the club the last 12 years mate and I would never post anything unless I knew it was true. All this talk about diego thinking he's better then everyone and bigger than utd is rubbish the trouble is the people saying this don't even know the lad all he wants to do is play football nothing more and nothing less.

I think what people are saying is that he isn't as good as he would like to believe. Unless you can tell me a concrete reason why this assumption is incorrect then I will keep thinking it to be true.

 

[FleaPitBlade]

I think Nigel Clough has proven beyond any doubt that he's not afraid to play the pups and that he has a brilliant record at nurturing young talent. (both here and at Derby)

It therefor stands to reason that any of them that arent playing regularly fall into one of the following catagories;

a) not ready
b) not good enough
c) are being managed carefully*

From what little I've seen of him in the first team, I'd say Diego falls somewhere between a) and b)

*this could be for all manner of reasons. As a test of character, keeping the pressure of them, making sure they dont burn out, keep them hungry - the list is endless

 

[A19 byf]

From reading your posts on this thread, it seems that you don't have an idea of the things that you know...

Hahaha and you know what exactly

 

[Pinchy]

if that is the case, you will know about the reason why a certain manager was going to resign just before the season started (within the last 10 years). Without naming names, would you like to confirm the reason he was going to resign ? (this info was not in the public domain at the time or since)

You appear to think you are the only person who knows players(and staff) at the club.

Blackwell, because he heard I'd hired a hitman?

 

[A19 byf]

if that is the case, you will know about the reason why a certain manager was going to resign just before the season started (within the last 10 years). Without naming names, would you like to confirm the reason he was going to resign ? (this info was not in the public domain at the time or since)

You appear to think you are the only person who knows players(and staff) at the club.

Have I said I'm the only person that knows theses people at point in any post ? NO. is what I'm posting the truth ? Yes. Like i said earlier I wouldn't post unless I knew the truth and facts ;-)

 

[bartman]

Have I said I'm the only person that knows theses people at point in any post ? NO. is what I'm posting the truth ? Yes. Like i said earlier I wouldn't post unless I knew the truth and facts ;-)

You haven't answered my question about the manager.

 

[Pinchy]

Hahaha and you know what exactly

He knows that anyone who attends a match only because a certain kid is on the bench is one of the following:

a) Barmy
b) A Paedo
c) Not a Blade.

You may make more than one selection but your choice will be visible to the public.

 

[FleaPitBlade]

I think Nigel Clough has proven beyond any doubt that he's not afraid to play the pups and that he has a brilliant record at nurturing young talent. (both here and at Derby)

It therefor stands to reason that any of them that arent playing regularly fall into one of the following catagories;

a) not ready
b) not good enough
c) are being managed carefully*

From what little I've seen of him in the first team, I'd say Diego falls somewhere between a) and b)

*this could be for all manner of reasons. As a test of character, keeping the pressure of them, making sure they dont burn out, keep them hungry - the list is endless

Sorry, that should have been a) and c)

 

[SwissBlade]

Hahaha and you know what exactly

The distinct difference is that I'm not claiming to be in the know, I'm merely commenting on the original post.

 

[Bladeloyal]

Play this dimaio lad then we can count on attendances rising by one for the rest of the season !

 

[wizadry]

I think most people on this thread have responded to the comments on the OP, very few of us (if any) on here know the attitude of Diego, but the club clearly want to keep him as they've opened new contract talks with him (it was on the OS before xmas)

Cloughs handling of players like Reed, Kennedy and McNulty in my opinion seems to work. He certainly favours giving them a taste of first team, then giving them a spell out of the team, perhaps to see how they handle it and fight for their place.

With McNulty on Sunday he went mad at him for kicking the ball away and getting booked. Some would say give him a break, others would say he's right to berate him. Clough speaks a lot about discipline and I'd imagine this is something he drills the players on a lot

Edit: Sorry posted too soon

Would any player want to sign a contract extension at a club where he isn't getting a look in and other youngsters are getting chances while time passes him by? No would be my answer mate.

Clough's handling of the players you mention is good if you believe in that way,i believe we need to play our best players no matter how old they are,rest them every now and then or bring them off when we have a lead through playing our best players and playing at a higher tempo from the start.Reed and McNulty fall into this category certainly from what iv'e seen and must start if fit.

Clough resting our best players to see how they handle it is costing us a lot of points imo,this needs rectifying otherwise we'll only just scrape into the playoffs if we're lucky.

Clough was right to berate McNulty on this occasion as he had no need to do it,so yes Clough was right,that would send any manager bonkers.

 

[Foxy]

If A19 byf is who I think it is, he knows Connor.

I really rate Dimaio and he'd have been in the squad more for me, but I don't have the track record of successfully managing young pro's that Mr Clough does. Nor do I see them quite as often.

 

[SwissBlade]

Would any player want to sign a contract extension at a club where he isn't getting a look in and other youngsters are getting chances while time passes him by? No would be my answer mate.

Clough's handling of the players you mention is good if you believe in that way,i believe we need to play our best players no matter how old they are,rest them every now and then or bring them off when we have a lead through playing our best players and playing at a higher tempo from the start.Reed and McNulty fall into this category certainly from what iv'e seen and must start if fit.

Clough resting our best players to see how they handle it is costing us a lot of points imo,this needs rectifying otherwise we'll only just scrape into the playoffs if we're lucky.

Clough was right to berate McNulty on this occasion as he had no need to do it,so yes Clough was right,that would send any manager bonkers.

Clough said it from when we signed McNulty that he was a development player, the problem has been that the established striker, Higdon, has neither been fit nor in any sort of form, plus it looks like Clough also has started to prefer to play Baxter in his natural position of Midfield, so we've had to go with McNulty.

McNulty is certainly starting to look like a very good acquisition and he's also having to perhaps play in ways unfamiliar to him, like up top on his own. In many ways this has probably been a little easier against the better sides like QPR and Southampton as he gets more time and space as well as not getting the physical battering that he'd get in League one games. So it'll certainly build his confidence. He's certainly improving in almost every game which suggests that things are working out for him, but imagine if he'd had a few games with the crowd on his back and instead of fans chanting his name when he left the pitch, he left with his head down. I'd say confidence and desire are just as important as talent in young lads.

So whilst it looks obvious to us now, perhaps its because of the work being done by Cloughs coaching team in bringing these lads through is helping their development.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Would these be the same academy coaches that have brought the best out of Reedy, and the other young 'uns that have been given their chance?
Please tell us what has happened regarding the big bids that were supposed to be coming in for Diego.

I would suggest if anyone is stunting Diego's progress it is the lad himself.

Sorry, I will back Mr Clough's judgement of football ability, over yours 24/7.

professional football is littered with talented players that dont make it i have watched diego at acadamy and under 21 matches and he is one of the most exciting young players i have ever seen and i sincerly hope that he comes through.
But for some to suggest cloughy does,nt like him is absolute rubbish,he maybe has,nt had the chance to make his mark
so far but i trust cloughy to bring him through if diego can find the extra desire needed to succeed as a pro i think he will
i hope so anyway.

 

[wizadry]

Clough said it from when we signed McNulty that he was a development player, the problem has been that the established striker, Higdon, has neither been fit nor in any sort of form, plus it looks like Clough also has started to prefer to play Baxter in his natural position of Midfield, so we've had to go with McNulty.

McNulty is certainly starting to look like a very good acquisition and he's also having to perhaps play in ways unfamiliar to him, like up top on his own. In many ways this has probably been a little easier against the better sides like QPR and Southampton as he gets more time and space as well as not getting the physical battering that he'd get in League one games. So it'll certainly build his confidence. He's certainly improving in almost every game which suggests that things are working out for him, but imagine if he'd had a few games with the crowd on his back and instead of fans chanting his name when he left the pitch, he left with his head down. I'd say confidence and desire are just as important as talent in young lads.

So whilst it looks obvious to us now, perhaps its because of the work being done by Cloughs coaching team in bringing these lads through is helping their development.

Fair enough mate,i'm just as interested as you or anyone else for that matter in the clubs best interests,but i can't help but feel we have underplayed some of our best players this season and it has really held us back.

 

[SwissBlade]

Fair enough mate,i'm just as interested as you or anyone else for that matter in the clubs best interests,but i can't help but feel we have underplayed some of our best players this season and it has really held us back.

I think we struggled to find a group of players that are fit or in form.

 

[finlaytheblade]

I've been at the club the last 12 years mate and I would never post anything unless I knew it was true. All this talk about diego thinking he's better then everyone and bigger than utd is rubbish the trouble is the people saying this don't even know the lad all he wants to do is play football nothing more and nothing less.

if thats diego,s philosophy he will make the most out of loan moves and come back firing and putting pressure on other strikers and cloughy so far that has,nt happened but i look forward to the day when it does its really exciting to see strikers coming through the ranks

 

[Northyorksblade]

If A19 byf does know what he says, because he is within the club, he should keep his gob shut! I never understand people being so indiscreet when they are ITK, unless the info is in the public domain.

 

[wizadry]

I think we struggled to find a group of players that are fit or in form.

I personally think Cloughy has tinkered abit too often trying to find his best xi.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

I thought this was another JL94x4 massive exclusive. How disappointing!

 

[SwissBlade]

I personally think Cloughy has tinkered abit too often trying to find his best xi.

Yeah I wouldn't disagree with that at all. Last season he particularly impressed me by picking a starting 11 and trying to end each game with the same, but also sticking with the same team.

This season, so far, that hasnt been the case through injuries, form or looking to rotate. In many ways the squad is too big for him, but that's also what will help us in the second half of the season

 

[Kenilworth]

I've been at the club the last 12 years mate and I would never post anything unless I knew it was true. All this talk about diego thinking he's better then everyone and bigger than utd is rubbish the trouble is the people saying this don't even know the lad all he wants to do is play football nothing more and nothing less.

I am sure that all Porter and McGinn want to do is play football too as do Reed and McGahey. They all have to work their bollocks off to get into the first team and they will have to show their worth in training or show it whilst on loan somewhere else. Why is Diego such a special case? Sure, it appears the lad has some talent but he's not ripping up any trees at York to warrant an automatic pick in our first XI.

btw - you say that you have been at the club 12 years. You must have sold a few pies in that time then, eh? How many you reckon?

 

[Sothall_Blade]

I think Nigel Clough has proven beyond any doubt that he's not afraid to play the pups and that he has a brilliant record at nurturing young talent. (both here and at Derby)

It therefor stands to reason that any of them that arent playing regularly fall into one of the following catagories;

a) not ready
b) not good enough
c) are being managed carefully*

From what little I've seen of him in the first team, I'd say Diego falls somewhere between a) and c)

*this could be for all manner of reasons. As a test of character, keeping the pressure of them, making sure they dont burn out, keep them hungry - the list is endless

d) plays in a position that doesn't coincide with the current manager's preferred formation and tactics.

I think it's mostly this.
If Diego was an attacking right back or a strong, pacy target man he would have started loads of games by now.
Clough doesn't usually play with a dimunitive number 10 playing just off the main striker.
If he did then Baxter, Scougall and McNulty are probably all ahead of Diego in the queue for that particular role.

Diego can enhance his chances of getting in United's first team regularly by adapting his game to playing wide, or as an attacking midfielder or as a lone front man. This will also improve his all round game and make him a better player.
If he can do that with United everyone will be happy, no one more so than Clough I suspect.

 

[CyrixTheBlade]

As much as it pains me to say. I don't think we'll see much of Diego this year. I have my suspicions that a deal is already pretty much cut and dried. Shame really, I would have liked to have seen a bit more of him over the last couple of years, whether that be a result of his injury or management choices, either way the outcome is the same..

I'll follow his career and who knows, maybe one day he might come back and bag 30 goals a season, put us in the prem and help us win the Champions League (and then I'll wake up)

 

[Darthblade]

professional football is littered with talented players that dont make it i have watched diego at acadamy and under 21 matches and he is one of the most exciting young players i have ever seen and i sincerly hope that he comes through.
But for some to suggest cloughy does,nt like him is absolute rubbish,he maybe has,nt had the chance to make his mark
so far but i trust cloughy to bring him through if diego can find the extra desire needed to succeed as a pro i think he will
i hope so anyway.

I rate Dimao as well and I think he will hopefully mature into a good player, however, he is no better equipped to survive in this crappy "agricultural" Division than Scougal / Reed / Baxter or any of our other small players. They all get bullied off the ball and referees are so crap at this level they wouldn't recognise a foul if it had a label on it !!!
UTB & FTP

 

[A19 byf]

You haven't answered my question about the manager.

What's this top trumps I know more than you do grow up pal I know what I know and you know what you know if you choose to think I'm wrong go to all your contacts within the club and find out yourself.

 

[HolmesfieldBlade]

In all honesty from what Ive seen of Diego he's not all that. Would be surprised if Bournemouth came in for him to be honest.

He should be loaned to Chesterfield for the remainder of the season...